Winner of Ward-Kovalev rank higher than Calzaghe?

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He landed less than half Joe did he took three rounds on one card, give Joe some fückin credit man. Larry I like you and I love debating boxing with you but you gotta accept Joe was great that night and BHOP did not have an answer. I'm not discussing boxing with you no more if you're not gonna give credit where I feel it's due. Ok maybe white washing was over zealous but BHOP was far from taking the win, he was competitive and Calzaghe couldn't switch off for a moment. In all that response to you I typed BHOP looked for a way out, I don't even like writing stuff like that about someone I admire and support/ed hell BHOP is a master craftsman takes on all comers, an absolute lock for ATG just defeated by a superior boxer on the night. Lets draw a line here. Yea Hopkins did look for a way out, he could not deal with the pace Joe set..i never argued that at all..all i said is that it wasnt a whitewash

Do you guys think the winner should be ranked higher ATG than Joe Calzaghe? Also could Prime Calzaghe hang with either? The straight answer is no. Edit: to question one. Could they hang with Calzaghe? Most definitely. Kovalev has the power to trouble him and Ward has the style but I would not be comfortably predicting either of them to beat him.

I agree Hopkins lost..but it was no whitewash He landed less than half Joe did he took three rounds on one card, give Joe some fückin credit man. Larry I like you and I love debating boxing with you but you gotta accept Joe was great that night and BHOP did not have an answer. I'm not discussing boxing with you no more if you're not gonna give credit where I feel it's due. Ok maybe white washing was over zealous but BHOP was far from taking the win, he was competitive and Calzaghe couldn't switch off for a moment. In all that response to you I typed BHOP looked for a way out, I don't even like writing stuff like that about someone I admire and support/ed hell BHOP is a master craftsman takes on all comers, an absolute lock for ATG just defeated by a superior boxer on the night. Lets draw a line here.

Hopkins was effectively out worked from start to finish, looked for ways out more than once like he did when he quit versus Dawson, the referee was strong and saw throygh his bs, if you could be strong too Larry and not swayed by your racial bias you'd have come to accept this years ago. Calzaghe had Hopkins effectively trying to get him disqualified, that's a b1tch move. Don't act like a BHOP here on NSB, I'll smell and rat you out. I agree Hopkins lost..but it was no whitewash

I have both ahead of Calzaghe now. Seriously, on what basis ? Kovalev would be out worked systematically by Calzaghe, Kovalev looked like shyt versus Chilemba, Joe is ten times the boxer Chilemba is or was. Ward vs Calzaghe would be an intriguing affair, but Joe picked Kessler apart without any controversy or cheating whatsoever, that win will always be a blemish on Ward's career. I fail to see a win on Ward's ledger that ranks as high as Calzaghe's over BHOP. The Welshman has an exceptionally strong resume, not that Ward does not but up against each others their is a notable gulf in talent faced and crucially at which stage. If Ward beats Krusher and Stevenson I'll review my stance.

those were not the scorecards..lol they were 116-111...114-113(for Hopkins) and 115-112 Hopkins was effectively out worked from start to finish, looked for ways out more than once like he did when he quit versus Dawson, the referee was strong and saw throygh his bs, if you could be strong too Larry and not swayed by your racial bias you'd have come to accept this years ago. Calzaghe had Hopkins effectively trying to get him disqualified, that's a b1tch move. Don't act like a BHOP here on NSB, I'll smell and rat you out.

those were not the scorecards..lol they were 116-111...114-113(for Hopkins) and 115-112 I meant 116-111 with a point deduction, a point deducted in a round Hopkins failed to win ! Larry don't attempt to act all sensitive with me, you get no easy ride.

The one where Calzaghe landed double the amount Hopkins did and the one where Hopkins kept acting attempting to have his opponent docked several times because he knew he couldn't beat him legitimately. The scores were something like 117-111, 9-3 read and weep puppy dog. those were not the scorecards..lol they were 116-111...114-113(for Hopkins) and 115-112

I have both ahead of Calzaghe now.

Kovalev is already higher than Calzaghe, coWard is not even top 100 so I don't know what you're on about. He is getting flattened on Saturday night and he knows it already: INSIDE SOURCE says: "WARD told his team, he is scared and considering pulling out of fight", just about 72 hours away from the fight.— 24/7 Boxing �� (@247boxingnews) November 16, 2016 SOURCES tell Fox: "NOBODY recognized Ward at arrival. MGM asked guests to stay in lobby for his entrance and had to explain who he was."— 24/7 Boxing 🌐 (@247boxingnews) November 16, 2016 :lol1:

you love trying to discredit this mans wins damn.... Kessler-champ Abraham-top 10 contender Rodriguez-top 10 contender Dawson-champ Barrera-top 10 contender Froch-champ and these are facts no matter how you try to twist them..these are certified facts Please read AGAIN the list of fighters you put up you will be embarrassed to read it out loud next to Calzaghe , ****ing Barrera and Rodriguez on your list for a ATG run ? is this a joke ? Ward NEEDS the Kovalev win to go into Cal timezone , god damn Barrera ..... still can't believe you wrote it down...... GOD DAMN BARRERA ..... Tell me how many HOF/ATG Ward has beaten ? you trying to tarnish every single win by Joe is a disgrace , you know better then anyone that ANY win can be dismantled as you fight the *******s of the world daily , give the man the HUGH credit he deserves instead of sounding like a little insecure ***** , Joe took the souls of some of the US ATG`s , it happened those are the certified facts , DEAL WITH IT.

Calzaghe is above Ward it's not even debatable. He beat an undefeated Kessler no controversy, if anyone tells you Ward's second best win over Froch is a better achievement than Calzaghe white washing Hopkins they have an agenda. Jones, Lacy are as good wins if not better than Abraham and Rodriguez. Does a win over Krusher move him alongside Joe or above him ? No, Calzaghe would have schooled Kovalev. Calzaghe white washed Hopkins!? :lol1::lol1::lol1:

I got joe higher than floyd and ward right now. A ward win means hes going in the right direction could possibly one up floyds legacy A kov wins means hes a few wins removed from joes legacy. :lol1::lol1::lol1::lol1:

Calzaghe: Reid: very good win. Veit x2: good wins Eubank: great win Kessler: great win Lacy: great win Sheika: good win Mitchell: good win Brewer: good win Bika: good win Hopkins: great win Jones: good win Woodhall: good win Vs Ward: Kessler: should have been DQ'd so doesn't count. Dawson: drained like hell so meant nothing Abraham: coming off 2 defeats, one very bad against Froch, but still good win. Bika: had been out for 18 months, but still good win. Froch: great win Anyone who thinks Ward is equal or has a better resume needs to go and see a psychologist immediately. You are damaged goods and seriously creepy. unranked eubank who had just lost twice and never won again is a great win....also you are wrong. lacy is a super duper great win.

no. calzaghe will still be more undefeated-er

you said he was not afraid to travel=LIE!!! Is his resume better then Wards=NO!!! In 46 fights did he beat even 6 top 10 contenders=NO!!!! so please explain how Ward beating Kovalev would not make him greater then Joe when Ward in the Super 6 alone beat more top contenders then Joe did in his entire damn career Not that I necessarily disagree with Ward or possibly Kov being ranked above him after a big win this weekend, but I'm pretty sure he beat more than 6 top 10 contenders. Hopkins, Kessler, Bika, Mitchell, Lacy, Brewer, Eubank, Woodhall, Reid were all champions and then you've got contenders like Sheika, Veit, etc. Not a great resume by any means, but not quite as poor as some are making it out to be. Ward still won't have the numbers in all, but he can certainly get there and would be getting close with a win over Kov...he just doesn't have all the surrounding fluff that Calzaghe has on his. Kessler Froch Abraham Dawson Bika Anyway, don't really care that much either way. I just wanna see a cracking fight this weekend! :boxing:

??? huh..what fight did you watch? The one where Calzaghe landed double the amount Hopkins did and the one where Hopkins kept acting attempting to have his opponent docked several times because he knew he couldn't beat him legitimately. The scores were something like 117-111, 9-3 read and weep puppy dog.

you do realize that Joe in all his defenses only fought maybe 3 top 10 contenders right? Larry, that's a downright lie. Outside of Bhop, Kessler, Lacy, Eubank Reid, Sheika, Woodhall, Brewer, Veit, Mitchell, Bika were all top 10 super middleweights at the time Joe fought them. You can argue about their quality (especially Veit) but you're statement is wrong. To answer the thread the winner IMO would rank higher than Calzaghe.

I already rate Ward over Calzaghe. Who the fuk has calzgahe beaten?