Three times Golovkin let himself be hit in the face

Whats embarrassing is that you don't understand that all boxing isn't slip and counter. There is such thing as take one to give one. The most recent famous example of this is Nonito Donaire during his meteoric rise. He would leave himself open for the right hand, and even let you hit him with it enough to get you confident throwing it so he could start to hook over the top of it. Its a tactic that a lot of heavy handed fighters have to learn to use, because if a guy is getting countered every time he fires a shot, eventually he is going to stop throwing, and you are not going to have openings for your own shots. (See Rigondeaux) Here is an example of Donaire letting Montiel hit him with a right hand to create an opening for his left hook. http://stream1.gifsoup.com/view6/2024437/donaire-montiel-o.gif Here is an example of GGG doing it. https://49.media.tumblr.com/5ae4071b962684479f1ac696aad0c49a/tumblr_nohnps9MgW1u2ragso1_500.gif If you remember this knockdown, he pawed at Monroe for a while waiting to bait a 1-2 out of him. Why? When Monroe is throwing a straight left, he is turning into the left hook, and can't take any steam off of it. GGG went in committed to taking the straight left to get in his left hook. Now to take those two strategic examples, and apply it to why sometimes fighter will let themselves get hit with good shots. Its mental. If you let your opponent hit you with their hardest shot, and it doesn't faze you, especially if they have other tools to fall back on, the will abandon the idea of trying to hurt you, they are going to start to meter their power, and start trying to outbox you. This means that when you set up punches like in the examples I gave, you can create more opportunities for yourself, and commit to giving one to take one more often because now your opponent is not putting as much mustard on their punches so there is much less risk. Its the kind of nuance of the sport, you have to learn through experience, its not something that you can really pick up just from watching. Obviously it's not the right strategy for every fighter. But it does work, it does take skill. There are even fighter light Marco Antonio Barrera, who do things like taking the right hand to drop a left to the body, but turning his head with the shot to take off the sting. Something that Freddy Roach teaches. Head rolling in general is often neglected by the casual observer because it looks from the outside like you are getting hit with a big shot that spun your head around. There are notable examples of it being seen as part of rote training. Jorge Linares vs Antonio Demarco for example. Even the commentators were questioning why Linares was turning his head after throwing combinations without anything coming back in return. Its a clear example of a habit developed during training. There was something they saw in demarco and wanted to avoid, and trained to turn with the expected counter after throwing. Its a different variation of letting a fighter hit you. By turning your head instead of slipping or blocking you can continue trading and get the better of an exchange. It can be seen in usage frequently by Marco Antonio Barrera and Israel Vazquez. Don't have time for the novel but what we're seeing from Golovkin isn't just give and take. If you read my other posts in here you'll see I already beat you to the "take one to give a better one" subject and commented that the punches Golovkin eats are often of little consequence because he's measuring and moving himself into position to deliver better shots. None of that negates what I said.

I honestly feel embarrassed. It saddens me when the people I like chatting about boxing with turn out to be so insecure and delusional that they pretend their favorite boxer is catching clean shots on purpose. No boxer is perfect. They ALL have flaws. Stuff like this is cringe-inducing. Whats embarrassing is that you don't understand that all boxing isn't slip and counter. There is such thing as take one to give one. The most recent famous example of this is Nonito Donaire during his meteoric rise. He would leave himself open for the right hand, and even let you hit him with it enough to get you confident throwing it so he could start to hook over the top of it. Its a tactic that a lot of heavy handed fighters have to learn to use, because if a guy is getting countered every time he fires a shot, eventually he is going to stop throwing, and you are not going to have openings for your own shots. (See Rigondeaux) Here is an example of Donaire letting Montiel hit him with a right hand to create an opening for his left hook. http://stream1.gifsoup.com/view6/2024437/donaire-montiel-o.gif Here is an example of GGG doing it. https://49.media.tumblr.com/5ae4071b962684479f1ac696aad0c49a/tumblr_nohnps9MgW1u2ragso1_500.gif If you remember this knockdown, he pawed at Monroe for a while waiting to bait a 1-2 out of him. Why? When Monroe is throwing a straight left, he is turning into the left hook, and can't take any steam off of it. GGG went in committed to taking the straight left to get in his left hook. Now to take those two strategic examples, and apply it to why sometimes fighter will let themselves get hit with good shots. Its mental. If you let your opponent hit you with their hardest shot, and it doesn't faze you, especially if they have other tools to fall back on, the will abandon the idea of trying to hurt you, they are going to start to meter their power, and start trying to outbox you. This means that when you set up punches like in the examples I gave, you can create more opportunities for yourself, and commit to giving one to take one more often because now your opponent is not putting as much mustard on their punches so there is much less risk. Its the kind of nuance of the sport, you have to learn through experience, its not something that you can really pick up just from watching. Obviously it's not the right strategy for every fighter. But it does work, it does take skill. There are even fighter light Marco Antonio Barrera, who do things like taking the right hand to drop a left to the body, but turning his head with the shot to take off the sting. Something that Freddy Roach teaches. Head rolling in general is often neglected by the casual observer because it looks from the outside like you are getting hit with a big shot that spun your head around. There are notable examples of it being seen as part of rote training. Jorge Linares vs Antonio Demarco for example. Even the commentators were questioning why Linares was turning his head after throwing combinations without anything coming back in return. Its a clear example of a habit developed during training. There was something they saw in demarco and wanted to avoid, and trained to turn with the expected counter after throwing. Its a different variation of letting a fighter hit you. By turning your head instead of slipping or blocking you can continue trading and get the better of an exchange. It can be seen in usage frequently by Marco Antonio Barrera and Israel Vazquez.

He let Brook hit him on the chin then? Doubtful. That uppercut was a massive shot. Albeit thrown by an undersized opponent.

:rofl::rofl::rofl: In a video game....that's the only place you ever sparred. Care to bet real money on that? Come find me in the bay area, name your gym. Any gym in SF, Oakland, north or south bay and I'll show up with my own gear and leave with your respect. I spar every week, have for many moons.

The Monroe one is a terrible example. They never show any moment where Golovkin "lets" himself be hit. Stopped watching if that is the example this video goes with. There is definitely a moment in the Murray fight where Golovkin puts his head forward and lets Murray tee off on him. It was extremely obvious.

When you look at a GGG thread because you lowkey like GGG but his fanboys start sayin stupid shixt. https://s16.postimg.org/q25nuehj9/Screen_Shot_2016_11_11_at_8_48_20_AM.png

Lool Maxi back to his nut hugging best.... He didn't let Brook hit him, Brook made openings for himself. Golovkin doesn't have terrible defence like some say but he's not a defensive wizard that doesn't get hit unless he wants them to hit him. Please don't refer to the Lemieux fight, Lemieux has very little boxing skill.... It was obvious to anyone that if Golovkin played it safe that David would be absolutely stuffed. It seems like Maxi is back to retake his throne from BigDramaShow as the one who can keep Golovkin's balls the warmest. It seems like these extreme Golovkin fans would be well suited to WWE and fake drama.... they love scripted street fights with no hopers.

I agree - you can get a feel for somebody power through your guard, not by letting them tee of on your chin lol. I used to like doing this myself - it gives you ALOT of confidence when you know the guy is not 'heavy handed' even if he can out box you. On the flip side, when you get that ringing in your ears even when hes hitting into your gloves...that's can be a concern.

GGG admitted he had problems with Brooks timing / range. He is the type of fighter who likes to get a taste of his opponents power - I respect that hugely. Its a dangerous tactic though, unless you are fighting Paulie. You can taste a guy's power without "letting him you on purpose." And Brook visibly hurt Golovkin so you don't want to let Brook "hit you on purpose" if you know he can hurt you.

golovkin's not an excellent defensive fighter. he's not a "face first brawler," and he defends a lot better than rios, but he's far from excellent defensively. he gets hit a lot for a pound for pound fighter. golovkin "sets aside the best practices of defense" in the name of offense much more than for gamesmanship. saying that he's only getting hit because he "wants to get hit" is naive. he gets hit because he wants to hit the other guy. there are only a handful of instances in his career where he's actually let a guy get a free shot, and he's cerainly been hit cleanly more than that handful of times. Wrapz is a good poster but sometimes you gotta know when he's trolling just feeding other people's ego. As far as the rest of your post goes, some of these guys will say just about anything to defend or justify anything their guy does in the ring. It's ridiculous. I'd love to see these guys get in a ring and "let their opponent hit them on purpose." Whether it's sparring, amateur or professional.

GGG admitted he had problems with Brooks timing / range. He is the type of fighter who likes to get a taste of his opponents power - I respect that hugely. Its a dangerous tactic though, unless you are fighting Paulie.

His defense just isnt that good, why are ya'll trying to make this man into some kind of untouchable god?? he is a come forward slugger and gets hit..it is what it is tghis isn't fair, either. he does a heck of a lot more than just come forward and slug. the guy had over 300 amateur fights. i know you guys who go against golvokin think youre unbiased, but it's not the acse if you don't recognize that he does more than just come forward and slug.

Good post. Well said. Canelo won't be his hardest opponent, only the biggest name. What Canelo does with stationary targets is irrelevant because Golovkin won't be sitting still in front of him and even when he does in spots, Golovkins defense is better and so is his punch repertoire. All of this would be true....if we were talking about Brandon Rios. I don't have to much to say to you on this topic because I know you know boxing, but you still sit here and pretend like Golovkin isn't a complete fighter. His defense is excelent, choosing to get tagged against certain guys doesn't change that, as I alluded to earlier in this thread. I don't for a second believe you believe your own post because a guy like you is smart enough to see the difference between face first brawling, and setting aside the best practices of defense in the name of gamesmanship. golovkin's not an excellent defensive fighter. he's not a "face first brawler," and he defends a lot better than rios, but he's far from excellent defensively. he gets hit a lot for a pound for pound fighter. golovkin "sets aside the best practices of defense" in the name of offense much more than for gamesmanship. saying that he's only getting hit because he "wants to get hit" is naive. he gets hit because he wants to hit the other guy. there are only a handful of instances in his career where he's actually let a guy get a free shot, and he's cerainly been hit cleanly more than that handful of times.

He definitely looked different against guy who can KO you in Lemeiux but who's very limited with no head movement or speed! Wait till he fights a fighter with range and can slip the inside and is very rugged on the inside, and turns punches well!

Way to not actually respond to what was posted and just reveal your hater bias. IF you think GGG was trying to avoid those punches, at least in the first two clips, you DKSAB. Stopped reading at "stuff jones"... lol Every time I've seen that name on here, the content to the right of it is just trash. :rofl:

I'd say he let Monroe hit him a lil bit. Mostly I think he feels a guys power and knows he can take shots to deliver his own to get the guy out so he doesn't care. Against Lemieux he knew that wasn't a good idea and from the opening bell he maintained his defensive awareness and controlled the fight in a completely different way than we've seen in other fights.

I honestly feel embarrassed. It saddens me when the people I like chatting about boxing with turn out to be so insecure and delusional that they pretend their favorite boxer is catching clean shots on purpose. No boxer is perfect. They ALL have flaws. Stuff like this is cringe-inducing. Way to not actually respond to what was posted and just reveal your hater bias. IF you think GGG was trying to avoid those punches, at least in the first two clips, you DKSAB.

His defense just isnt that good, why are ya'll trying to make this man into some kind of untouchable god?? he is a come forward slugger and gets hit..it is what it is

You're a F*CKING idiot if you think a boxer let's himself get hit on purpose. And that goes for anybody who shares the same sentiments as op. It's fkin incredible isn't it? It's fkin sad that in a boxing forum we get these type of threads. F*cking casuals, man. You are the fckin idiot... the truth is the truth, if you can't see it it's your problem.

I honestly feel embarrassed. It saddens me when the people I like chatting about boxing with turn out to be so insecure and delusional that they pretend their favorite boxer is catching clean shots on purpose. No boxer is perfect. They ALL have flaws. Stuff like this is cringe-inducing. I agree 100 percent this is down right disgusting....