If you are bound by the contract for a rematch it is of less consequence what network or venue the rematch happens in.. HBO/Main Events would be aware of this and especially Duva because she played the mandatory game with IBF costing Fury to vacate the title..
The 3 guys I mentioned haven't had so many fights as Ward/Kovalev.. They have turned pro in the last 2-3 yrs and have a lot of fight left in them. Ward has been a pro for 12yrs almost now and Kovalev did not turn pro until he was 27 which is about the time quite a few of the European based amateurs decide to go pro take Loma and GGG for example..
Kathy Duva, in her words and in her actions, has made it painfully clear, that her company's access to HBO is worth more than any fight/fighter. With Andre Ward owing nothing to anyone, Roc Nation Sports can take the Kovalev-Ward rematch and put the fight on the open market; if HBO brings the most money, so be it, but be clear that there not getting the fight for less than what the market views the fight being worth.
Golovkin turned pro at the age of 24; if you honestly think that every pro fighter who turns over late in their twenties is simply going to be able to be a world-level operator in the early 40's you're fooling yourself.
The human body is the human body, and basically the same for everyone; you're born, you develop, you continue to grow into your early 20s, you fill into your body through late 20s/early 30s, and the body declines from that point on, until something in the body goes wrong and you die.
Rigondeaux is 35 years old and still seems to look like he's on the top level; if you honestly believe that he has another five years of fighting in his body, I'd take that bet right now against you.
Stevenson is fighting Alvarez apparently, might be time to pass the gauntlet. The Colombian has got good speed and chin.
...and no power whatsoever for that kind of fight... I like Alvarez a lot, but he's not made of Champion material... Gonna make a nice living being quality warm up for better boxers and will keep himself in the top 10 list for a long time.
Stevenson should go through him easily enough...Not a walk in the park or a free ride... Still a good fight for a mando fight. We've seen worse mando fights from Kovalev (see Mohammedi...)
When Kovalev wins, he must fight Stevenson (which is a conplete mismatch, Chickenson is shot.. His last bum he fought landed on him so many times LOL). Beterbiev vs Gvozdyk vs Bivol vs Shabranskyy needs to happen.
They are pretty much at the top of the division. If one clearly wins with no need of a rematch, where does he go from there?
That is always pending on how the fight is.
If it is a barn burner the rematch is the biggest fight out there.
If it is a one sided the winner may go for Stevenson which at that point will be a bigger fight than before.
Pray that there are no head clashes that it gets stopped on a cut or a foul.
With Ward's deal with HBO finished, I doubt that Duva agrees to let Ward dictate the TV (which will leave her risking her company's relationship with HBO), putting the notion of a rematch in doubt.
Beyond that, Beterbiev is already 31, Gvodzyk is 29, and Bivol is 25; in 2-3 years the odds that two of your three are already on their way out isn't all that unheard of.
If you are bound by the contract for a rematch it is of less consequence what network or venue the rematch happens in.. HBO/Main Events would be aware of this and especially Duva because she played the mandatory game with IBF costing Fury to vacate the title..
The 3 guys I mentioned haven't had so many fights as Ward/Kovalev.. They have turned pro in the last 2-3 yrs and have a lot of fight left in them. Ward has been a pro for 12yrs almost now and Kovalev did not turn pro until he was 27 which is about the time quite a few of the European based amateurs decide to go pro take Loma and GGG for example..
Good Question! I don't consider 175 a good division by any stretch, it is Good at the Top with two Top P4P Talents already and loser will still be Top 5-10 P4P IMO with the winner being #1 but after them WTF is left? I don't put Stevenson in the same category with those guys, absolutely NOT and he is not getting any young. With that being said, Stevenson has looked excellent his last 2 fights so of course I want to see him vs the winner of this fight still but time is running out for him
It will be interesting though, I personally can't wait to see how that fight plays out but also the after effects!
If Ward wins then a definite rematch by contract; if Kovalev wins a close decision then a cry for rematch; if Kovalev wins by KO then he waits for the next WBA mandatory I guess..
In a couple of years when Ward and Kovalev are pretty much past their prime the next gen guys Gvodzyk, Bivol and Beterbiev will be earning their stripes for a title shot..
With Ward's deal with HBO finished, I doubt that Duva agrees to let Ward dictate the TV (which will leave her risking her company's relationship with HBO), putting the notion of a rematch in doubt.
Beyond that, Beterbiev is already 31, Gvodzyk is 29, and Bivol is 25; in 2-3 years the odds that two of your three are already on their way out isn't all that unheard of.
They are pretty much at the top of the division. If one clearly wins with no need of a rematch, where does he go from there?
Roc Nation has no issue with Showtime, Andre Ward is free of HBO after the Kovalev fight, and Kathy Duva's actions have made it utterly clear that she's not up for negotiating the fight.
Ward goes to Showtime, set the stage for the fight for early 2017/summer 2017 on SHOPPV/Canadian PPV (depending on any possible hangups about mandatory challengers, which I doubt).
If Ward wins that fight, he's got all of the belts, is the kingpin of 175, and arguably the money fight at the weight class (with the likely backing of MGM Resorts/Barclays Center/Oracle Arena).
With money being at a premium, I have no doubt that Showtime's commitment to boxing, in addition to the various 175 fighters in their orbit, sways the deal for Ward/Roc Nation.
They are pretty much at the top of the division. If one clearly wins with no need of a rematch, where does he go from there?
Winner fights Stevenson, and Betterbeaver in no particular order!!
Kovelev called Adonis a chicken and ran from his own post fight interview the second he saw Stevenson.:lol1:
I've never seen that.
He just gave Stevenson the mic.you're delusional and clueless as always.after kovalev called chickenson a puzzy in his own hometown he stood there he didn't run it was chickenson who was doing the whole fake hold me back routine.
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I wonder why people still think boxers have anything to do with dealing fights... :dunno:
Anyway... Next year's gonna be my guy's year ... ;)
If Ward wins then a definite rematch by contract; if Kovalev wins a close decision then a cry for rematch; if Kovalev wins by KO then he waits for the next WBA mandatory I guess..
In a couple of years when Ward and Kovalev are pretty much past their prime the next gen guys Gvodzyk, Bivol and Beterbiev will be earning their stripes for a title shot..
If Ward wins, his HBO contract is fulfilled and he can hopefully jump over to fight Stevenson on PBC. He'll probably take a less stellar fight in between.
If Kovalev wins, then there will be a short term outcry for a Stevenson unification and a better chance than has yet existed to make the fight. The main reason Duva walked away from the purse bid was almost definitely to avoid risking the Ward fight, and Stevenson has absolutely no reason to avoid Kovalev anymore. I still don't think it happens, though.
LHW has some up and comers to take on in the near future, so we'll keep an eye out for them.