Does the Middleweight division need a 'Hope'? Are there any?

Updated list @ 8th August: #7 ranked Sergiy Derevyanchenko, 10-0 (8 KO) #18 ranked Luis Arias, 18-0 (9 KO) USBA #21 ranked Azizbek Abdugofurov, 6-0 (4 KO) WBC Asian Boxing Council #22 ranked Kamil Szeremeta, 16-0 (2 KO) #29 ranked Jason Quigley, 13-0 (10 KO) NABF #37 ranked Yamaguchi Falcao, 13-0 (6 KO) #38 ranked Walter Kautondokwa, 15-0 (14 KO) IBF Continental Africa and WBO Africa #41 ranked Esquiva Falcao, 18-0 (12 KO) #58 ranked Steve Rolls, 16-0 (9 KO) #61 ranked David Toussaint, 11-0 (8 KO) #79 ranked Magomed Madiev, 9-0 (4 KO) #87 ranked Artur Osipov, 11-0 (7 KO) Russia #95 ranked Ibrahim Guemues, 13-0 (13 KO) #101 ranked Malcolm McAllister, 9-0 (8 KO) #105 ranked Cesar Nunez, 12-0 (8 KO) #109 ranked Bakhram Murtazaliev, 9-0 (7 KO) #111 ranked Patrick Wojcicki, 9-0 (4 KO) #115 ranked Vaughn Alexander, 10-0 (7 KO) #126 ranked Winfred Harris Jr., 14-0 (8 KO) UBF All America #127 ranked Mark Lucas, 9-0 (3 KO) interim PABA #130 ranked Alex Hughes, 10-0 (4 KO) #139 ranked Artem Chebotarev, 3-0 (3 KO) #144 ranked Connor Law, 10-0 (2 KO) #155 ranked Meiirim Nursultanov, 3-0 (2 KO) #165 ranked Arlind Sulejmani, 10-0 (4 KO) #166 ranked Quatavious Cash, 10-0 (7 KO) #180 ranked Jack Flatley, 9-0 (2 KO) #181 ranked Luka Pupek, 11-0 (6 KO) WBC Mediterranean #191 ranked Mario Jassmann, 11-0 (9 KO) German International #192 ranked Kazuto Takesako, 6-0 (6 KO) #193 ranked Vincenzo Gualtieri, 8-0 (3 KO) #201 ranked Quilisto Madera, 6-0 (3 KO) #203 ranked Rachid Achoui, 8-0 (2 KO) #211 ranked Bilel Jkitou, 6-0 (2 KO) #219 ranked Tom Stokes, 9-0 (1 KO) #222 ranked Felix Cash, 5-0 (3 KO) #230 ranked Gutram Ngoya, 10-0 (6 KO) Tanzanian PBC #299 ranked Zeynel Elbir, 9-0 (8 KO) #310 ranked Kalvin Henderson, 7-0 (4 KO) #380 ranked Ernesto Olvera, 7-0 (2 KO) #387 ranked Sandro Reinhardt, 8-0 (7 KO) #419 ranked Miguel Dumas, 9-0 (6 KO) #485 ranked Magdiel Cotto, 7-0 (6 KO) Notable exits Maciej Sulecki, Jaime Munguia and David Papot moved to Super Welterweight Rob Brant moved to Super Middleweight Reece Cartwright got flattened by a tomato can

An updated list: #6 ranked Sergiy Derevyanchenko, 10-0 (8 KO) #8 ranked Maciej Sulecki, 25-0 (8 KO) #17 ranked Luis Arias, 18-0 (9 KO) USBA #21 ranked Rob Brant, 22-0 (15 KO) WBA-NABA #22 ranked Azizbek Abdugofurov, 6-0 (4 KO) WBC Asian Boxing Council #23 ranked Kamil Szeremeta, 16-0 (2 KO) #25 ranked Jaime Munguia, 24-0 (20 KO) #32 ranked Jason Quigley, 13-0 (10 KO) NABF #40 ranked Yamaguchi Falcao, 13-0 (6 KO) #41 ranked Walter Kautondokwa, 15-0 (14 KO) IBF Continental Africa and WBO Africa #51 ranked Esquiva Falcao, 17-0 (12 KO) #57 ranked Reece Cartwright, 17-0 (10 KO) IBF Youth #60 ranked Steve Rolls, 16-0 (9 KO) NABF Junior #68 ranked David Toussaint, 11-0 (8 KO) #91 ranked Artur Osipov, 11-0 (7 KO) Russia #93 ranked David Papot, 19-0 (3 KO) WBA Continental #102 ranked Malcolm McAllister, 9-0 (8 KO) #105 ranked Ibrahim Guemues, 12-0 (12 KO) #108 ranked Bakhram Murtazaliev, 9-0 (7 KO) #110 ranked Cesar Nunez, 11-0 (8 KO) #114 ranked Vaughn Alexander, 10-0 (7 KO) #118 ranked Patrick Wojcicki, 8-0 (4 KO) #126 ranked Winfred Harris Jr., 14-0 (8 KO) UBF All America #141 ranked Connor Law, 10-0 (2 KO) #152 ranked Magomed Madiev, 8-0 (3 KO) #165 ranked Mark Lucas, 8-0 (3 KO) interim PABA #166 ranked Quatavious Cash, 10-0 (7 KO) #168 ranked Arlind Sulejmani, 9-0 (3 KO) #178 ranked Luka Pupek, 11-0 (6 KO) WBC Mediterranean #187 ranked Mario Jassmann, 11-0 (9 KO) German International #188 ranked Kazuto Takesako, 6-0 (6 KO) #189 ranked Vincenzo Gualtieri, 8-0 (3 KO) #194 ranked Quilisto Madera, 6-0 (3 KO) #196 ranked Rachid Achoui, 8-0 (2 KO) #197 ranked Jack Flatley, 8-0 (2 KO) #205 ranked Bilel Jkitou, 6-0 (2 KO) #214 ranked Tom Stokes, 9-0 (1 KO) #215 ranked Felix Cash, 5-0 (3 KO) #222 ranked Gutram Ngoya, 10-0 (6 KO) Tanzanian PBC #295 ranked Zeynel Elbir, 9-0 (8 KO) #305 ranked Stevie Weimer, 12-0 (3 KO) #370 ranked Kalvin Henderson, 6-0 (3 KO) #382 ranked Ernesto Olvera, 6-0 (2 KO) #384 ranked Sandro Reinhardt, 8-0 (7 KO) #412 ranked Miguel Dumas, 9-0 (6 KO) #485 ranked Magdiel Cotto, 7-0 (6 KO) Notable exits Ryota Murata 'lost' to Hassan N'Dam N'Jikam Tommy Langford got splatted by Avtandil Khurtsidze Mark DeLuca moved down to Super Welterweight

An updated list from the second post: #5 ranked Sergiy Derevyanchenko, 10-0 (8 KO) #7 ranked Maciej Sulecki, 23-0 (8 KO) #16 ranked Ryota Murata, 12-0 (9 KO) #19 ranked Rob Brant, 22-0 (15 KO) WBA-NABA #24 ranked Tommy Langford, 18-0 (6 KO) BBBofC British and Commonwealth #21 ranked Kamil Szeremeta, 15-0 (2 KO) #32 ranked Terrell Gausha, 20-0 (9 KO) #38 ranked Luis Arias, 16-0 (8 KO) USBA and WBC United States (USNBC) Silver #39 ranked Jason Quigley, 12-0 (10 KO) #41 ranked Yamaguchi Falcao, 12-0 (6 KO) #46 ranked Esquiva Falcao, 17-0 (12 KO) #47 ranked Azizbek Abdugofurov, 5-0 (4 KO) WBC Asian Boxing Council #53 ranked David Toussaint, 10-0 (8 KO) #67 ranked Walter Kautondokwa, 13-0 (12 KO) #70 ranked Mark DeLuca, 17-0 (11 KO) #74 ranked Reece Cartwright, 16-0 (9 KO) IBF Youth #76 ranked Catalin Paraschiveanu, 14-0 (4 KO) #77 ranked Steve Rolls, 15-0 (9 KO) NABF Junior #78 ranked Alan Emmanuel Castano, 12-0 (7 KO) #92 ranked Artur Osipov, 11-0 (7 KO) Russia #95 ranked Marcus Morrison, 14-0 (10 KO) WBC International Silver #114 ranked Malcolm McAllister, 8-0 (8 KO) #116 ranked Ibrahim Guemues, 10-0 (10 KO) #120 ranked Bakhram Murtazaliev, 8-0 (6 KO) #132 ranked Norbert Harcsa, 8-0 (1 KO) #133 ranked Cesar Nunez, 10-0 (7 KO) #138 ranked Jama Saidi, 9-0 (4 KO) #141 ranked Jose Gomez, 10-0 (4 KO) #147 ranked Patrick Wojcicki, 6-0 (4 KO) #148 ranked Magomed Madiev, 8-0 (3 KO) #158 ranked Mark Lucas, 8-0 (3 KO) interim PABA #169 ranked Arlind Sulejmani, 8-0 (3 KO) #178 ranked Sam Hogan, 11-0 (4 KO) #187 ranked Sofiane Cherfioui, 23-0 (15 KO) #194 ranked Connor Law, 9-0 (2 KO) #197 ranked Quilisto Madera, 6-0 (3 KO) #201 ranked Kazuto Takesako, 5-0 (5 KO) #209 ranked Luka Pupek, 10-0 (5 KO) WBC Mediterranean #211 ranked Vincenzo Gualtieri, 7-0 (3 KO) #213 ranked Quatavious Cash, 9-0 (6 KO) #217 ranked Mario Jassmann, 9-0 (7 KO) German International #220 ranked Rachid Achoui, 7-0 (2 KO) #222 ranked Felix Cash, 5-0 (3 KO) #229 ranked Isaac Tadeo, 8-0 (4 KO) #233 ranked Miguel Angel Suarez, 14-0 (9 KO) #244 ranked Tom Stokes, 8-0 (0 KO) #248 ranked Jack Flatley, 7-0 (2 KO) #252 ranked Bilel Jkitou, 5-0 (2 KO) #269 ranked Adam Harper, 7-0 (0 KO) #276 ranked Gift Cole Chiori, 13-0 (10 KO) #277 ranked Vaughn Alexander, 7-0 (5 KO) #287 ranked Ryan Kelly, 8-0 (3 KO) #288 ranked Gutram Ngoya, 7-0 (3 KO) #310 ranked Stevie Weimer, 12-0 (3 KO) #328 ranked Zeynel Elbir, 8-0 (8 KO) #373 ranked Sandro Reinhardt, 8-0 (7 KO) #463 ranked Miguel Dumas, 7-0 (5 KO) #469 ranked Magdiel Cotto, 7-0 (6 KO) #473 ranked Ernesto Olvera, 5-0 (2 KO) #479 ranked Kalvin Henderson, 5-0 (3 KO) Notable exits Kemahl Russell got slapped about by contender Sergiy Derevyanchenko Tey Lynn Jones, KO'd by Eubank, Jr. in sparring has now been KO'd in the pros Dan Breeze, 10-0 as a pro, has retired to become a bare-knuckle fighter

Theres quite a few good ones

GGG refuses to move up hahaha... disgusting. Instead of asking the girls to fight him... no, GGG should move up. Sad.

The real problem for middleweight is that 154 is filled with guys that who no one outside of hardcore fans cares about. Jermall made a statement against J-Rock but he's one of the only guys in that division who has done so. Trout, Vanes, Lara etc no one really cares. Lara had buzz up until that Canelo fight, but he put an end to that himself. I'm not saying that there are no interesting fights for Golovkin, but there aren't many that people are going to get excited about.

Jersey Boy still fighting? he's looked terrible every time he stepped up a level in opposition. I hope Quigley doesn't kill the dude. He could make Quigley look great, but then again you never know with these amateur stars. A lot of them prove to be paper tigers when they get into tough fights in the pros, so maybe Quigley will have to show something. Maybe.

Well. We have: A fearsome Kazakh champion who refuses to move up despite there being nobody to challenge him. A British champion who won't fight anybody. An American champion who won't fight anybody. A Mexican cashcow who won't fight anybody. NO, you have GGG and then these other b****es who refuse to fight him. Talmbout "I cant fight at 160, but I can do 164.5 doe", losing pens and the other having the WBO belt hostage and waiting for Canelo to give him his biggest paycheck so he can retire.

Jason Quigley is fighting Glen Tapia for the NABF title (I think) at the end of March. On that Golden Boy ESPN card. Not exactly a step-up fight but Tapia will ask some question of Quigley who is still very green. Jacobs really is the only guy around to threaten Golovkin right now, as he's the only man who has separated himself from the crowd of contenders. If Golovkin does beat him, and in particular if he beats him easily, then it really will just be 'Golovkin & the rest' at middleweight. Jersey Boy still fighting? he's looked terrible every time he stepped up a level in opposition. I hope Quigley doesn't kill the dude.

Derevyanchenko looks like a solid contender. Probably not good enough to beat a prime Golovkin, but I'd give him a fair shot against Saunders and Jacobs. He needs to step it up this year. I'd like to see him attempt to avenge his gymmate, Khytrov, against Aleem

When's Jermall Charlo's next fight? He's 160 now.

Jason Quigley is fighting Glen Tapia for the NABF title (I think) at the end of March. On that Golden Boy ESPN card. Not exactly a step-up fight but Tapia will ask some question of Quigley who is still very green. Jacobs really is the only guy around to threaten Golovkin right now, as he's the only man who has separated himself from the crowd of contenders. If Golovkin does beat him, and in particular if he beats him easily, then it really will just be 'Golovkin & the rest' at middleweight.

We need Arlen Lopez to defect from Cuba and turn pro. He is the complete fighter. He'd probably be ready for a title shot within two years of making the switch In the nearer future, I'd say that the junior middles are your best bet. Andrade, Charlo, Lubin, Hurd and of course Canelo

An updated list from the first post: #6 ranked Sergiy Derevyanchenko, 9-0 (7 KO) #8 ranked Maciej Sulecki, 23-0 (8 KO) #21 ranked Ryota Murata, 11-0 (8 KO) #23 ranked Rob Brant, 22-0 (15 KO) WBA-NABA #24 ranked Tommy Langford, 18-0 (6 KO) BBBofC British and Commonwealth #25 ranked Kamil Szeremeta, 14-0 (2 KO) #27 ranked Terrell Gausha, 19-0 (9 KO) #34 ranked Jason Quigley, 12-0 (10 KO) #41 ranked Yamaguchi Falcao, 12-0 (6 KO) #46 ranked Esquiva Falcao, 16-0 (12 KO) #51 ranked Luis Arias, 16-0 (8 KO) USBA and WBC United States (USNBC) Silver #55 ranked David Toussaint, 10-0 (8 KO) #58 ranked Walter Kautondokwa, 13-0 (12 KO) #66 ranked Alan Emmanuel Castano, 12-0 (7 KO) #72 ranked Reece Cartwright, 15-0 (8 KO) IBF Youth #73 ranked Mark DeLuca, 17-0 (11 KO) #76 ranked Steve Rolls, 15-0 (9 KO) NABF Junior #82 ranked Marcus Morrison, 14-0 (10 KO) WBC International Silver #97 ranked Artur Osipov, 10-0 (6 KO) Russia #99 ranked Kemahl Russell, 10-0 (8 KO) Jamaican #110 ranked Malcolm McAllister, 8-0 (8 KO) #116 ranked Ibrahim Guemues, 10-0 (10 KO) #119 ranked Bakhram Murtazaliev, 8-0 (6 KO) #126 ranked Norbert Harcsa, 7-0 (1 KO) #130 ranked Jose Gomez, 10-0 (4 KO) #138 ranked Jama Saidi, 9-0 (4 KO) #144 ranked Patrick Wojcicki, 6-0 (4 KO) #158 ranked Grant Dennis, 7-0 (1 KO) BBBofC Southern Area #160 ranked Arlind Sulejmani, 8-0 (3 KO) #165 ranked Connor Law, 9-0 (2 KO) #171 ranked Cesar Nunez, 8-0 (6 KO) #180 ranked Mark Lucas, 7-0 (3 KO) interim PABA #183 ranked Kazuto Takesako, 5-0 (5 KO) #191 ranked Sam Hogan, 11-0 (4 KO) #201 ranked Vincenzo Gualtieri, 7-0 (3 KO) German International #205 ranked Rachid Achoui, 7-0 (2 KO) #214 ranked Isaac Tadeo, 8-0 (4 KO) #223 ranked Miguel Angel Suarez, 14-0 (9 KO) #224 ranked Mario Jassmann, 8-0 (7 KO) #228 ranked Bilel Jkitou, 5-0 (2 KO) #244 ranked Dan Breeze, 10-0 (0 KO) #273 ranked Stevie Weimer, 12-0 (3 KO) #274 ranked Jack Flatley, 6-0 (2 KO) #287 ranked Gift Cole Chiori, 13-0 (10 KO) #288 ranked Bobby Bryant, 16-0 (9 KO) #325 ranked Angel Salomon, 13-0 (12 KO) #336 ranked Zeynel Elbir, 8-0 (8 KO) #339 ranked Tey Lynn Jones, 5-0 (1 KO) #372 ranked Yernar Yeshenov, 5-0 (4 KO) WBC Youth Intercontinental #381 ranked Max Lovell, 5-0 (0 KO) #413 ranked Sandro Reinhardt, 7-0 (6 KO) A couple of the 'Hopes' lost and many moved up or down in weight.

GGG is there. Anyone looking to be the man in the division has to dethrone him.

Surely there must be somebody who can save us. Could they be on this list? Or might they come from 168 or 154? #8 ranked Maciej Sulecki, 23-0 (8 KO) Republic of Poland #11 ranked Sergiy Derevyanchenko, 9-0 (7 KO) #12 ranked Ievgen Khytrov, 14-0 (12 KO) NABF #15 ranked Ryota Murata, 11-0 (8 KO) #16 ranked Dwight Ritchie, 14-0 (1 KO) OPBF #19 ranked Tommy Langford, 17-0 (6 KO) Commonwealth and WBO Inter-Continental #21 ranked Kamil Szeremeta, 14-0 (2 KO) #22 ranked Rob Brant, 21-0 (14 KO) WBA-NABA #25 ranked Terrell Gausha, 19-0 (9 KO) #34 ranked Yamaguchi Falcao, 11-0 (5 KO) WBC Latino #38 ranked Jason Quigley, 11-0 (9 KO) #42 ranked Walter Kautondokwa, 13-0 (12 KO) WBO Africa #54 ranked Esquiva Falcao, 15-0 (12 KO) #62 ranked Artur Osipov, 10-0 (6 KO) Russia #64 ranked David Toussaint, 10-0 (8 KO) #67 ranked Luis Arias, 16-0 (8 KO) USBA and WBC United States (USNBC) Silver #68 ranked Mark DeLuca, 16-0 (10 KO) #75 ranked Kemahl Russell, 10-0 (8 KO) Jamaican #80 ranked Marcus Morrison, 13-0 (10 KO) WBC International Silver #86 ranked Rashidi Ellis, 16-0 (11 KO) #107 ranked Bo Gibbs, Jr., 18-0 (8 KO) USA Oklahoma State #110 ranked Malcolm McAllister, 8-0 (8 KO) #111 ranked Steve Rolls, 14-0 (8 KO) NABF Junior #126 ranked Alan Emmanuel Castano, 11-0 (7 KO) #133 ranked Ibrahim Guemues, 10-0 (10 KO) #151 ranked Reece Cartwright, 14-0 (7 KO) IBF Youth #194 ranked Grant Dennis, 7-0 (1 KO) BBBofC Southern Area #201 ranked Craig Richards, 6-0 (2 KO) #204 ranked Jama Saidi, 9-0 (4 KO) #208 ranked Norbert Harcsa, 7-0 (1 KO) #212 ranked Arlind Sulejmani, 8-0 (3 KO) #218 ranked Gael Haros, 6-0 (4 KO) #227 ranked Jose Gomez, 10-0 (4 KO) #233 ranked Sam Hogan, 11-0 (4 KO) #248 ranked Jonathan Wilson Sanchez, 10-0 (2 KO) #250 ranked Connor Law, 9-0 (2 KO) #255 ranked Mark Lucas, 7-0 (3 KO) interim PABA #264 ranked Patrick Wojcicki, 6-0 (4 KO) #271 ranked Rachid Achoui, 6-0 (2 KO) #285 ranked Kazuto Takesako, 5-0 (5 KO) #291 ranked Gift Cole Chiori, 13-0 (10 KO) #316 ranked Angel Salomon, 12-0 (11 KO) #328 ranked Bakhram Murtazaliev, 6-0 (4 KO) #331 ranked Mario Jassmann, 8-0 (7 KO) #333 ranked Renato Oliveira, 9-0 (2 KO) #335 ranked Bilel Jiktou, 5-0 (2 KO) #340 ranked Vincenzo Gualtieri, 7-0 (3 KO) German International #341 ranked Dan Breeze, 10-0 (0 KO) #348 ranked Kieran Smith, 7-0 (3 KO) #351 ranked Lendrush Akopyan, 5-0 (3 KO) #354 ranked Nathan Wheatley, 5-0 (0 KO) #361 ranked Max Lovell, 5-0 (0 KO) #362 ranked Tey Lynn Jones, 5-0 (1 KO) #372 ranked Miguel Angel Suarez, 14-0 (9 KO) #374 ranked Bobby Bryant, 16-0 (9 KO) #379 ranked Genaro Ortiz, 8-0 (4 KO) #385 ranked Stevie Weimer, 12-0 (3 KO) #395 ranked Cesar Nunez, 7-0 (5 KO) #396 ranked Yernar Yeshenov, 5-0 (4 KO) WBC Youth Intercontinental #406 ranked Jack Flatley, 6-0 (2 KO) #417 ranked Isaac Tadeo, 8-0 (4 KO) #485 ranked Sandro Reinhardt, 6-0 (5 KO) #488 ranked Zeynel Elbir, 8-0 (8 KO) I shall be doing my best to keep track of all on this list, and any other 'Hope's who enter the top 500. I think we're waiting for guys like Rob Brant and Derevyachenko. Don't sleep on guys like Erickson Lubin, who's at 154 now, but I think is like 6ft tall.

MW doesn't need a hope, it just needs fighters to start fighting each other. It's f*cking absurd how no one besides Golovkin wants to fight anyone, and Golovkin is left with nothing because no one else wants to fight anyone. Welp, you just said everything I was about to

No one in the MW division beating Golovkin. He's going to have to move up to get any real competition.

Sergiy Derevyanchenko, Ievgen Khytrov and the brazilian Falcao brothers are the "hope" if you mean those with potentional to beat Golovkin in the coming years, also the guys from 154: Jarrett Hurd, Charlo Twins, JRock, Canelo etc are all big 154lbs and will most likely move up in a not too distant future, those are right now imo the biggest "threats" to Golovkins reign, no need to go looking for 168lbers, he got options soon

MW doesn't need a hope, it just needs fighters to start fighting each other. It's f*cking absurd how no one besides Golovkin wants to fight anyone, and Golovkin is left with nothing because no one else wants to fight anyone.