Canelo's chances against GGG and is GGG dwindling..

What are Canelo's chances against GGG after witnessing Brook's decent effort last night? Also, is GGG finally dwindling down in his career or has he always been overrated? Personally I have always thought Canelo has the tools to beat GGG. People always make it a point to mention Canelo's cement feet and GGG's ability to cut the ring off but honestly, when has anyone seen Canelo use foot speed and movement as a defense mechanism? I haven't. If anything he uses his upper body movement and head movement to slip and evade punches and he's rather damn good at doing so. Also, he has solid fundamentals, interesting feints and punches in bunches. He can work the inside rather well and operates effectively as a counterpuncher. Another thing I noticed was the fact that GGG has showed a liking for uppercuts and seems to have a hard time dealing with such punch, a punch that Canelo knows how to throw rather fcking well. Not to mention GGG's slow ass hand speed lol. Anyway, back to my original questions... Does anyone think GGG is actually slowing down? He didn't look as crisp and monstrous as he normally does and what makes matters worse is that he was fighting a former Welterweight whom was jumping up 2 divisions to fight him. I'm not saying he's not a powerful puncher, what I am saying is that he didn't look like the GGG we are so accustomed to seeing. He should have dealt with Brook much sooner and in a devastating fashion... But he didn't, I wonder why. So what was it? Was it GGG finally showing his age or was it the fact that he finally fought a decent opponent last night?

Comments (20)

deathofaclown

Canelo is nowhere near as good as Golden Boy/HBO make out when they're trying to make him into the "face of boxing". He's very good, don't get me wrong but he's not an elite fighter. I don't see anything in his skill set that allows him beat Golovkin. He might time the odd counter here and there and combination a la Brook, but Golovkin will get behind a stiff jab and break him down and Canelo will have nowhere to go with his flat feet. Also whoever said "well when have you seen Canelo use his feet, he uses upper body movement" - Well exactly, the last thing you want with Golovkin is to be stood infront of him. Canelo can use his upper body movement all he likes but some shots will get through because Golovkin's punch selection is usually very good. You may want to argue GGG is not elite going by his level of competition, but either way you're not beating him unless you are elite and Canelo is not. He's just very good. Canelo is not skillfull enough to not be the bully in the fight. It's an awful style for him and that's why they vacated. They probably know more than everyone on this forum and they know what they're looking at.

9y ago

icha

Canelo is a good boxer, has a head with the size of a watermelon. GGG keeps getting older, yes, Canelo also hits bigger than Brook. And Canelo is heavier than GGG. Anything can happen. My opinion is that GGG wins if they fight at 2017, but I dont trust the judges. If they fight at 2018 or 2019 canelo would be favoured because of age. some of your posts lately had been very decent, keep it up...:biggthump

9y ago

johny_joe_hdz

truth.. Thats the point i was trying to make though. GGG would walk him down and canelo wont go anywhere, hes going to be right there in front of him. GGG will break his body down over the course of the fight. Canelo likes to be the bully by outweighing everyone but he cant do that against GGG ,he would be the one getting bullied. Canelo can move his head all he wants, the body will still be there to be hit. And GGG has nasty body shots. And by the way GGG is more methodical than fast. He doesnt need to be that fast to be effective, he gradually breaks guys down with pressure. Canelo will be easy for him simply because he wont go anywhere. Dude..... you know your stuff man!!!!

9y ago

afterpunk

Canelo doesn`t have the energy or the mindset to throw enough punches to defeat Golovkin. He lands solid combinations and has underrated defensive skills, but he is a perfectionist. His punch output is too low. Make him work faster and he will get tired or he will commit mistakes. Golovkin's pace and rhythm are lethal.

9y ago

RussB23

Canelo is much harder to hit to the body than you make it seem. He steps/jumps back and slips and catches punches rather well. I seriously doubt GGG will have the succes you envision since his hand speed would be easy for Alvarez to foresee GGG's onslaught and thus find safety. Canelo doesn't pressure effectively nor does he use his size to his advantage in that specific regard. Is not like he walks his opponents down lol, he breaks them down through a stylistic approach. He doesn't tie up and at times fights to his opponents advantages since he tries to box all the time, even when he should be pressuring his opponent because he's getting outboxed himself. Im just saying GGG would come right to him and it would be a fight because everyone and thier momma knows that canelo has zero footwork. And im taking GGG all day in a firefight against canelo. Yeah i think canelo will have some success but will eventually get broken down. It will pretty much be a battle of whos stronger and who can outbully who. And i dont think canelo can outbully GGG

9y ago

TonyMontana

Canelo knocks out golovkin Just need Oscar to believe it

9y ago

TAKEOVER7209

Yes...it's a fact. Nope that's an opinion.

9y ago

_Maxi

Lol. So you're saying Alvarez can take his punches? Its easy to spot trolling, because unlike you, many of us give technical scenarios instead of you calling out an insecure outcome Canelo is a good boxer, has a head with the size of a watermelon. GGG keeps getting older, yes, Canelo also hits bigger than Brook. And Canelo is heavier than GGG. Anything can happen. My opinion is that GGG wins if they fight at 2017, but I dont trust the judges. If they fight at 2018 or 2019 canelo would be favoured because of age.

9y ago

Aztekkas

Thats the point i was trying to make though. GGG would walk him down and canelo wont go anywhere, hes going to be right there in front of him. GGG will break his body down over the course of the fight. Canelo likes to be the bully by outweighing everyone but he cant do that against GGG ,he would be the one getting bullied. Canelo can move his head all he wants, the body will still be there to be hit. And GGG has nasty body shots. And by the way GGG is more methodical than fast. He doesnt need to be that fast to be effective, he gradually breaks guys down with pressure. Canelo will be easy for him simply because he wont go anywhere. Canelo is much harder to hit to the body than you make it seem. He steps/jumps back and slips and catches punches rather well. I seriously doubt GGG will have the succes you envision since his hand speed would be easy for Alvarez to foresee GGG's onslaught and thus find safety. Canelo doesn't pressure effectively nor does he use his size to his advantage in that specific regard. Is not like he walks his opponents down lol, he breaks them down through a stylistic approach. He doesn't tie up and at times fights to his opponents advantages since he tries to box all the time, even when he should be pressuring his opponent because he's getting outboxed himself.

9y ago

IMDAZED

and how is he better than brook? Brook went up against a monster 2 weight classes above and was competitive for a short while. I have yet to see canelo move up even 5 pounds and be competitive with anyone. So Brook is better because he lost? Oh wait, he's better because he moved up. Guess we should take GGG off the pound for pound list in that case.

9y ago

daggum

9y ago

RussB23

Newsflash guys: Canelo is much better than Kell Brook in every category. I think some people will be shocked when he and GGG face off. and how is he better than brook? Brook went up against a monster 2 weight classes above and was competitive for a short while. I have yet to see canelo move up even 5 pounds and be competitive with anyone.

9y ago

Ekscape

Man I am so confident of Canelo beating GGG that I am going to make a big 'real money' wager on this fight in Canelo's favor... It may even be a lopsided fight honestly GGG better not even EVER think about fighting Ward or Kovalev, laughable

9y ago

TAKEOVER7209

I disagree. You have to be able to push him back or slip inside. He is very vulnerable when retreating, that is why I think Ward would have a field day. Of course he can be outboxed, too, but first and foremost you must be able to stop him on his tracks, get his respect. Ward is an elite boxer. Canelo is not.

9y ago

BBomber

You have to be an elite boxer to beat Golovkin. Canelo is not that. I disagree. You have to be able to push him back or slip inside. He is very vulnerable when retreating, that is why I think Ward would have a field day. Of course he can be outboxed, too, but first and foremost you must be able to stop him on his tracks, get his respect.

9y ago

TAKEOVER7209

Canelo is more "elite" than GGG. Nope not really.

9y ago

RussB23

People should watch Alvarez vs Cotto is they have any doubt of Alvarez's defensive IQ. Or kitty kat padding Khan. Khan missed wrecklessly Hes able to be good defensively because hes fighting smaller guys that cant hurt him, i wanna see his defensive IQ when GGG pressures him and touches his body. Hes gonna know really quick hes not facing a much smaller guy like khan that cant hurt him.

9y ago

TX_BOXNG

I think Nelo needs to come in trying to KO GGG early than make it a long war, GGG is the same beast all night, Nelo is a little faster so id say go for an early KO catch him early

9y ago

TAKEOVER7209

You have to be an elite boxer to beat Golovkin. Canelo is not that.

9y ago

RussB23

But again... When has Canelo ever used foot work as a defense mechanism? I have yet to see it... So why would he attempt to use it now? His upper body movement and head movement are pretty slick, just look at how he made Trout miss his flurries and made Cotto miss and pay as well. Fighters whom are much faster than GGG. Thats the point i was trying to make though. GGG would walk him down and canelo wont go anywhere, hes going to be right there in front of him. GGG will break his body down over the course of the fight. Canelo likes to be the bully by outweighing everyone but he cant do that against GGG ,he would be the one getting bullied. Canelo can move his head all he wants, the body will still be there to be hit. And GGG has nasty body shots. And by the way GGG is more methodical than fast. He doesnt need to be that fast to be effective, he gradually breaks guys down with pressure. Canelo will be easy for him simply because he wont go anywhere.

9y ago