seems like people grasp at straws to give white fighters the benefit of the doubt when it comes to testing positive for banned substances. Who here believes he is clean?
Another foreign "Champion" piss hot. Can these people compete with us without CHEATING.
Floyd's legacy will be popularizing drug testing in this sport. I can't wait to see how lil g and kov look without their "helper."
Uh no.
People from America always jump to the conclusion that the foreign fighter (especially eastern european) is on steroids.
People from other countries (especially eastern europeans) also always jump the conclusion that the American fighter is on steroids.
And round and round it goes.
And yeah, it sounds like Tyson cheated, but we'll have to wait and see.
Fury is clean, it was the homosexual Jewish reptiles who tainted his jerky. Hughie is juicing though, the Jews are angry so they paid Hughie to pee on Fluff's jerky.
What's the banned substance? I still haven't heard that, and that's kind of the biggest piece of information missing from these "reports" (besides for this information coming out so late)
If Fury used, then he's an idiot cause it doesn't appear to have worked - not that I can tell physically and certainly not aesthetically. Let's be honest, there's nothing "suspicious" about Fury, he's not fast, he's not surpassing achievements at an advanced age, he's not turned into a one punch knockout artist....he relies heavily on boxing ability first and foremost; if there's a drug for enhancing your ring iq, then he be a cheat.
I'm skeptical, but I'm also unaware of what he "used." But if he cheated, then I'll criticize him.
seems like people grasp at straws to give white fighters the benefit of the doubt when it comes to testing positive for banned substances. Who here believes he is clean?
He is as dirty as his underwear is after eating some tainted beef at a roadside taco stand
None of those things makes you a racist, being a GGG fan does doe.
Haha, so i've heard mate. Apparently, according to these forums, there is no such thing as GGG fans, they're all ex Manny fans who have jumped ship. But they're not really Manny fans anyway..it's just that they hate Floyd. And they hate Floyd because they're racist :lol1:
How long does it take to cycle?
The failed test was "between February and March 2015" when he fought:
29th November 2014 (Chisora)
28th February 2015 (Hammer)
Hughie Fury fought:
5th October 2014 (Hughes)
21st February 2015 (Rudenko)
It depends on the entirety of the cycle.
He may have been on it while tested or he may have just not known how long it stays in the system; it's still active for 2-6 weeks and can be detectable in tests for over a year.
That's what I mean. And UKAD were ordered to lift the suspension by a high court judge.
https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/boxing/1549966/tyson-fury-has-drug-ban-lifted-and-will-defend-world-heavyweight-titles-against-wladimir-klitschko/
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/sportsnews/article-3722364/Tyson-Fury-cleared-face-Wladimir-Klitschko-world-title-rematch.html
OK, UKAD found traces in Feb'15, suspended him in June'16 & lifted the suspension as of yesterday but he was was still charged by UKAD nonetheless.. So there is now a separate investigation pending after he was charged by UKAD.
http://www.bbc.com/sport/boxing/36970816
"UK Anti-Doping can confirm that both boxers were charged on 24 June, 2016 with presence of a prohibited substance.
"The UK Anti-Doping Rules allow athletes to challenge the imposition of a provisional suspension and the independent National Anti-Doping Panel (NADP) today lifted the athletes' suspensions, pending full determination of the charges.
"These charges will be heard at a hearing before the NADP in due course."
Geez.. This is more complex than the electronic circuits I learnt in college.. :lol1:
Well.. the more awkward question would be why didn't they publish this earlier to a mega title fight or ban him then ? They even let the fight go on ffs...
Or even why was he suspended in June when UKAD did not even reveal anything & lifted the suspension now??
That's what I mean. And UKAD were ordered to lift the suspension by a high court judge.
https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/boxing/1549966/tyson-fury-has-drug-ban-lifted-and-will-defend-world-heavyweight-titles-against-wladimir-klitschko/
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/sportsnews/article-3722364/Tyson-Fury-cleared-face-Wladimir-Klitschko-world-title-rematch.html
He's almost certainly not clean. Judging from the fact that he failed a very early test and passed all the later ones, he was probably cycling and misjudged how long a period he needed to test clean.
How long does it take to cycle?
The failed test was "between February and March 2015" when he fought:
29th November 2014 (Chisora)
28th February 2015 (Hammer)
Hughie Fury fought:
5th October 2014 (Hughes)
21st February 2015 (Rudenko)
If UKAD ban Fury on the basis of a test result from going on 2 years ago they are going to have to answer some very awkward questions.
Well.. the more awkward question would be why didn't they publish this earlier to a mega title fight or ban him then ? They even let the fight go on ffs...
Or even why was he suspended in June when UKAD did not even reveal anything & lifted the suspension now??
He's almost certainly not clean. Judging from the fact that he failed a very early test and passed all the later ones, he was probably cycling and misjudged how long a period he needed to test clean.
Any ideas why it wasn't? 18 months now since he gave that sample. Test results would have been back within days. They must have been fighting this behind the scenes. Either that or UKAD have incredibly dysfunctional procedures in place.
Maybe legal action? I know that's how Tony Thompson was able to conceal his Price drug test failure.
I don't think anyone knows what to believe until the process (legal or investigatory) is complete.
I do know he shouldn't have been allowed to fight Wlad last time, or this time unless proven clean, and that the whole thing should have been dealt with much sooner.
Any ideas why it wasn't? 18 months now since he gave that sample. Test results would have been back within days. They must have been fighting this behind the scenes. Either that or UKAD have incredibly dysfunctional procedures in place.
If UKAD ban Fury on the basis of a test result from going on 2 years ago they are going to have to answer some very awkward questions.
If your sample comes back positive for nandrolone (or any other steroid), I consider you a drug cheat.
We'll see how it all plays out, but at this moment it seems more a case of guilty until proven innocent.
I don't necessary believe Fury is a drugs cheat.
Therefore that makes me a racist. A racist who hates Haymon. That's why i hate PBC. Obama can get some as well while i'm at it.
That's right isn't. What i supposed to say. ? :pat:
None of those things makes you a racist, being a GGG fan does doe.
I do know he shouldn't have been allowed to fight Wlad last time, or this time unless proven clean, and that the whole thing should have been dealt with much sooner.
Any ideas why it wasn't? 18 months now since he gave that sample. Test results would have been back within days. They must have been fighting this behind the scenes. Either that or UKAD have incredibly dysfunctional procedures in place.
I don't think anyone knows what to believe until the process (legal or investigatory) is complete.
I do know he shouldn't have been allowed to fight Wlad last time, or this time unless proven clean, and that the whole thing should have been dealt with much sooner.