To clear all the confusion i see on this I'll post it here.
According to Yvon Michel on RDS.ca Adonis Stevenson next opponent is Eleider Alvarez for early 2017.
Meanwhile, For getting a better preparation agaisn't Stevenson, Alvarez will fight in the Casino of Montreal the 10th December for a stay busy fight.
Source:
http://www.rds.ca/videos/combat/boxe/boxe-de-gros-combats-sur-la-scene-quebecoise-3.1199345
In Canada, I earnestly believe that Stevenson-Alvarez for the WBC/lineal light heavyweight championship is a bigger fight than Kovalev-Pascal was, either time they put that fight on. Forget if you want, Sergey Kovalev's first legit payday as a pro fighter came from heading north to Montreal; the local market has more buy-in with Stevenson and Alvarez.
There may in fact be a rematch clause for Kovalev-Ward, but the fact that Ward has no obligation to HBO (while Main Events has basically hitched the continued existence of the company to HBO) puts a possible rematch out on the open market, something that Duva likely simply walks from (as she did in the Stevenson talks).
Stevenson did have Hopkins as an option; with Hopkins demanding near all of the money from the fight, for a title unification that Stevenson was the lineal champ for, Stevenson's camp said, in essence, "**** that ****" and moved on (Kovalev, even in the glow of getting the Hopkins fight, was openly griping about how he basically fought the year for free, once paying all obligations, after Hopkins ended up with over 75% of the disclosed money).
Kovalev has had 6 fights since the Stevenson fight initially fell apart, compared to 5 fights by Adonis Stevenson; Kovalev has three belts, but I don't doubt that Stevenson has ended up making double/triple the money.
You honestly believe that.... you really do?
Based on what???
Kovalev's best win was 50.
Sergey called Adonis a chicken.....but when that chicken entered the ring...Kovalev bolted from his own post fight interview:lol1:
I've never seen that before.
That was a new level of cowardice.
Kovalev has more punches in his arsenal than Stevenson. All Stevenson has is a left hand.
Kovalev has better fundamentals than Stevenson.
Stevenson-Alvarez is not a very good fight. Stevenson is head and shoulders above Alvarez.
Alvarez is 20-0 with 10 KO's. He's got no power to speak of.
He's gonna get stopped badly by Stevenson you can take that to the bank. The only reason this fight does any business is because of the local angle. They are both guys based out of Montreal.
IMO Stevenson should have fought Pascal while he was still somewhat relevant. Even coming off of 2 stoppage losses to Kovalev I still think it would make more money than an Alvarez fight.
Hell, you can still get Bute a real good payday by sacrificing him to Stevenson. Even though he'd get murdalized...it's still better than an Alvarez fight.
Alvarez brings very little to the table in every category you can imagine: no fans, no excitement (low KO %) and no personality.
Nobody really cares about this fight.
You honestly think that fight will be big? JUst because they're two montreal based guys? Adonis already can't draw anybody to his fights and what can Alvarez do to help?
If Ward wins, the could happen since Roc can't and won't do anything else W/Ward. THat's if Ward wins and Stevenson fights more than once a year. Pretty sure there's a rematch clause in the fight too.
You just threw up a bunch of hypotheticals, and none of those are supported by what he's done w/his career thus far, like at all.
LOL, he's had the stage set for big fights/paydays forever. Ward, Hopkins, Kovalev. Even if you take out Kov for Duva being a chicken ****, he had Ward and Hopkins in the palm of his hand. He let Kov hold all those other belts now when he could've fought Hopkins 2 years or w/e ago.
His career is just sitting there, doing nothing.
In Canada, I earnestly believe that Stevenson-Alvarez for the WBC/lineal light heavyweight championship is a bigger fight than Kovalev-Pascal was, either time they put that fight on. Forget if you want, Sergey Kovalev's first legit payday as a pro fighter came from heading north to Montreal; the local market has more buy-in with Stevenson and Alvarez.
There may in fact be a rematch clause for Kovalev-Ward, but the fact that Ward has no obligation to HBO (while Main Events has basically hitched the continued existence of the company to HBO) puts a possible rematch out on the open market, something that Duva likely simply walks from (as she did in the Stevenson talks).
Stevenson did have Hopkins as an option; with Hopkins demanding near all of the money from the fight, for a title unification that Stevenson was the lineal champ for, Stevenson's camp said, in essence, "**** that ****" and moved on (Kovalev, even in the glow of getting the Hopkins fight, was openly griping about how he basically fought the year for free, once paying all obligations, after Hopkins ended up with over 75% of the disclosed money).
Kovalev has had 6 fights since the Stevenson fight initially fell apart, compared to 5 fights by Adonis Stevenson; Kovalev has three belts, but I don't doubt that Stevenson has ended up making double/triple the money.
To be honest I don't think that Adonis gives two sh.its about that stuff.
If he don't care about fighting or career going nowhere, i'm cool with that too
And all those fights he's taken since were lesser than a rematch.
I won't argue that his resume is better than Kovs, but how sad is it that you have the better quality of opponents and nobody cares about you and the guy with the lesser resume is getting all the attention, all the praise and anything positive coming his way while you sit fighting once a year on a Friday night in front of a couple thousand.
I guess he can take that as a moral victory when he buys the Kov/Ward PPV
To be honest I don't think that Adonis gives two sh.its about that stuff.
And all those fights he's taken since were lesser than a rematch.
I won't argue that his resume is better than Kovs, but how sad is it that you have the better quality of opponents and nobody cares about you and the guy with the lesser resume is getting all the attention, all the praise and anything positive coming his way while you sit fighting once a year on a Friday night in front of a couple thousand.
I guess he can take that as a moral victory when he buys the Kov/Ward PPV
Kovalev is a better fighter than Stevenson.
What is Stevenson's best win? Dawson who was coming off a loss to Ward in a fight he was weight-drained? Bellew? Williams, who quit against ancient Campillo?
Also, Stevenson uses his athleticism to cover up his flaws. He's 39 years old, so his athleticism won't last much longer.
Stevenson will have his fight against Alvarez in early 2017 in Montreal (with two Montreal-based fighters, facing off n Montreal, you can imagine how much Canadian money will end up being pushed behind the event), and then be sent for a likely massive Summer/Fall fight against Andre Ward to unify all of the belts at 175 (Kathy Duva never gets up the gumption to take the risk).
What happens after that will come down to how Stevenson performs and on how much longer he wants to fight. Regardless of that, though, Stevenson has the stage set for at least two massive paydays for he and his family.
As long as Stevenson can fight and defend his lineal/WBC light heavyweight title, to argue that his career is going nowhere is ridiculous.
You honestly think that fight will be big? JUst because they're two montreal based guys? Adonis already can't draw anybody to his fights and what can Alvarez do to help?
If Ward wins, the could happen since Roc can't and won't do anything else W/Ward. THat's if Ward wins and Stevenson fights more than once a year. Pretty sure there's a rematch clause in the fight too.
You just threw up a bunch of hypotheticals, and none of those are supported by what he's done w/his career thus far, like at all.
LOL, he's had the stage set for big fights/paydays forever. Ward, Hopkins, Kovalev. Even if you take out Kov for Duva being a chicken ****, he had Ward and Hopkins in the palm of his hand. He let Kov hold all those other belts now when he could've fought Hopkins 2 years or w/e ago.
His career is just sitting there, doing nothing.
He beat Fonfara soundly. And as inactive as Adonis has been he's doing a lot better than Kovalev.
And all those fights he's taken since were lesser than a rematch.
I won't argue that his resume is better than Kovs, but how sad is it that you have the better quality of opponents and nobody cares about you and the guy with the lesser resume is getting all the attention, all the praise and anything positive coming his way while you sit fighting once a year on a Friday night in front of a couple thousand.
I guess he can take that as a moral victory when he buys the Kov/Ward PPV
Much ado about nothing? Even if you throw out his age and late start, look where he stands with his career. The supposed best LHW because he has the lineal title... but he barely fights, and when he does it's on a friday night on Showbox, spike or some shit.
You really gonna defend him doing nothing, especially signing w/Haymon who was supposed to boost him?
He couldn't even make the Fonfara rematch after boiling it over for 2 years.
Even you can't argue that his career is going nowhere right now, absolutely nowhere.
Stevenson will have his fight against Alvarez in early 2017 in Montreal (with two Montreal-based fighters, facing off n Montreal, you can imagine how much Canadian money will end up being pushed behind the event), and then be sent for a likely massive Summer/Fall fight against Andre Ward to unify all of the belts at 175 (Kathy Duva never gets up the gumption to take the risk).
What happens after that will come down to how Stevenson performs and on how much longer he wants to fight. Regardless of that, though, Stevenson has the stage set for at least two massive paydays for he and his family.
As long as Stevenson can fight and defend his lineal/WBC light heavyweight title, to argue that his career is going nowhere is ridiculous.
Much ado about nothing? Even if you throw out his age and late start, look where he stands with his career. The supposed best LHW because he has the lineal title... but he barely fights, and when he does it's on a friday night on Showbox, spike or some shit.
You really gonna defend him doing nothing, especially signing w/Haymon who was supposed to boost him?
He couldn't even make the Fonfara rematch after boiling it over for 2 years.
Even you can't argue that his career is going nowhere right now, absolutely nowhere.
He beat Fonfara soundly. And as inactive as Adonis has been he's doing a lot better than Kovalev.
Adonis Stevenson only put on boxing gloves in his mid 20s, had all of 40 fights as an amateur, and has never taken a beating as a professional. You add that he seems to stay in the gym, while also not having to torture his body to make weight, and your comment is much ado about nothing.
Much ado about nothing? Even if you throw out his age and late start, look where he stands with his career. The supposed best LHW because he has the lineal title... but he barely fights, and when he does it's on a friday night on Showbox, spike or some shit.
You really gonna defend him doing nothing, especially signing w/Haymon who was supposed to boost him?
He couldn't even make the Fonfara rematch after boiling it over for 2 years.
Even you can't argue that his career is going nowhere right now, absolutely nowhere.
Fought one time this year... great activity for a 39 year old
Adonis Stevenson only put on boxing gloves in his mid 20s, had all of 40 fights as an amateur, and has never taken a beating as a professional. You add that he seems to stay in the gym, while also not having to torture his body to make weight, and your comment is much ado about nothing.