Why is the MW division considered a "weak" division?

It's considered weak to facilitate their lies just like they trash the cruiserweight division and give the cruisers absolutely no props whatsoever even though that is easily the best division in boxing right now so ask yourself why in hells name is none of those top guys in the P4P? Bias boxing politics. I think you're the biased one. You overrate the cruiserweight division brcause there are lots of Eastern Europeans there. No way cruiserweight is "easily" the best division in boxing. Bellew got trashed by Stevenson and is now a champion at cruiserweight. Lebedev lost to Cunningham. The cruiserweights are alright, but saying it is the best division in boxing is biased on your part.

It's probably not the best division out there, it's certainly not the weakest though. GGG a-side, i think the other ranked guys are close in ability. They would make for good fights IMO. I'd like to see Jacobs Vs BJS / Lem / Eubank. Lem Vs Eubank or BJS. If Canelo is going to move up to the full 160 after his fight with Smith..then i'd enjoy seeing him face all of the above. 160 reminds of 147 and to a lesser extent HW, where there are good fights to be made..but for one reason or another, we're not seeing them for the most part.

What you said made absolutely no sense. The fact that the match ups don't get made has nothing to do with how good they are as fighters. What fights not involving ggg would you be interested to see at 160? GGG Vs Jacobs GGG Vs Quillin GGG Vs Lee GGG Vs Canelo GGG Vs. BJS GGG Vs Eubank Jr

It's considered weak to facilitate their lies just like they trash the cruiserweight division and give the cruisers absolutely no props whatsoever even though that is easily the best division in boxing right now so ask yourself why in hells name is none of those top guys in the P4P? Bias boxing politics.

154 lb rankings 1. Erislandy Lara 2. Canelo Alvarez 3. Miguel Cotto 4. Demetrius Andrade 5. Jermall Charlo 6. Jermell Charlo 7. Liam Smith 8. Austin Trout 9. Charles Hatley 10. Alfredo Angulo 11. Cornelius Bundrage 12. Sergey Rabchenko 13. Jack Culcay 14. Erickson Lubin 15. Vanes Martirosyan 16. Julian Williams

I quoted you that you said they're not interested in fighting each other because they're garbage. Maybe you wrote it wrong but it's not how I feel there's a lot of reason why match ups never gets made. There's a few fights I would love to see. Bjs vs Jacobs I would like to see bjs rematch eubank again because I think eubank will do better. Lemieux vs Jacob would be an explosive fight heck I would like to see eubank vs Lemieux. But then that goes for every division. There's only a few fights people would be interested in and the other fights are just fillers. That's not what I meant. I was talking about possible match ups. I wouldn't pay for Jacobs vs Saunders. I wouldn't even stream it. The only ones I like at 160 besides GGG are Eubank and Derevyanchenko and he's still a prospect. Not much there.

What you said made absolutely no sense. The fact that the match ups don't get made has nothing to do with how good they are as fighters. What fights not involving ggg would you be interested to see at 160? I quoted you that you said they're not interested in fighting each other because they're garbage. Maybe you wrote it wrong but it's not how I feel there's a lot of reason why match ups never gets made. There's a few fights I would love to see. Bjs vs Jacobs I would like to see bjs rematch eubank again because I think eubank will do better. Lemieux vs Jacob would be an explosive fight heck I would like to see eubank vs Lemieux. But then that goes for every division. There's only a few fights people would be interested in and the other fights are just fillers.

By your logic everyone at 154 is garbage. So much potential match up but we get Canelo smith, Andrade culcay, and Lara vanes rematch. Are they garbage too because they won't fight each other? What you said made absolutely no sense. The fact that the match ups don't get made has nothing to do with how good they are as fighters. What fights not involving ggg would you be interested to see at 160?

If the guys at 160 were good barring GGG, those who defend it would be interested in other fighters in the division. But they don't because they're garbage. By your logic everyone at 154 is garbage. So much potential match up but we get Canelo smith, Andrade culcay, and Lara vanes rematch. Are they garbage too because they won't fight each other?

154 have more interesting match up because those guys are closer in skill level and 160 only have 4 legit contenders. The fact that ggg is head and shoulders above everyone in that division make it seem like everyone else is garbage which isn't the case. Doesn't even matter if 154 have more interesting match up. The reality is 3 of the top 5 won't fight each other and canelo isnt going to stay at 154 after his Smith fight so a lot of the potential matchup we might get won't happen. If the guys at 160 were good barring GGG, those who defend it would be interested in other fighters in the division. But they don't because they're garbage.

My question is which division would have the better fights. Besides ggg, which fights are there at 160? 154 have more interesting match up because those guys are closer in skill level and 160 only have 4 legit contenders. The fact that ggg is head and shoulders above everyone in that division make it seem like everyone else is garbage which isn't the case. Doesn't even matter if 154 have more interesting match up. The reality is 3 of the top 5 won't fight each other and canelo isnt going to stay at 154 after his Smith fight so a lot of the potential matchup we might get won't happen.

I would favor eubank Jacobs and bjs over anyone at 154 besides Andrade and probably Jrock. My question is which division would have the better fights. Besides ggg, which fights are there at 160?

Leave ggg and canelo out of this and you know that PFP 154 is levels above 160, and is much more deep..

No way middleweight is one of the better divisions. What interesting fights are there at 160 besides GGG? I would favor eubank Jacobs and bjs over anyone at 154 besides Andrade and probably Jrock.

I discussed a few years ago how divisions like MW wouldn't undergo any significant changes but would see eastern euro champions and thus become "weak" in the eyes of US fans. It is going how i called it. It didn't take much research; I just watched the same thing happen from hw, cw, lhw, on down... Every division became "weak". I would say MW right now is one of the better divisions but the Canelo/Cotto charade with the lineal belt and other MWs generally avoiding GGG has made that talent sit around stagnant. No way middleweight is one of the better divisions. What interesting fights are there at 160 besides GGG?

I'm a huge Lara fan, but he's an underdog against GGG. And I dont think he wants the fight. Jermell is not moving up, and I'm still not sure if Jermall will. If he doesn't move after the Williams fight I say he's scared. Andrade and Jermall are the only two I see having a chance against GGG. Lara's called out golovkin numerous times...and charlo scared??? The biggest fight for him right now is at 154, he doesn't have a reason to move up yet.

I discussed a few years ago how divisions like MW wouldn't undergo any significant changes but would see eastern euro champions and thus become "weak" in the eyes of US fans. It is going how i called it. It didn't take much research; I just watched the same thing happen from hw, cw, lhw, on down... Every division became "weak". I would say MW right now is one of the better divisions but the Canelo/Cotto charade with the lineal belt and other MWs generally avoiding GGG has made that talent sit around stagnant.

What? Lol jermel and Lara make weight just fine. Jermall will prob move up soon. But even then who's to say he'll get a shot at gg. Hell gg fans were saying how Lara needs to prove himself at 160 first. But kell doesn't I'm a huge Lara fan, but he's an underdog against GGG. And I dont think he wants the fight. Jermell is not moving up, and I'm still not sure if Jermall will. If he doesn't move after the Williams fight I say he's scared. Andrade and Jermall are the only two I see having a chance against GGG.

:haha::haha::haha: fvck outta' here with that garbage. I'm not a golovtard, chill. But I don't think many guys at 154 could beat him.

:haha::haha::haha: fvck outta' here with that garbage. I'm not a golovtard, chill. But I don't think many guys at 160 could beat him.