Jacobs was paid 1.5 millions just because of Quillin

The fight had 300k ratings and barely sold 8k seats. WTF you talk about. Keep it real. Showtime put a significant amount of money behind the fight, Barclays Center put a significant amount of money/time behind the fight, the fight was a barnburner for the brief period that it lasted, and no one that had an actual stake in the fight left grumbling about anything. The ratings and the attendance were what they were, but the folks the actual money people were happy with it. Barclays Center is chomping at the bit to host Daniel Jacobs next big fight (the new insurance rules have clearly put a damper on the type of fight that makes sense to bring to Barclays Center), and Showtime has already made it abundantly clear that they are ready to put up a massive fee to host Jacobs' next big fight. MGM Resorts paid $16m to host Cotto-Alvarez, decided to stage the fight at the 12k-seat Mandalay Bay EC, and only chose to sell maybe 2k tickets (with the rest being kept for their gamblers/friends). If you honestly think that Showtime/Barclays Center, after the Quillin fight, isn't going to go to the mats to stage Golovkin-Jacobs, you're being silly. The reason why Loeffler continues to delay the bid is obvious. Keep it real; if Barclays Center could pay $2m to stage the marketing face of their merchandising brand at their home venue (having Lou DiBella, New York's foremost promoter, make back that money with interest at the live gate with a competitive fight between two fighters with profiles in NYC), you're kidding yourself.

Jacobs nor Golovkin are campaigning in the WBO. The most likely scenario is Alvarez vs Saunders, and again, BJS in interviews welcomes the Alvarez fight more than anyone, and said willing to cross the pond with Warren already loving the AT&T stadium experience and what GBP pulled off. GBP can offer 3.5 to Saunders Alvarez can pay the price that Saunders is looking for; the rest of it isn't worth talking about, tbh. Though the WBO doesn't go out of their way to be a part of unification fights, they're not opposed to them if their champion wants to pursue such a fight. Still, not sure how that would tie into the statement that you were responding to.

jacobs last fight was fought in the hometown of one of the undercard fighters on the card. he has no popularity. why should the whole world pretend he is popular? wouldn't it be easier if one person(jacobs) realized he wasn't popular. Jacobs said himself in one recent interview that he felt frustrated because he didn't understand how he couldn't be more popular. He basically admitted it. The reason is that he's not that good, or he's not willing to prove it.

Quillin vacated because he ended up needing the time off :haha: Talk about nice try. :rofl:

jacobs last fight was fought in the hometown of one of the undercard fighters on the card. he has no popularity. why should the whole world pretend he is popular? wouldn't it be easier if one person(jacobs) realized he wasn't popular.

Jacobs-Quillin was a fight that things have been built to for a while, the fight was looked at as being a big fight in NYC, and Quillin having a higher profile with Jacobs bringing the belt, in essence, made the fight 50/50 financially. Jacobs took the fight, won it in impressive fashion and is positioned for the next opportunity. The fight had 300k ratings and barely sold 8k seats. WTF you talk about. Keep it real.

People always say Jacobs should get more than 1.5 million because that's what he made against Quillin but if I said GGG should get more than 4 million because that's what he got for Brook and Jacobs is more dangerous I'd be called and idiot, and rightfully so. Daniel Jacobs deserves a significant share on the fight; whether than number is $1.5m or more is beyond me. If K2 doesn't want to right a check up front, why not split the event on the backside? K2 doesn't want to give up 40%, and 25% is likely a lowball share for value on the fight; split the difference. Stage the event where the most money can be made, Golovkin gets a guaranteed $1.5m, Jacobs gets a guaranteed $1m, and Jacobs gets 32% of whatever the event brings in above that. Not too complicated' just make the fight

Quillin was offered 1.4 millions to fight.. Kovorov? and he declined and vacated the WBO belt, because Haymon promised him the same money in the future. Then he got to fight Jacobs and Quillin was getting paid 1.5 because that's what Haymon had offered to him if he vacated that belt, and Jacobs got the same because both were Haymon fighters. But in reality it would be a fight with 700k for both max. Now he uses that ****ty argument to say he needs to be paid more. BS. You don't deserve more you interim champion that can't sell. No **** that s why I stated in other post that Haymon should come up with the difference to make the fight happen .

Any theory that perhaps prolonging the Jacobs deal would result in the same scenario as Quillin did against Korobov? Meaning, the hope that Jacobs vacates the belt and not interested in the purse bid? I wonder if Loeffler feels that Haymon would advise Jacobs to drop his regular strap. Jacobs without a middleweight title is worth far less to PBC/Showtime/Haymon, so I doubt anyone tells Jacobs to give up the only chit that puts him into the top conversation. I think I've been pretty consistent on this line of thinking, but I earnestly believe that Loeffler can figure that Jacobs and Co are up for the fight, to the point that, were the fight to go to formal bids, K2's business with HBO will be put at risk (The moment that Billy Joe Saunders chose not to engage in making a fight with Jacobs, with Alvarez not being an option, Golovkin instantly became Jacobs' top target). Because, as the Sergio Mora rematch seemed to have shown, the other viable options for Jacobs aren't all that plentiful. Haymon paying Golovkin a flat fee (whatever the price ends up being) to come to the Barclays Center and over to Showtime to give Brooklyn's "favorite son" a fight (not all that different from the deal that Eddie Hearn cut to bring Golovkin over to the UK without having an opponent locked in) isn't all that bad an idea. Would Loeffler advise Golovkin to simply give up the WBA 160lb belt? Possibly ("hey Gennady, I know this hurts now, but holding onto the belt adds an additional barrier to the Alvarez fight than we can be bothered with. let's beat Alvarez, and then we can double back for the belt later)

In the same breath you just tried to legitimate GGG's regular title while sh1tting on Jacobs...just stupid no, he didn't; he tried to turn Golovkin knocking off some stumblebum for the interim WBA title as the bout that made Golovkin the uncrowned king, lol. give folks enough rope...

When did I say that it wasn't this way? that's the reason why Quillin vacated, yes. And the reason why Jacobs got the same money is because he was also a Haymon fighter and he wanted the same money Quillin was making. Otherwise there was no way he was getting that purse. Jacobs-Quillin was a fight that things have been built to for a while, the fight was looked at as being a big fight in NYC, and Quillin having a higher profile with Jacobs bringing the belt, in essence, made the fight 50/50 financially. Jacobs took the fight, won it in impressive fashion and is positioned for the next opportunity.

People always say Jacobs should get more than 1.5 million because that's what he made against Quillin but if I said GGG should get more than 4 million because that's what he got for Brook and Jacobs is more dangerous I'd be called and idiot, and rightfully so.

Any theory that perhaps prolonging the Jacobs deal would result in the same scenario as Quillin did against Korobov? Meaning, the hope that Jacobs vacates the belt and not interested in the purse bid? I wonder if Loeffler feels that Haymon would advise Jacobs to drop his regular strap. No, it's just the opposite, dumb fcuk.

He was offered eight figures and a percentage of the PPV. Loeffler wants a split in the whole promotion not just a percentage of the PPV. Meaning ticket sales, merchandise, sponsors, etc... He wants a split that is similar to the finalized agreement for last year's mega-event between Floyd Mayweather Jr. and Manny Pacquiao - which saw a 60-40 split of the revenue in Mayweather's favor. I get you're angry and desperate but come on man, we all know what flat fee means.

He was offered $10 mil and a PPV percentage from the beginning. That interview i posted was the first one Oscar did. Before K2 responded. I don't understand where everybody is getting this idea that only a flat fee was offered. That's not true How much can you trust Oscar? This is what he was saying 10 days earlier, weeks after they supposedly made the offer: http://www.boxingscene.com/de-la-hoya-flat-fee-golovkin-face-canelo-no-money-split--108479

He was offered $10 mil and a PPV percentage from the beginning. That interview i posted was the first one Oscar did. Before K2 responded. I don't understand where everybody is getting this idea that only a flat fee was offered. That's not true And they are negotiating, whats your problem? The fight is in 10 months, not now. Jacobs Golovkin had a deadline and a date in december.

Why are people continuing this lie that GGG wasn't offered a percentage of the PPV? Where did this lie come from? Oscar De La Hoya, Alvarez’s promoter, said late Saturday night that he could pay three-belt middleweight champion Golovkin at least $10 million plus an undisclosed pay-per-view percentage. http://www.latimes.com/sports/boxing...nap-story.html Oscar and K2 are negotiating now, of course. So what? does that make Jacobs worth 3 millions? haha.

So Lara had a right to ask for a PPV upside, but not Golovkin, who should take a flat fee. You lose again. Jacobs is avoiding GGG. GGG was not avoiding Sturm, Sturm was avoiding him. Understand? does not make the regular title mean anymore..if it meant something for GGG then it means something for Jacobs

And that fight bombed, so neither guy was actually worth that kind of money. Jacobs is trying to get retirement money before he takes the Golovkin risk. Hilarious that the same people justifying that are in here now saying "who cares how much he makes?" You all do, considering you're all for blaming K2 for not overpaying Jacobs.

And most of Lara's money came from the PPV upside. Compare regular HBO fights to regular HBO fights. How much was Kirkland paid? So Lara had a right to ask for a PPV upside, but not Golovkin, who should take a flat fee. You lose again. In the same breath you just tried to legitimate GGG's regular title while sh1tting on Jacobs...just stupid Jacobs is avoiding GGG. GGG was not avoiding Sturm, Sturm was avoiding him. Understand?