Olympic Boxing - Rio 2016

Buatsi definitely is better suited for the pros. Joyce is just too green and robotic he's very stiff and just doesn't look ready for the pros, he might wanna stick around another couple yrs to work on his technique. Joyce is a bit too old to be waiting around. Just needs to work with what he has. He is better than he looks i reckon and will get to a good level assuming no major chin and stamina issues (which are much less likely being that he fights with no headgear and looks good over 5 rnds). World titles? Probably not. If he makes Euro level or above and Joshua is champ or title holder then a fight between the two is a no brainer.

not that I know of bruh Man and Levit and Hrgovic will make great pros Yeah I think most of team GB will turn pro, I really hope Buatsi does, nobody impressed me more than him this year for team GB Buatsi will be much better suited to pro boxing. H Kid can bang no doubt about it. Maybe could be worth waiting for World championships to get a bit more top level experience? Woth the new rules he is probably learning more in the ams than he will be in the first 10-15 pro fights

I would really like to see Robeisy go pro but i doubt that happens. I know its early but does Dusmatov have a date set yet? not that I know of bruh -Tony Yoka wants to go pro -Ryabinskiy wants to sign Tishchenko -Sauerland wants to sign Hrgovic -Dychko can go pro if he gets good contract he says. -Hyrunov wants to sign Levit and some sources say they met in rio. -Hrvoje Sep from Croatia may sign Sauerland. Man and Levit and Hrgovic will make great pros I believe Joyce said he would be going pro after the Olympics. I never read/watched the interview though so thats second hand info Yeah I think most of team GB will turn pro, I really hope Buatsi does, nobody impressed me more than him this year for team GB

-Tony Yoka wants to go pro -Ryabinskiy wants to sign Tishchenko -Sauerland wants to sign Hrgovic -Dychko can go pro if he gets good contract he says. -Hyrunov wants to sign Levit and some sources say they met in rio. -Hrvoje Sep from Croatia may sign Sauerland. i really think dychko would be making a mistake if he turned pro. he's just not built for it

Man I really hope Yeleussinov, Levit, Martinez and Lopez turn pro No news on any of the Olympians turning pro other than Dusmatov? I believe Joyce said he would be going pro after the Olympics. I never read/watched the interview though so thats second hand info

Man I really hope Yeleussinov, Levit, Martinez and Lopez turn pro No news on any of the Olympians turning pro other than Dusmatov? -Tony Yoka wants to go pro -Ryabinskiy wants to sign Tishchenko -Sauerland wants to sign Hrgovic -Dychko can go pro if he gets good contract he says. -Hyrunov wants to sign Levit and some sources say they met in rio. -Hrvoje Sep from Croatia may sign Sauerland.

Man I really hope Yeleussinov, Levit, Martinez and Lopez turn pro No news on any of the Olympians turning pro other than Dusmatov?

Veitia, Pero and Yasniel. Veitia you can replace with Frank Sanches - I mean Frank's not gonna bounce around looking pretty and losing rounds Yasniel - there are 3 guys you can replace him with - Kevin Brown, Andy Cruz, forgot the the third guy's name Pero - not much talent at superheavy in Cuba, only guy there is Toirac who is not as skilled but harder puncher and can take a better punch and that's what Pero has shown to be lacking at the World Stage. Pero is ok for the PAN am games. Savon should've been replaced by Frank Sanchez but it's no longer possible because Frank defected last month. Still Savon has been beat in the past by better fighters in Cuba but he has his last name to thank for. He's good but I don't think Levitt can intimidate Sanchez the way he did Savon. Somebody's gonna come up, there is a ton of fighters in Cuba, I just don't know if they'll take Savon's place. I wouldn't be surprised if a lot of Cuban fighters in Cuba left. I believe Robeisy is gonna leave Cuba pretty soon... He went through a "bored" phase after the 2012 Olympics (which is why he lost a lot of fights). But when those lights were on him in Rio, he lit up with them. Maybe he's already at that professional mind state. I can't even blame him for that. We know the story with these Cuban fighters and their "come up." Guys like Robeisy, Arlen, and Roniel are needed over here in the U.S... They can break that stereotype that all Cuban fighters are "safety first" like Rigo and Lara. Have you heard of this one Cuban kid named Javier Ibanez!? That kid is a DOG in the ring! I bet he will be Robeisy's replacement! LOL.

Who Aloyev has defeated in the past has no bearing on this tournament. Aloyev shouldn`t have been in the final and Zoirov while a very good fighter looked average against Aloyev and he should`ve blown him out like I said he would. Why should have he blown out Aloyan? Aloyan is a very good fighter, he just got ill at the begining of the tournament, so he wasn't in his best shape in his first fights because of it.

Veitia, Pero and Yasniel. Veitia you can replace with Frank Sanches - I mean Frank's not gonna bounce around looking pretty and losing rounds Yasniel - there are 3 guys you can replace him with - Kevin Brown, Andy Cruz, forgot the the third guy's name Pero - not much talent at superheavy in Cuba, only guy there is Toirac who is not as skilled but harder puncher and can take a better punch and that's what Pero has shown to be lacking at the World Stage. Pero is ok for the PAN am games. Savon should've been replaced by Frank Sanchez but it's no longer possible because Frank defected last month. Still Savon has been beat in the past by better fighters in Cuba but he has his last name to thank for. He's good but I don't think Levitt can intimidate Sanchez the way he did Savon. Somebody's gonna come up, there is a ton of fighters in Cuba, I just don't know if they'll take Savon's place. Do you think Argilagos moves up? Wasn't he having trouble making weight during Nationals? Also, didn't Frank Saldivar move up to 56 kg? If he didn't then yeah I think he should replace Veitia. Have you seen Lenier Pero's brother? He looks like he has more potential. He's like 17 right now. He won the Junior World Championships last year. Do you think Alvarez stays at 60 kg or does he move up to 64 kg? I honestly think he's better than Kevin Brown and Andy Cruz, but there is no guarantee that he moves up. How about Roniel Iglesias? Do you think they'll let him stay another four year or does Cuba have a strong fighter to replace him? Maybe Kevin Brown moves up to 69 kg. Hasn't Brown been fighting around the same weight for a while now?

PS: It should be b.w Dumsatov, La Cruz and Robeisy. Dusmatov and La Cruz total domination. Robeisy better fighters, higher ranked fighters, more fights and more pressure on him and he beat the # 2 and # 3 from the worlds clearly. How do you think the Cuban squad will look in the next few years? Who stays? Who gets replaced?

Yes, Dusmatov. Yeah, I saw. Thank you. :boxing: You know why he got it right? And its not cuz he deserved or is a better fighter than Robeisy, Its simply because he from Uzbekistan. You should make a thread asking if Dusmatov deserved it or not.

Who Aloyev has defeated in the past has no bearing on this tournament. Aloyev shouldn`t have been in the final and Zoirov while a very good fighter looked average against Aloyev and he should`ve blown him out like I said he would. Zoirov like Ramirez are the only two champs to have fought 5 fights this tournament, however, Zoirov faced an equally tired Aloyev and Aloyev pushed the pace on him in the final round, while Robeisy faced a very fresh Stevenson and pushed the pace on him in the final round. So that seals it for Ramirez b/w the two. So it's Dusmatov or Ramirez. If you like dominance you go with Dusmatov if you like strength of competition, number of fights you go with Ramirez. You haven't told me what you thought about the fight b/w Dunaytsev vs Gaibnazarov? Victories for Zoirov: -Brendan Irvine (2015 European Games Silver) Won 3:0 -Antonio Vargas (2015 Pan American Games Champion. Ranked #15 in the World) Won 3:0 -Elvin Mamishzada (2015 World Champion. 2015 European Games Champion. 2010 European Championship Silver. 2013 European Championship Bronze. #1 Seed. Ranked #1 in the World.) Won 3:0 -Yoel Finol (2015 Pan American Games Bronze. Ranked #12 in the World.) Won 3:0 -Misha Aloyan (2x World Champion in 2011 and 2013. 2012 Olympic Bronze. 2009 World Championship Bronze. 2010 European Champion. #3 Seed.) Won 3:0 Victories for Ramirez: -Shiva Thapa (2015 World Championship Bronze. Ranked #6 in the World.) Won 3:0 -Mohamed Hamout (Ranked #17 in the World.) Won 2:1 (Should have been 3:0 though) -Zhang Jiawei (Ranked #16 in the World. #3 Seed) Won 3:0 -Murodjon Akhmadaliev (2015 World Championship Silver. 2015 Asian Championship Silver. #2 Seed. Ranked #3 in the World.) Won 3:0 -Shakur Stevenson (#4 Seed.) Won 2:1 (Should have been 3:0 in my opinion.) I like both fighters I just think Zoirov had a tougher road and was only in one competitive fight. Aloyan may have not deserved to be in the final, but Hamout was extremely lucky to get out of his first fight. (Regarding the Dunaytsev-Gaibnazarov fight I would also like to rewatch that fight before I make any comments.) It doesn't matter anymore. I think they gave it to Hasanboy Dusmatov. I think he deserved it. Dusmatov was the most dominant fighter of the Games. Zoirov and Ramirez were strong contenders that is all that matters. La Cruz, Yeleussinov, and Levit should also be proud and strong contenders.

Did they announce the Val Barker winner?

Joyce won. Back-to-back gift decisions for Yoka. He's probably the worst Olympic Gold Medalist ever in the Super Heavyweight division. Joshua's Gold Medal in London was controversial, but he was on another level, really. Yoka is mediocre at best. He never looks in control of his fights, his "defense" consists of eating bodyshots and partially blocking head shots although he still finds ways to get hit clean, he does nothing offensively, doesn't make you miss, doesn't make you pay, and he uses almost exclusively his jab. His chin is suspect -Joyce and Hrgovic staggered him- and Savon knocked him out cold a few years ago. He would be a terrible pro. Yoka and Tischenko are the two biggest frauds of these Olympic Games.

Yeah he was competitive against Aloyev who shouldn`t have been even in the semis. It`s between Dusmatov and Ramirez. To be fair though that was his only competitive fight and Aloyan has defeated Robeisy in the past. Even though Robeisy was the clear winner in his final, just like Zoirov was for his, he also could have done more. For example, he let the second round go by basically not doing much. He could have made that fight easier on himself. We already talked about how Robeisy is sometimes not consistent enough. That's what hurts him at times. Hamout and Jiawei also had some success against Robeisy that's what I think hurts Ramirez. Dusmatov should probably get it just because of how dominant he was.

I really like Joe Joyce's output. Chin is good, conditioning/work-rate is world class. Seems to hit pretty hard too, busts right through and around the guard.

I think i would have picked Joyce on that one. Was a close one.

i thought joyce won that he landed plenty to yoka's ribs and his jab was getting through regularly yoka's work looked cleaner though, i'll give him that i guess yoka is kind of the french anthony joshua

I think Dusmatov and Zoirov are the two leaders for the Val Barker trophy. Dusmatov was the most dominant fighter. Zoirov had the best wins. Ramirez, Levit (yes even though he technically got Silver we all know what really happened), La Cruz, Yeleussinov are also strong contenders. Did I miss anyone? Dusmatov and Zoirov are the leaders to me though. The only thing that hurts Zoirov is that he let the final be a little competitive but he fought a 2x World Champion and someone who has defeated Robeisy Ramirez in the past, so it's not like he fought a no one.