Broner isn't a counter puncher. He's either punching or defending. He doesn't transition from one into the other with counters. He doesn't use the opponents mistakes or aggression against them to counter with. That's just simply not how he fights best. He can, but not very effectively. He's essentially a come forward pressure fighter. He doesn't fight well off the back foot and doesn't fight well on the counter. He is best when he's coming forward, pressuring, and throwing when he wants to, which is when the opponent stops throwing themselves and usually moving back.
He also doesn't hit much harder than Floyd. When he has stepped up his comp to a Floyd level, he hasn't stopped many, if any of those opponents. When Floyd was fighting Broner's level of opposition at 130-140, he was stopping all of them just as easily.
If you're impressed by Broner stopping guys like Escobedo, Litzau and Perez, you need to go watch what Floyd does to those level of guys in his 130 days. I think he does hit harder, but it's certainly not by much and even that could be argued.
Anyway, from what we've seen of Broner so far, Hatton would win.
I seen every Floyd fight ever...So don't presume to know more about the man.
First of all Broner does not fight good going forward at all...his work rate suffers and he looks bad...He fights best in the pocket and that is a well known fact.
Broner doesn't counter well? Seriously? They weren't counter uppercuts and right hands destroying Khabib all night? And before you write off Khabib lets remember everyone thought he beat Vargas including myself. And seriously his check hook that he banks 90% of fights on isn't a counter? How many times was Paulie buckled by it? C'mon man, he's a lazy inactive *******, who would rather shake his head after you run off a combination than return fire but the skill and talent is fu(king obvious and this mob mentality on here of acting like it isn't is getting to pathetic levels.
Floyd doesn't hit near as hard as Broner..He's never dropped anyone as sturdy as Porter in his career. He couldn't even buckle Gatti while having a field day on him. Also Floyd lands clearer than anyone
You know people have no idea about Ricky Hatton when there is any question about him beating Adrien Broner. He not only wins, he beats the living hell out of Broner.
Except Broner actually does his best work in the pocket. Ricky might win but he's eating a lot of hard counter in the process and Broner hits way harder than Floyd.
Broner isn't a counter puncher. He's either punching or defending. He doesn't transition from one into the other with counters. He doesn't use the opponents mistakes or aggression against them to counter with. That's just simply not how he fights best. He can, but not very effectively. He's essentially a come forward pressure fighter. He doesn't fight well off the back foot and doesn't fight well on the counter. He is best when he's coming forward, pressuring, and throwing when he wants to, which is when the opponent stops throwing themselves and usually moving back.
He also doesn't hit much harder than Floyd. When he has stepped up his comp to a Floyd level, he hasn't stopped many, if any of those opponents. When Floyd was fighting Broner's level of opposition at 130-140, he was stopping all of them just as easily.
If you're impressed by Broner stopping guys like Escobedo, Litzau and Perez, you need to go watch what Floyd does to those level of guys in his 130 days. I think he does hit harder, but it's certainly not by much and even that could be argued.
Anyway, from what we've seen of Broner so far, Hatton would win.
Prime Hatton would be way too much for Broner.
His prime was very short though, but at his beat, he was an excellent fighter at 140.
Broner hasn't got the skills to deal with that pressure and mauling style.
Man.... Broner hits very hard and can counter-punch very well...
I could see Hatton generally controlling the action with Broner stopping him in the 8th. Hatton just didn't have a good guise against a hard-hitting counter puncher
Yeah against bums. Porter aint ****ing with prime Ricky, and Prime Ricky swarms FAR worse than Porter does.
Broner certainly has the tools to catch and hurt hatton...but we've seen broner clam up and do nothing when facing a lot of pressure and thats what hatton'll bring
Except Broner actually does his best work in the pocket. Ricky might win but he's eating a lot of hard counter in the process and Broner hits way harder than Floyd.
Except isn't nearly as fast, disciplined, elusive, and cannot adapt like Floyd at all.
Hatton would make it an ugly fight like he tried to do with Floyd. Broner isn't good enough to keep him off him. Maidana and Porter were able to push him around and Hatton would do the same. Ricky by TKO. Would have been a fun fight to watch though.
Wait so you can name call a world champion but I can't do it to you?
No people score fights like Ponce Vs Broner skewered as fu(k because the second Ponce starts having more success than he's "supposed" to they start scoring rounds for him. That is just the truth and it's the same thing that happened with Paulie.
I don't score punches that don't land on the head, I don't score them for Pacquiao and I don't score them for Paulie... he did a lot of work yes...But almost none of it clean and actually point scoring, why is it that when Broner catches punches on his gloves the opponent is being "active" but when others do it it's good defense? Compare and contrast that To Trout vs Canelo were Trout's punches were actually landing(albeit with pathetic power) but Canelo landed the bigger ****s. I actually watched that fight about a week ago and after previously having it 7-5 Broner...it was wider on a second viewing.
I'm not a Broner fanboy...I don't think he could go on a clean out the divisions to 154 or anything..But the horse***** spouted around here as if the man somehow talked himself into the elite part of the sport and doesn't have nasty hand speed,power and combinations is absurd.
Could he beat Ricky Hatton? I don't know. What I would bet on is that Hatton doesn't hit harder than Maidana and mostly likely won't bring that workrate. However Ricky didn't fight like Chino in fact he fights more like Gavin Rees fought Broner with a constant in and out motion....
Can Broner time him coming in? Yeah I think so, But Ricky was no joke.
To suggest the two are levels apart is simply ignorant, just ask yourself how Ricky would perform and Porter or Maidana and you'll see that.
I don't see where I name called him just stated Hatton was levels above him and he lost a lot of very disputed fights to C level opposition.
So you don't count bodyshots?
Well 7-5 is razor thin so not sure why you'd get upset someone could see it for Paulie maybe if I rewatched I'd see a different outcome/score as I very often do to watching fights live. By your own admission it was a close, close fight.
I recall Paulie landing a ton of leather to the body throwing 4-5 combinations and finishing upstairs whilst Broner proceeded to do bare minimal but shake his head no and laughably claim he couldn't hit him throwing the odd lead right hand once Paulie was done throwing.
The Ponce fight - The HBO were d*ck riding him and even they had him losing that fight. The Paulie fight I can see why some might of had Broner winning but not here, I think it was a clear bad decision.
Even if you have him winning he should not be going tooth & nail continually with guys like a seriously shot Paulie, Taylor and even struggling against Carlos Molina (the terrible one).
People seem to forget how fast Hatton's feet were, hell his footspeed & pressure was even giving prime Floyd problems. He was very fast & had a ridiculous engine at 140 before everything took its toll and a vicious body assault. I don't see Broner the tools or smarts to stop him getting inside continually and beating the hell out of him. Broner is not comfortable inside and has shown time & time again he needs time too think and space, a static target that stays in front of him he is not comfortable up close against a guy throwing volume and stepping across showing him angles.
We're talking a prime Ricky Hatton here too at 140 but I think a lot only seem to just remember him from getting dissected by Floyd and obliterated by Manny both of which are leagues above Broner in everyway, shape & form.
Everytime Broner has stepped up he has lost in my eyes (or at least gone life & death) his best win is like Ashley Theophane or a seriously past it Paulie. He's not even beat what I'd consider a B fighter.
Feel as though it is a fight Broner should win on paper but would end up losing, like his fight with Shawn Porter. He'd end up losing on points because he would get out worked and out muscled.
If he committed himself to fighting his opponent, I think it'd look like Mayweather vs Chavez. It wouldn't happen because Broner fights with a sense of entitlement.
Rickey Hatton would beat the living dog **** out of that boy lol I don't think he'd finish him because he doesn't hit much harder then Maidana if at all but he's a terrible style match up for Broner. Broner has no foot work and would just stand in front of Rickey letting him be right where he wants. Hatton clinch, body punch, and work Broner probably pretty bad en route to an comfortable decision.
Except Broner actually does his best work in the pocket. Ricky might win but he's eating a lot of hard counter in the process and Broner hits way harder than Floyd.
What is with the name calling?
People score fights based on different criteria's and I assure you many, vast majority of boxing fans & pundits had Broner losing those fights especially the Ponce fight. In fact I think you're the only person I've ever seen seem too think Broner won that one.
Paulie also had a very strong case for winning depending on how you score fights he outworked and outlanded Broner in virtually every round & by a large margin too.
I will always favour a guy forcing the fight, outworking and outlanding a guy content on sitting back doing bare minimal, throwing single shots & landing only the odd headsnapping shot here & there.
Wait so you can name call a world champion but I can't do it to you?
No people score fights like Ponce Vs Broner skewered as fu(k because the second Ponce starts having more success than he's "supposed" to they start scoring rounds for him. That is just the truth and it's the same thing that happened with Paulie.
I don't score punches that don't land on the head, I don't score them for Pacquiao and I don't score them for Paulie... he did a lot of work yes...But almost none of it clean and actually point scoring, why is it that when Broner catches punches on his gloves the opponent is being "active" but when others do it it's good defense? Compare and contrast that To Trout vs Canelo were Trout's punches were actually landing(albeit with pathetic power) but Canelo landed the bigger ****s. I actually watched that fight about a week ago and after previously having it 7-5 Broner...it was wider on a second viewing.
I'm not a Broner fanboy...I don't think he could go on a clean out the divisions to 154 or anything..But the horse***** spouted around here as if the man somehow talked himself into the elite part of the sport and doesn't have nasty hand speed,power and combinations is absurd.
Could he beat Ricky Hatton? I don't know. What I would bet on is that Hatton doesn't hit harder than Maidana and mostly likely won't bring that workrate. However Ricky didn't fight like Chino in fact he fights more like Gavin Rees fought Broner with a constant in and out motion....
Can Broner time him coming in? Yeah I think so, But Ricky was no joke.
To suggest the two are levels apart is simply ignorant, just ask yourself how Ricky would perform and Porter or Maidana and you'll see that.
Rickey Hatton would beat the living dog **** out of that boy lol I don't think he'd finish him because he doesn't hit much harder then Maidana if at all but he's a terrible style match up for Broner. Broner has no foot work and would just stand in front of Rickey letting him be right where he wants. Hatton clinch, body punch, and work Broner probably pretty bad en route to an comfortable decision.