I have to ask why some of you mfers hate him. Dude has fought everyone, is it because he lost some? Cotto has been one of my favorites since he came on the scene. He had a hell of a fight with some of you guys god Mayweather, went on to win the fukin lineal MW championship of the world. I wont dispute any fight he has lost because he lost them but he never got his ass kicked aside from Paq. he is one of the great fighters of this era, Im astounded he doesnt get the credit.
I guess someone is going to bring up the first Margarito fight and if you do god help you. If you think Marg didnt have his wraps stacked that fight you need to never fukin post here again.
Margarito was caught with plaster in his next fight and never knocked out anyone again........
Not a shred of proof he cheated against Cotto. However.....I firmly believe he did. Why would he go in against Cotto as almost even without cheating, but cheat (attempted) against Mosely who if I'm not mistaken he was favors against? I always liked Margs, but his "I didn't know nothing" excuse never sat well with me. As a fighter at any level, you know if you're doing something illegal.
Sing this with me:
TRANSLATION: I will try to distract from my own ridiculous assertions in this thread with (unfunny) humor.
I ain't even mad. Do you.
I had to go out of town the next day after posting this. I wanted to give my appreciation for Cotto for the record I guess because he is one of my favorites and I got caught up talking **** to some dumb ass dksab mfers along the way. You aint gotta like him but you cant really take anything away from him unless you are a straight hater or almost full on retard. The dude has put it down from jump. You can throw the diva **** out there if you want and I cant argue with that but most of them go that way. He fought the fights against the scary mfers out there and he won more than he lost. The night he beat Martinez will always be one of my favorite fights I watched live because I didnt think he was going to win. It matters to you maybe that Martinez supposedly wasnt healthy coming in to that fight. That wasnt the line on fight night, Martinez was suppose to be 100% and he blew him out. We can argue about his place as an ATG but that wasnt my point. He is one of the greats of this era and there is no argument there, unless your bias has blinded you.
Let it go, man. It's been over for a while now.
Don't let this loss destroy you. You can bounce back from it. Just try to verify what you're debating, before you debate it.
I'm sorry I did this to you,
But I had to.
Lmao are you retarded?
lol; you're not going to fool anybody into thinking that I didn't already extensively counter your claim as to Cotto's losses. All they have to do is go back and read.
You're just upset that you were out-debated, twice, starting with the actual debate topic on hand, resumes, before you attempted to switch topics and were out-debated yet again, but I'm not the type to let things turn into an insult-game.
I debate, I own, I win, and I go.
This debate is over; let it go.
Victory is mine.
You did it to yourself by arguing for something out emotion, rather than facts.
Deal with it.:lol1:
Exhibit E.
Takes a special kind of overzealous Cotto fan self-delusion to believe that somehow Cotto having a 'better resume' (which he doesn't) actually has meaning when comparing him to 2 fighters who beat his azz.
If self-declaring yourself the 'winner' of a 'debate' that only you find means anything at all helps you hold that L, then please continue to do you.
To recap:
Planet Reality: Floyd Mayeather UD Cotto (117-111, 117-111. 118-110)
Pacquiao KO Cotto
SunSpace: 'But Cotto's resume, doe!'
This right here.
IMO, a lot of the critique thrown at Cotto is based on the fact that his fans continue to insist that his name gets mentioned with the true ATGs of his era (Mayweather, Pacquiao) when he's not on their level as far as skill, ability or accomplishment.
Like I said before, in a Peyton Manning/Tom Brady Era, he's the Drew Brees: great career and surefire HOF, but not a generational fighter.
And having his fans make excuses for his (at times) diva like behavior hasn't helped either.
I like that comparison
Cotto is my favorite fighter and IMH top 3 PR boxer of all times.
The Cotto vs Sergio debate was insane on the board. Dudes gave Miguel no chance. The, when Cotto destroyed him they were no were to be found. lol
HOF first pick! Haters will hate!!!
Lol that's boxing fans for ya
if the former lineal MW Champion fights that midget Gamboa in his next fight, imma talk sh1t
So will I. Screen shot this. I may very well disown him. And certainly won't be watching it
Cause cotto is a diva. The way he did Martinez dirty really made me mad. The way he quit against Margarito in fight 1, then the way he talked about leading up to fight 2 talking all soft and crying about health first, etc. When you're making millions a fight, you need to be a warrior
Cotto quit the Marg 1 fight after 11-12 rounds of brutalality. Only after he was plummeted did he quit. None of us here would have lasted 3. Most other boxers wouldn't have lasted 6. Someone here pointed out recently that margarito didn't knock anyone since cotto. True. Too bad he needed assistance in his kos
Use to be a big fan until he turned into a diva.
Lest not forget that cotto was only doing what was done to him by manny and Floyd. When it came for cottos time to dictate he did what he did to maximize his profits. This was on the tail end of his career. I understand some of he to stuff he did was girly. But not as girly as manny and Floyd. That said Floyd manny and angel are the richest guys in boxing today so I choose to ignore the diva antics only because if I was similarly situated I'd do the same to line my pockets. I suspect all here would do the same.
always been a big fan. through his wins and losses he's learned throughout. became an even bigger fan after he learned that he should get his paper up and get out from under arum. a warrior who took jayz to the cleaners, miggy cotto. people talk about divas and all this other bs but what those people fail to mention is that if leverage is afforded in negotiations and are there for your benefit, if you don't use them, you're an idiot-plain and simple.
Cause cotto is a diva. The way he did Martinez dirty really made me mad. The way he quit against Margarito in fight 1, then the way he talked about leading up to fight 2 talking all soft and crying about health first, etc. When you're making millions a fight, you need to be a warrior
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Yyyeeeaaaahhhhh!
In little Jon voice.
Would have Greent you but wasn't allowed. Next time
Except you're the one here without an actual argument, or anything at all, for that matter, to refute my stance.
The reason you can't find anything is because I'm simply right:
Cotto has the better resume.
Debate over.
Exhibit D.
Typical Cotto stan. Wants to 'debate' about Cotto having a better resume than May/Pac (and he doesn't) when we've seen both of them beat his (allegedly) better-resume-having azz.
Seriously, please explain why you think having a better resume is of any significance in a discussion where we've actually seen those guys in the ring together. And your guy is holding those L's.
This is classic 'fan-of-the-loser' logic. This is the equivalent of wanting to argue about strength of schedule and better conference after your favorite college team got its azz beat in a Bowl game.
One word: SCORECARD.
Cotto's not on their level. Deal with it.
Sad, sad, sad.
I have to ask why some of you mfers hate him. Dude has fought everyone, is it because he lost some? Cotto has been one of my favorites since he came on the scene. He had a hell of a fight with some of you guys god Mayweather, went on to win the fukin lineal MW championship of the world. I wont dispute any fight he has lost because he lost them but he never got his ass kicked aside from Paq. he is one of the great fighters of this era, Im astounded he doesnt get the credit.
I guess someone is going to bring up the first Margarito fight and if you do god help you. If you think Marg didnt have his wraps stacked that fight you need to never fukin post here again.
Here you go homie enjoy!
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