300 Amateur Fights And Can't Cut The Ring Off?

Cutting the ring off is good for some people and not so good for others. When you cut off the ring you're always a step behind so while you're trying to gain that ground you're susceptible to get hit. Chavez and GGG were/are great at cutting it off because they are very strong and durable with good defense and counter punching but not everybody can do it like that and be successful at it. Margarito was a tremendous pressure fighter but I don't remember him cutting the ring off. Pavlik didn't cut off the ring either. Lomachenko is probably the best fighter in close quarters he doesn't cut off the ring. Being able to cut off the ring doesn't automatically translate into more success. Just cause it works for GGG it doesn't mean it can work for everybody else. Anybody can learn how to cut off the ring. The skills of just moving laterally with your opponent is not hard to master. What's hard is being able to punch off moving laterally and while you're always a step behind to be able to defend and counter punch with ease. When you cut the ring off in most cases you get squared up and a lot of boxers don't want to expose their centre line like that. For guys like Ruslan on the other hand, not cutting off the ring is inexcusable. You make a lot of good points. Relikh looks like a good young fighter. I guess he had to take the title shot when he got it , but it might have been too soon for him. BTW he's from Belarus:)

im not trying to dismiss anything. whos my favorite fighter? im just explaining that the term cutting off the ring gets used around here too often as if its the sole purpose to win a fight lol. your opponent moves to the right, you move to the right in an attempt to cut him off, he makes a sudden change and move to the left and then circle out and away he goes. the person chasing the other guy will always be a step slower since you dont know what your opponent is gonna do, all your doing is waiting for a reaction so you can act up on it so your always going to be a step behind. some fighters can set up their punches better by coming in straight at you than to move to the side to try and cut the opponent off then set up his shot. by the time he does that, the opponent will be gone already just like i mention. its harder to throw when your moving to the side as compare to coming in straight and just throwing a punch out. Your Opinion is just that, AN OPINION go talk to boxing trainers and go tell them your little "CUTTING OFF THE RING DON'T MATTER" theory so they can school you on why you're wrong. Not my job to convince you of anything you have your opinion and although I think your opinion is complete SH1T it is your opinion and you're entitled to it :dunno:

like i said, your opponent will just move to the other direction and circle out of it. cutting off the ring doesnt mean anything. this whole "cutting off the ring" is being used too much on here to criticize fighters that doesnt do it. its actually funny. "oh he doesnt cut off the ring". sounds like those dude that trys too hard to fit in. ...RIGHT Because the people saying "Cutting The Ring Off Doesn't Mean Anything" are not saying so with a motive at all right? Your favorite fighter is NOT so good at cutting the ring off so you want to dismiss that as being something important I get it http://i.imgur.com/QyZso.gif

actually no, boxing was first started out to resolve dispute. then later became a sport for entertaining. go watch some old boxing fights and you'll see two guys slugging it out in the middle of the ring. the "hit and not get hit" concept came along with most african americans didnt want to take punishment. Fighters that didn't take too much punishment like Joe Gans or Jack Johnson for example were actually the most successful of their time, boxing is a smart man's game not a tough man contest. Willie Pepp, one of the top 3 best defensive fighters of all time, was white, same as Nicolino Locche. It's competition, it's a sport, it's about winning, smart fighters win dumb fighters lose. Go watch an action movie or a street fight if u wanna c 2 brainless oafs slug it out, that has nothing to do with boxing.

because when you cut off the ring the fighter is trapped and cant go anywhere else right? cutting off the ring is just a way to try and slow your opponent down, it doesnt necessarily stops him completely. your opponent moves to the right you move to the right to cut him off, he dash back to his left and circle out. repeat. When Done Right? WATCH AND LEARN: We all know Foreman was not known for his speed at all during his Prime but one thing he did brilliantly even vs Ali was CUT THE RING OFF! It depends on how you do it, fighters today just not as skilled as their fans want others to believe. It is a lot of "GOOD" fighters currently fighting to day but "GREAT FIGHTERS" NO! I have yet to see a fighter this ERA that I can truly call "GREAT" all I see is HYPE and fans acting like GROUPIES towards certain fighters and hyping them off to be better than what they really are because for some reason they get off on that Great fighters can/could find ways to beat ALL STYLES! NO EXCUSE!

Ever tried cutting the ring off on someone who's faster than you? It's really annoying.

Originally Boxing was about prize fighting. If you didn't entertain the fans you didn't get paid. The new form of Boxing we have today is actually much further down the drain than two warriors standing in the centre of the ring trying to K.O each other. Hit and not get hit is not the heart and soul of Boxing. Go watch an action movie and leave the sport of boxing alone, boxing is a sport just like any other sport, the goal is to win, and winners should be appreciated for the fact that whatever they did was successful and they won doing it, hit and not get hit IS boxing! whether u like it or not

Commentators who never fought before don't understand the subtle technicalities of certain styles and therefore fail miserably at making fans understand boxing, instead they are focused on drama and KOs that everyone understands, the more they deviate from what the sport is really about, the art of pugilism, the further down the drain that sport will go. Originally Boxing was about prize fighting. If you didn't entertain the fans you didn't get paid. The new form of Boxing we have today is actually much further down the drain than two warriors standing in the centre of the ring trying to K.O each other. Hit and not get hit is not the heart and soul of Boxing.

because most poster on here have never put on a pair of gloves and taken and actual shot from another person trying to knock your block off. :lame: but can you answer my earlier point? how the hell does somebody go so many amateur fights before turning pro? 300 fight? wouldnt 200 fights be enough? hell 100 would be enough if you have some inherent natural fighting skill, athleticism and talent. Pernell Whitaker DE LA Hoya rigondeax lomachenko kovalev ggg all had 200 am. Fights . 3 of them had closer to 400 worked for them

because most poster on here have never put on a pair of gloves and taken and actual shot from another person trying to knock your block off. :lame: but can you answer my earlier point? how the hell does somebody go so many amateur fights before turning pro? 300 fight? wouldnt 200 fights be enough? hell 100 would be enough if you have some inherent natural fighting skill, athleticism and talent.other countries have great amateur boxing programs and they get taken care of. So long amateur careers are the norm. The U.S. amateur program is pillaged by greed. That's why we are so bad.

it meant something to him at the time. marv was past his best and ray knew it

Hagler spent the night cutting off the ring on Leonard, it didn't mean a thing.

Fighters don't feel they have to cut the ring off, they will just b1tch and complain after the fight like their Pu$$Y Fans about how their opponents "RAN" :lol1: Nothing great about if you if you can't find away to beat ALL STYLES because in this sport it is NO WAY every fighter if going to fight the same. Some will stick and move, some will stand toe to toe, some are able to work from the pocket, use timing in the pocket and still be slippery and slick standing right in front on his opponent What qualifies for Greatness in this ERA is "POWER" if you have Power then you're a "GREAT FIGHTER" if you don't have Power then you're not a great fight you're "OVERHYPED" this is the Logic of the dumbest fans of all Sports which are the So Called "BOXING FANS" Not only do guys want Greatness to come to them they also want fighters to come to them during the match as well :lol1: Commentators who never fought before don't understand the subtle technicalities of certain styles and therefore fail miserably at making fans understand boxing, instead they are focused on drama and KOs that everyone understands, the more they deviate from what the sport is really about, the art of pugilism, the further down the drain that sport will go.

Cutting off the ring is easier said than done, mainly cuz AFTER what happens when u get ur opponent on the ropes or in the corner, some fighters successfully cut off the ring but once they corner their opponent they swing and if the opponent sees the punch, dips under it for example and gets out again, you have to cut him off again, fighters that was effective at cutting off the ring were aggressive counter punchers, they'd corner u, wait for u to make a move and then counter u accordingly with a lot of power, so u need very fast reflexes and boxing IQ too, u also need very good head movement and defensive responsibility while doing all that because the movers are always looking to counter u. Movement makes things very complicated, imo I think jabs, changing levels and using feints are the best offensive tools, trying to cut off a lighter more agile opponent all the time can be predictable and ineffective.

Fighters don't feel they have to cut the ring off, they will just b1tch and complain after the fight like their Pu$$Y Fans about how their opponents "RAN" :lol1: Nothing great about if you if you can't find away to beat ALL STYLES because in this sport it is NO WAY every fighter if going to fight the same. Some will stick and move, some will stand toe to toe, some are able to work from the pocket, use timing in the pocket and still be slippery and slick standing right in front on his opponent What qualifies for Greatness in this ERA is "POWER" if you have Power then you're a "GREAT FIGHTER" if you don't have Power then you're not a great fight you're "OVERHYPED" this is the Logic of the dumbest fans of all Sports which are the So Called "BOXING FANS" Not only do guys want Greatness to come to them they also want fighters to come to them during the match as well :lol1:

cutting the ring off is only a necessary skill for certain types of offensive fighters like GGG. How is Bernard Hopkins ring cutting ability? Or Muhammad Ali? Do they even have any. it's retarded for people to say Pacquiao needs ring cutting ability too. Was he supposed to cut the ring off on ODLH, Cotto and Margarito? Or was it Clotty and Shane Mosley? So retarded. Did you see the fight.

sometimes its not even that the opponent makes it harder for them to cut off the ring. sometimes they prolly just dont feel the need to cut off the ring. whats with this board and cutting off the ring? its like this is a special move or something that gets talked about so much on here. cutting off the ring is a basic move just like in basketball where players dribble in between their legs. everyone knows how to do that but not everyone is gonna do it all the time. I get it. Kiryl knew how to cut off the ring but why do it when he could chase Ricky around the ring for 12 rounds. He would rather lose than use that skill.

Kiryl Relikh came close to upsetting Ricky Burns in their title fight. It was a big step up for the Relikh and he showed heart and some skills in the loss to Burns. One skill he didn't show, however, was the ability to cut off the ring. After 300 amateur fights you would think he'd be better at that basic skill or is Burn's footwork that good? It's not just him. Cutting the ring off is a lost art in this sport.

cutting the ring off is only a necessary skill for certain types of offensive fighters like GGG. How is Bernard Hopkins ring cutting ability? Or Muhammad Ali? Do they even have any. it's retarded for people to say Pacquiao needs ring cutting ability too. Was he supposed to cut the ring off on ODLH, Cotto and Margarito? Or was it Clotty and Shane Mosley? So retarded.

sometimes its not even that the opponent makes it harder for them to cut off the ring. sometimes they prolly just dont feel the need to cut off the ring. whats with this board and cutting off the ring? its like this is a special move or something that gets talked about so much on here. cutting off the ring is a basic move just like in basketball where players dribble in between their legs. everyone knows how to do that but not everyone is gonna do it all the time. he didn't cut off the ring is just something "slick fans" say to defend why their fighters desered to win. they always always put the onus on the other guy to do something and when they don't do it look he lost! its a self fulfilling prophecy.