HBO only made $9 million from Mayweather-Pacquiao

HBO has said before that they do not make much money on PPVs and would prefer they do not exist, considering PPVs are taking viewership numbers from their actual HBO channels, but its either do them or let them go to Showtime or elsewhere.

Floyd bought a koenigsegg ccx trevita and 3 bugattis with hbos cut lol

Damn......

The networks get $9 a buy with 100% of all costs covered. So network does win.

HBO has a near 40 year, unbroken history of being the "home of premium boxing". Before Haymon's attempt, boxing hadn't been on terrestrial TV, in any meaningful way, for 30 years. nice try, though. i just used your argument, I didn't have to try anything.

only a Floyd fan would say good job Floyd when he walks across a bridge and then burns it down after him so no one else can cross. good job Floyd! boxing is dead but you got money so yay? You need to climb up from out of your rock. Boxing has been on the downslide for years. The Mayweather Pacquiao rivalry kept it a float by giving boxing a certain life support system. Once the fight happened the sport was taken off it's life support.

whats the availability of NBC,CBS,Fox,Spike TV ? HBO has a near 40 year, unbroken history of being the "home of premium boxing". Before Haymon's attempt, boxing hadn't been on terrestrial TV, in any meaningful way, for 30 years. nice try, though.

and who's to say that came from boxing? It could just as easily be attributed to Homeland, Dexter, Californication, Shameless, etc etc....... Never argued that the full slate was from Floyd; have yet to find the information needed to make any such case. (If there was a late 2012 subscriber number, one could make a better guess at the impact of Floyd's move) Was simply making the case that Floyd's move to Showtime, even before a single PPV was sold, led to a lot of folks picking up the channel that didn't have it before, with that money going straight into the CBS revenue pot; whether that number was 10m (which I doubt) or 2m(which I doubt as being too low) is beyond my current info. You consider the folks who picked up Showtime for Floyd (even if they only stayed around from 2013 through the end of 2015, you're still looking at $400 in revenue per home) and Showtime's share on the revenues that Floyd generated on PPV ($220m share for the Pacquiao fight, $150m for the Alvarez fight, $150m for the two Maidana fights, and arguably another $100m from the Guerrero and Berto fights), while also noting how Floyd's heat was used to set the stage for fighters like Danny Garcia, Keith Thurman, Deontay Wilder, and even Kell Brook (Porter was looking to be lined up for Floyd before taking that L; Brook winning got Showtime involved with Matchroom Sport, which likely also opened up the door for Showtime to get their first look at Anthony Joshua), and I don't see how Showtime loss out on the deal. Floyd's guarantee was more than covered by Floyd's revenues, Showtime pocketed a good bit of money in their own right ($40m, off of the 6 fights, isn't an outlandish guess in my opinion), and Showtime has boxing's next superfight, imo, angled for their channel (Wilder vs Joshua, possibly to unify all the belts, isn't too far off), at the least (I still think that Ward-Stvenson, to unify at 175, happens on SHO, Garcia-Thurman happens on Showtime or CBS, and Daniel Jacobs will likely be fighting for the full WBA 160 belt on Showtime). It was a calculated risk, but the deal looks like it worked out.

Keep fooling yourself. Nice adding decoy links bro. Showtime showed nothing but the appearance of a broke boxing network and hardly produced fights after their Mayweather stint. Thousands were left with a choice of canceling their subscriptions. Even Rogers Canada dropped Showtime boxing in their Superchannel package because there was hardly any boxing shows. What's the point? What decoy link? In 2011, Showtime was available in 18m homes. By July 2015 (with Floyd being one fight away from heading out the door), Showtime was available in 28m homes. Now, all of it can't be attributed to Floyd (Homeland coming around in 2011 with Shameless, and Ray Donovan coming around in 2013 definitely helps), but to foolishly say that Floyd's move led to none of that growth makes you look like an idiot. Rogers Canada can do whatever they want, that's their business (if the change was actually due to content, Showtime has currently put on 6 Showtime Championship Boxing cards, 2 SHO International broadcasts, and at least 8 ShoBox cards, compared to all of maybe 10 fight cards from HBO). will gladly keep giving you more rope

Beats me; still, funny to see folks ignore context, though. Roman Gonzalez, with "superstar" Golovkin as his lead-in, was only able to draw 850k for his fight, yet HBO is available in 10m more homes than Showtime. Gonzalez-Quadras: 850k Ward-Brand: 750k Crawford-Postol (ppv replay): 375k Kovalev-Chilemba (non-boxing night, tbf): 350k Martinez-Lomachenko (direct competition with Showtime for boxing eyes): 585k Vargas-Salido: 835k Alvarez-Khan (ppv replay): 765k Golovkin-Wade: 1.35m Pacquiao-Bradley (ppv replay): 750k Ward-Barrera: 1.05m Ortiz-Thompson: 750k Crawford-Lundy: 985k Kovalev-Pascal II: 1.2m With HBO literally being available in nearly 30% more homes than Showtime, how do you explain HBO's boxing numbers, especially after April. Knock off the 30% audience difference, and the conversion of viewers to boxing isn't all that out of line between the two channels as is. What's Showtimes highest rating this year, like 500k? That's 750k on Hbo, they get that for replays. Flyweights get better numbers. Even their ratings duds do better prorated than the 3x more expensive Jacobs Quillin, nevermind those Smw fights.

Beats me; still, funny to see folks ignore context, though. Roman Gonzalez, with "superstar" Golovkin as his lead-in, was only able to draw 850k for his fight, yet HBO is available in 10m more homes than Showtime. Gonzalez-Quadras: 850k Ward-Brand: 750k Crawford-Postol (ppv replay): 375k Kovalev-Chilemba (non-boxing night, tbf): 350k Martinez-Lomachenko (direct competition with Showtime for boxing eyes): 585k Vargas-Salido: 835k Alvarez-Khan (ppv replay): 765k Golovkin-Wade: 1.35m Pacquiao-Bradley (ppv replay): 750k Ward-Barrera: 1.05m Ortiz-Thompson: 750k Crawford-Lundy: 985k Kovalev-Pascal II: 1.2m With HBO literally being available in nearly 30% more homes than Showtime, how do you explain HBO's boxing numbers, especially after April. Knock off the 30% audience difference, and the conversion of viewers to boxing isn't all that out of line between the two channels as is. whats the availability of NBC,CBS,Fox,Spike TV ?

So how come their boxing ratings are so horrific? Beats me; still, funny to see folks ignore context, though. Roman Gonzalez, with "superstar" Golovkin as his lead-in, was only able to draw 850k for his fight, yet HBO is available in 10m more homes than Showtime. Gonzalez-Quadras: 850k Ward-Brand: 750k Crawford-Postol (ppv replay): 375k Kovalev-Chilemba (non-boxing night, tbf): 350k Martinez-Lomachenko (direct competition with Showtime for boxing eyes): 585k Vargas-Salido: 835k Alvarez-Khan (ppv replay): 765k Golovkin-Wade: 1.35m Pacquiao-Bradley (ppv replay): 750k Ward-Barrera: 1.05m Ortiz-Thompson: 750k Crawford-Lundy: 985k Kovalev-Pascal II: 1.2m With HBO literally being available in nearly 30% more homes than Showtime, how do you explain HBO's boxing numbers, especially after April. Knock off the 30% audience difference, and the conversion of viewers to boxing isn't all that out of line between the two channels as is.

Remember the money distribution for the networks was proportional to the distribution for the whole may/pac teams. So 1. Showtime did more than that, and; 2. In that case it was arum/pac who ripped off HBO, as each camp was responsible for the distribution of the revenue among themselves. Good post. HBO got the lesser share of the 7.5% available or whatever. Because the fighters had so much leverage maybe the total network share was even lower.

Remember the money distribution for the networks was proportional to the distribution for the whole may/pac teams. So 1. Showtime did more than that, and; 2. In that case it was arum/pac who ripped off HBO, as each camp was responsible for the distribution of the revenue among themselves.

^^^lol, look at this mother****er. https://www.fastcompany.com/1721184/netflix-now-boasts-more-subscribers-showtime-starz-hbo-next https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Showtime_(TV_network) Between January 2011 through at least July 2015, Showtime was able to pick up 10 million homes. At $11 per month (or $132 per home) you're looking at Showtime making almost $1.4m more in revenue than they were making in 2011. Showtime isn't putting up the money for Mayweather-McGregor because 1)it's a **** fight and 2)there's literally no way for them to make back their money . thought you were smarter than that and who's to say that came from boxing? It could just as easily be attributed to Homeland, Dexter, Californication, Shameless, etc etc.......

^^^lol, look at this mother****er. https://www.fastcompany.com/1721184/netflix-now-boasts-more-subscribers-showtime-starz-hbo-next https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Showtime_(TV_network) Between January 2011 through at least July 2015, Showtime was able to pick up 10 million homes. At $11 per month (or $132 per home) you're looking at Showtime making almost $1.4m more in revenue than they were making in 2011. Showtime isn't putting up the money for Mayweather-McGregor because 1)it's a **** fight and 2)there's literally no way for them to make back their money . thought you were smarter than that Keep fooling yourself. Nice adding decoy links bro. Showtime showed nothing but the appearance of a broke boxing network and hardly produced fights after their Mayweather stint. Thousands were left with a choice of canceling their subscriptions. Even Rogers Canada dropped Showtime boxing in their Superchannel package because there was hardly any boxing shows. What's the point?

^^^lol, look at this mother****er. https://www.fastcompany.com/1721184/netflix-now-boasts-more-subscribers-showtime-starz-hbo-next https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Showtime_(TV_network) Between January 2011 through at least July 2015, Showtime was able to pick up 10 million homes. At $11 per month (or $132 per home) you're looking at Showtime making almost $1.4m more in revenue than they were making in 2011. Showtime isn't putting up the money for Mayweather-McGregor because 1)it's a **** fight and 2)there's literally no way for them to make back their money . thought you were smarter than that So how come their boxing ratings are so horrific?

Stop making sh1t up bro. Showtime lost a lot of subscribers for not being able to produce fights right after the Pac/May fight. The rest of that year was abysmal. This from a network that was supposedly made tons of money from the Mayweather contract. Espinoza was in recent articles making it clear they're not funding the MacGregor fight. Or whoever he fights for his comeback fight. And, again, this from a network that supposedly made huge amounts of money from Mayweather. It's a myth doe. Mayweather is too greedy to share his loot. ^^^lol, look at this mother****er. https://www.fastcompany.com/1721184/netflix-now-boasts-more-subscribers-showtime-starz-hbo-next https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Showtime_(TV_network) Between January 2011 through at least July 2015, Showtime was able to pick up 10 million homes. At $11 per month (or $132 per home) you're looking at Showtime making almost $1.4m more in revenue than they were making in 2011. Showtime isn't putting up the money for Mayweather-McGregor because 1)it's a **** fight and 2)there's literally no way for them to make back their money . thought you were smarter than that

PPV supposed to supplement not be the main source of income for boxing. HBO uses boxing to get subscribers. The same way they use GOT to get subscribers. Boxing PPV is the only programming HBO can see an immediate profit from without relying on monthly subscriptions. Good post.

Now you so called boxing fans are worried what HBO got from the fight?