styles make fights. Manny Beat the hell out of Bradley 3 times...Bradley beat JMM JMM KOd Manny. That point is mute. Back to reality...Keith has only beat guys in the LOWER echelon of the sport. Fought no top guys...AT ALL. How does that prove his worth and why should it? Manny on the other hand has blown through and beat guys in his prime and in recent fights who have been of better quality opponents than ANYONE Keith has ever fought.
He sure has beaten lotta guys in (his) prime. Shall we count the numbers he's beaten outside of theirs. Mosley?? Margarito?? To name a couple. Minus the drain.....
Keith is better than Pacman's entire welterweight run. And above. (Which is laughable). 6 years past is prime, plus a brutal ko from a smaller, older fighter than One Time.
Pro fighters spar all the time. I'm not sure what you mean by Manny's old sparring partner. As if that means Porter is a bum. But I will tell you this, Provo, the guy that just lost to Molina jr, lol, had Bradley on queer street for an extended period of their fight. That tells me that a fighter with a near 50% accuracy rating with power could definitely beat Bradley. Possibly stop him.
styles make fights. Manny Beat the hell out of Bradley 3 times...Bradley beat JMM JMM KOd Manny. That point is mute. Back to reality...Keith has only beat guys in the LOWER echelon of the sport. Fought no top guys...AT ALL. How does that prove his worth and why should it? Manny on the other hand has blown through and beat guys in his prime and in recent fights who have been of better quality opponents than ANYONE Keith has ever fought.
So youre saying Keith can beat Bradley? after going the distance with Mannys old sparring partner...you think he can beat Bradley?
Pro fighters spar all the time. I'm not sure what you mean by Manny's old sparring partner. As if that means Porter is a bum. But I will tell you this, Provo, the guy that just lost to Molina jr, lol, had Bradley on queer street for an extended period of their fight. That tells me that a fighter with a near 50% accuracy rating with power could definitely beat Bradley. Possibly stop him.
So youre saying Keith can beat Bradley? after going the distance with Mannys old sparring partner...you think he can beat Bradley?
Thurman would put Bradley to sleep.
Outside of Bradley, who looked awful against a fighter Molina jr just beat, Pacman hasn't done anything noteworthy in years. The last elite level fighter he fought put him to sleep. Outside of Floyd taking clear advantage.
Rios got ko'd by a man who had like a dismal ko ratio, he was obviously shot. But if Thurman can't beat him, and is overrated then the fight should be easy, made and see what happens.
So youre saying Keith can beat Bradley? after going the distance with Mannys old sparring partner...you think he can beat Bradley?
You have to look at the quality of opponents Keith has fought. There is a reason he is on a high horse right now. He is looking good against lesser opposition opponents that Manny has fought in his most resent fights. If Keith can beat Tim Bradley Id say lets do it. But i dont think that would happen. Porter gave him all he can take. And a lot of people think Porter beat him.
Keith last 5 fights before porter were fights made to make him look good. The opponents were LESS. Come on man Brandon Rios would beat any of Keiths last five opponents not named Shawn Porter. Im not taking nothing away from Keith for being a decent fighter. But no way is he on A Pacquiao level when Pac was in his prime and no way is he on a Pac level at the end of his career. Manny is still game and beating and out working BETTER opponents than Keith has faced.
Outside of Bradley, who looked awful against a fighter Molina jr just beat, Pacman hasn't done anything noteworthy in years. The last elite level fighter he fought put him to sleep. Outside of Floyd taking clear advantage.
Rios got ko'd by a man who had like a dismal ko ratio, he was obviously shot. But if Thurman can't beat him, and is overrated then the fight should be easy, made and see what happens.
Didn't say he shouldn't fight. He can do whatever he wants. I'm saying this is 2016 and Pacman hasn't dominated anyone relatively close to the fighter One Time is in 6 years. And I know Pacman doesn't beat him quickly. Or at all for that matter.
He'd better keep beating lesser opposition, because Thurman and Brook are not the type of guys an old Pacman needs to be fighting.
You have to look at the quality of opponents Keith has fought. There is a reason he is on a high horse right now. He is looking good against lesser opposition opponents that Manny has fought in his most resent fights. If Keith can beat Tim Bradley Id say lets do it. But i dont think that would happen. Porter gave him all he can take. And a lot of people think Porter beat him.
Keith last 5 fights before porter were fights made to make him look good. The opponents were LESS. Come on man Brandon Rios would beat any of Keiths last five opponents not named Shawn Porter. Im not taking nothing away from Keith for being a decent fighter. But no way is he on A Pacquiao level when Pac was in his prime and no way is he on a Pac level at the end of his career. Manny is still game and beating and out working BETTER opponents than Keith has faced.
yes of course we have seen some slowdown as you would normally see in an aging fighter. Some. But seriously if you ike him or hate him or whatever tha case may be he has competed against younger and stronger guys very athletic guys at a championship level and really has shown NO signs that he should not get back in the ring. He has also got devastatingly KO'd by JMM and got back in the ring to dominate.
now when he loses to lesser opposition or gets out worked by lesser opposition then yeah lets scream he is done and over. But that is not the case. He is still out working and out classing and beating up solid opponents.
Didn't say he shouldn't fight. He can do whatever he wants. I'm saying this is 2016 and Pacman hasn't dominated anyone relatively close to the fighter One Time is in 6 years. And I know Pacman doesn't beat him quickly. Or at all for that matter.
He'd better keep beating lesser opposition, because Thurman and Brook are not the type of guys an old Pacman needs to be fighting.
Manny does not want to fight full fledged WWs one would think that is obvious now , he will fight JWs at WW or former JWs which means Thurman is out , Thurman is too big hits too hard and can move , all the things Manny dont want .
I don't see Manny pursuing this fight, unfortunately. Thurman is too much of a risk, and you know Manny will have a weak ass camp in the Philippines too.
Sadly, I don't see Manny fighting anyone not named Jesse Vargas in the fall.
Hard to believe that in 2016, people still act like we're in 2010. Pacan should be the underdog. He probably won't, but the only thing surprising would be a Pacman victory, (minus some paid judging), of course.
yes of course we have seen some slowdown as you would normally see in an aging fighter. Some. But seriously if you ike him or hate him or whatever tha case may be he has competed against younger and stronger guys very athletic guys at a championship level and really has shown NO signs that he should not get back in the ring. He has also got devastatingly KO'd by JMM and got back in the ring to dominate.
now when he loses to lesser opposition or gets out worked by lesser opposition then yeah lets scream he is done and over. But that is not the case. He is still out working and out classing and beating up solid opponents.
great post.
thurman is a real throwback.
unlike these new millennial social media born soft ass retards like broner and gift garcia.
you're absolutely right
Jesus...Manny will fuk him up quick. Props to him for calling Manny out. At least hes not worried about losing his 0.
Hard to believe that in 2016, people still act like we're in 2010. Pacan should be the underdog. He probably won't, but the only thing surprising would be a Pacman victory, (minus some paid judging), of course.
This is a match worth making. Garcia or Broner is a mismatch. Crawford should stay at 140. Brook's gone up to 197 lbs. Marquez will never fight again, and has been retired for 2 years. Make it Bob!!