Nate Diaz is all over US talk shows, all over the news. MMA has over taken boxing :(

Unfortunately it seems that boxing's lack of great fights and stars, due to Floyd's handling of his time at the top and the damp squib that was Pac-May, has caused UFC to really over take boxing. Their brand is now far stronger than boxing I think, and they're getting all the shine. Can any American lads speak about the relative hype surrounding each sport on average in the USA?So basically this is just another "blame Floyd" thread made by a Pac fan. MMA will never be as big as boxing.

Boxing orgs, and the fans, destroyed this sport. Corrupt and rotten alphabet organizations have sapped this once great sport for all of it's worth - and accordingly, people are shifting their focus to the new hit thing. Fans need to find a way to reverse the tide - and that starts with speaking with your wallet. Follow exciting fighters and young prospects intently. Don't hand over money for garbage fights. The only way to stop craptastic things like Wilder beating up on everyone's fat grandma, is to not turn up and not watch it. PEOPLE POWER!

The amazing part is how they generated Diaz vs McGregor almost out of no where. There was no long winded process. Mcgregor needed a last min opponent and took the fight 15 pounds above his scheduled fight. Who the **** does that? Could you imagine if Mayweather had a fight schedule for 150 and then a week before the fight he gets an opponent change and accepts the fight at 165? Guys like McGregor play with house money and just don't give a ****. Yeah for real that takes some gigantic balls I was rooting for Nate the first time but for the rematch I had to give support to Conor that guy has more nuts to him than anyone in boxing you just wont ever see any top guy in our sport do what he did maybe the lower guys who have nothing to lose but not the top dogs like Ward, Kovalev, GGG etc... I wish we could have some top guys in the sport who were like that Fury is basically a trashy fat pikey boring idiotic version of Conor.

You have to take into consideration this was a complete classic that we witnessed last night it was up there with Gatti and Ward and I don't care how diehard you are as a boxing fan Conor McGregor Vs Nate Diaz 2 was an absolute action packed great fight. It's crazy because the rematch generated so much attention Imagine If they do it a third time after how great the fight was I mean could they apply even more viewings the safe bet is probably yes. The amazing part is how they generated Diaz vs McGregor almost out of no where. There was no long winded process. Mcgregor needed a last min opponent and took the fight 15 pounds above his scheduled fight. Who the **** does that? Could you imagine if Mayweather had a fight schedule for 150 and then a week before the fight he gets an opponent change and accepts the fight at 165? Guys like McGregor play with house money and just don't give a ****.

Boxing lack structure and real sporting integrity. It's inexcusable that guys like Broner and Garcia are refusing to fight someone like Pacquiao, Canelo wanting to wait to fight GGG while fighting in mismatches, top 5 fighters only fighting 1-2 times a year etc.

How do you guys propose boxing gets fixed? What are the main problems? Fighters being too free? Too many meaningless belts? Weight classes? Promoters too involved? Fighters afraid? What is it? Too easy for powerful figures to flout the rules, both promoters and fighters. The belts are a big part of it. Can be picked up or ditched at will by the biggest players. Ultimately, if there's no competitive structure you don't have a real sport. What boxing needs to be is kind of obvious, an authority that will enforce that competitive system. One champ per division, the champ faces the top challengers. How to get there is the hard question.

How do you guys propose boxing gets fixed? What are the main problems? Fighters being too free? Too many meaningless belts? Weight classes? Promoters too involved? Fighters afraid? What is it? The network and promotional issues are a mess. The business is greedy and corrupt. I don't know how that can be fixed. You have so many people involved. Having one champ per division would be great. There are people on this site who follow that stuff more though and can input more. I'm aware of the problems, but anymore I just try to focus on the fighters and fights.

The business model which has dominated boxing for the past 2 decades is bust. The sport needs to change. Totally agree with that, It would be very nice If these belts all these silly belts would start to go down in numbers and the people in charge force fights and If the fighter doesn't take it they lose their ranking completely. It's going to be so difficult to fix boxing and make it better because it definitely deserves to be up there as one of the major sports it's just as you've pretty much sort of said it's been in bad hands.

You have to take into consideration this was a complete classic that we witnessed last night it was up there with Gatti and Ward and I don't care how diehard you are as a boxing fan Conor McGregor Vs Nate Diaz 2 was an absolute action packed great fight. It's crazy because the rematch generated so much attention Imagine If they do it a third time after how great the fight was I mean could they apply even more viewings the safe bet is probably yes. I see myself as a boxing fan first but I love what the UFC are doing I didn't always use to be for it but I've slowly become to really appreciate what they're doing the only way boxing can really realistically compete Is If the boxers start to man up and stop being so greedy and If the promoters actually start to properly work together and stop building guys up for huge falls example being Adrien Broner, Andre Berto and Kelly Pavlik. The business model which has dominated boxing for the past 2 decades is bust. The sport needs to change.

MMA should become an olympic sport.

The nature of boxing has certainly hurt itself, and you can argue MMA is more popular, sure. I just don't get the point of debating. Look, I want boxing to clean itself up because I'm a fan. Not because I'm concerned about MMA being more popular. Football is bigger than them all here in the US. Soccer is huge around the globe. What does it matter? Boxing is still king to me. People will watch what they want. It doesn't matter to me. Boxing isn't going anywhere.

Wouldn't say so. Why? It's just a solid matchup and it's vs Conor is the main man in combat sports right now. Boxing promoters methods of promotion are just so archaic right now. Their social media presence is abysmal, their video production is poor...why don't they hire someone like a Gorilla Productions to help make some videos to hype the event up? Cheap as ****, he does it on the free anyway lol. Where are their embedded-esque videos? Where are fighter vlogs? Why don't they use Boxing Forums? I refuse to believe the likes of Keith Thurman, can't do way more in terms of making money for each event they participate in. Check out the way the UFC promotes their big events, no Boxing promoter does that. The likes of Eddie Hearn does well in the UK through collab'ing with IFLTV but even then, they are limited compared to what the UFC does.

Unfortunately it seems that boxing's lack of great fights and stars, due to Floyd's handling of his time at the top and the damp squib that was Pac-May, has caused UFC to really over take boxing. Their brand is now far stronger than boxing I think, and they're getting all the shine. Can any American lads speak about the relative hype surrounding each sport on average in the USA? You have to take into consideration this was a complete classic that we witnessed last night it was up there with Gatti and Ward and I don't care how diehard you are as a boxing fan Conor McGregor Vs Nate Diaz 2 was an absolute action packed great fight. It's crazy because the rematch generated so much attention Imagine If they do it a third time after how great the fight was I mean could they apply even more viewings the safe bet is probably yes. I see myself as a boxing fan first but I love what the UFC are doing I didn't always use to be for it but I've slowly become to really appreciate what they're doing the only way boxing can really realistically compete Is If the boxers start to man up and stop being so greedy and If the promoters actually start to properly work together and stop building guys up for huge falls example being Adrien Broner, Andre Berto and Kelly Pavlik.

UFC is a huge brand, but it's unquestionably the McGregor effect. He has raised it to another level.

UFC is a brand, it's own league, it has structure. The owners have a mandate to keep making that brand stronger and grow it's fanbase, and all their fighters are tied down to that one promoter, so they can't refuse to make the biggest fights possible, it goes against their agenda. As another poster said, they have a high turnover of fighters with many different styles to mix and match, to produce the best fights consistently, you can make your bones fast if you can generate hype and momentum quickly, you don't need to be 10+ years in the game before you headline your first PPV if the fans want it, and they'll pay for it too because they're fans of the BRAND not just specific fighters, they'll support regardless. They also get value for money with stacked undercards. Whereas boxing is too fragmented, promotion wise, organization wise, it's pretty much the wild west and is free market, neo-liberal capitalism in action. There's no loyalty to the sport as whole because there isn't one unifying umbrella company that oversees the entire sport, just a bunch of disparate states breaking bread with one and other at their convenience to the detriment of fans overall. Boxing will not die, but it needs to clean up its act fast. This new generation of combat sport fans are losing interest, when these baby boomers die out we'll see where boxing stands. Great post. 100% right. Boxing will never die. But continuing to exist isn't much to brag about. And the fragmentation is the core problem in the sport. It is keeping the sport in the dark ages, in organisational and promotional terms.

UFC is a brand, it's own league, it has structure. The owners have a mandate to keep making that brand stronger and grow it's fanbase, and all their fighters are tied down to that one promoter, so they can't refuse to make the biggest fights possible, it goes against their agenda. As another poster said, they have a high turnover of fighters with many different styles to mix and match, to produce the best fights consistently, you can make your bones fast if you can generate hype and momentum quickly, you don't need to be 10+ years in the game before you headline your first PPV if the fans want it, and they'll pay for it too because they're fans of the BRAND not just specific fighters, they'll support regardless. They also get value for money with stacked undercards. Whereas boxing is too fragmented, promotion wise, organization wise, it's pretty much the wild west and is free market, neo-liberal capitalism in action. There's no loyalty to the sport as whole because there isn't one unifying umbrella company that oversees the entire sport, just a bunch of disparate states breaking bread with one and other at their convenience to the detriment of fans overall. Boxing will not die, but it needs to clean up its act fast. This new generation of combat sport fans are losing interest, when these baby boomers die out we'll see where boxing stands.

Unfortunately it seems that boxing's lack of great fights and stars, due to Floyd's handling of his time at the top and the damp squib that was Pac-May, has caused UFC to really over take boxing. Their brand is now far stronger than boxing I think, and they're getting all the shine. Can any American lads speak about the relative hype surrounding each sport on average in the USA? You think it's Floyd's fault? He has done more for boxing's popularity than just about any other boxing star since the 90's. It's boxing as a whole, and the business men behind it. Floyd has very little to do with the problems boxing has with the way it handles fighters and their PR and media. UFC is just more up with current stuff, and they need to be because they still arent competing with boxing in terms of big PPV's. Getting there, but not yet. Boxing could take a leaf from their book though.

The attendance was of 15,539 and the gate was of $7,692,010... which gives an average of $495 / ticket... Was it bad? :) That's exactly what I read...don't care enough to know if it's good or bad

i think the fact that there are so many threads right now on boxingscene about the UFC show, really tells a story of the state of boxing at the moment. Conor McGregor is a media machine though and I think tonight's epic battle will only propel both fighters higher and with that the UFC with it. Boxing in the past few years has done the complete opposite - create fake fighters and get them to fool the world into thinking that they are true warrior champions ....FFS its 2016, its no longer the early 2000s like what they did in Germany having their champs fight unknown bums (similar to Canelo, etc). Silly, but the reality is boxing is probably at a point of it being too late to even try and come back. UFC will be the #1 mainstream combat sport very soon. I think people who start mma topics on a boxing forum should be banned.

It's disappointing, in this place they also feel this is front page news on what is supposed to be a boxing website.