Cotto vs Martinez

Sergio martinez would of KOd cotto in his prime.

Am sorry even though i picked Martinez to beat Cotto, I just can't give Cotto credit for the version of Martinez that he beat. I just can't get past the disabled Martinez that i saw in that ring. And to be honest it isn't about Cotto as i would feel the same about anyone who stepped in that ring on that night against Martinez. The fact that we could all see the physical disability on HD, unfolding right in front of our eyes, just makes it difficult to make this "win" a bigger deal.

The pulse was that Martinez would win. He danced around Chavez while Cotto got clowned by Trout. However, within a few seconds of the bell it was clear that Sergio was hobbling around like a newborn deer. When a guy's entire game revolves around his movement, taking that away makes him a sitting duck. His condition was bad enough that he never returned. Sergio cashed out. That's the story of that 'fight'.

Most picked Sergio to win but then after he got his azz kicked everyone blamed the knees, typical.

Martinez was never the same after the Chavez Jr. fight. He got a gift decision in his previous fight and had a year layoff and 2 knee surgeries before the Cotto fight. It then came out that he was not even able to spar in camp before the Cotto fight. This was not the Sergio Martinez that put Paul Williams to sleep. He hadn't been that guy for a long time. His knee pretty much gave out in the first round and Cotto was able to go in with reckless abandon after the first round and he knew Sergio was done. People were convinced that Freddy Roach had revived Cotto to his pre Margacheato days but it was a case of great match making to make Cotto look good before he cashed himself out against Canelo. Excellent post. It's not about "nuthugging" or "excuses". I felt cheated watching that fight. Martinez was literally hobbling around on one leg. His knee was well beyond repair and he was just cashing out knowing his career was over. Shame on Martinez for going through with the fight and cheating fans out of their money. And shame on Cotto fanboys for trying to call this a credible win.

Martinez was never the same after the Chavez Jr. fight. He got a gift decision in his previous fight and had a year layoff and 2 knee surgeries before the Cotto fight. It then came out that he was not even able to spar in camp before the Cotto fight. This was not the Sergio Martinez that put Paul Williams to sleep. He hadn't been that guy for a long time. His knee pretty much gave out in the first round and Cotto was able to go in with reckless abandon after the first round and he knew Sergio was done. People were convinced that Freddy Roach had revived Cotto to his pre Margacheato days but it was a case of great match making to make Cotto look good before he cashed himself out against Canelo.

I literally gave Cotto no chance to beat Martinez.

calculated risk from cotto that turned out good for him. martinez was cashing out

I'm a big Martinez and Cotto fan. But I remember seeing Martinez in the 24/7 and I saw footage of him walking in his hotel room. The way he was walking I knew something wasn't right. Then when for the first time in his career he wears gigantic shorts for the fight, and the news that Freddie Roach and the commission would not allow Martinez to wear knee supports for the fight I knew something was truly wrong. I don't know what happened from the Murray fight up until the Cotto fight but he was truly not himself that night. I think Cotto is highly skilled but I am not convinced that the win he got over Martinez was legitimate. Also think of the uncharacteristic **** talking Martinez did to sell the fight. I think Martinez knew his state and wanted to cash out. He didn't even have a going away fight. If you do research on knee injuries you will realize that even surgery is not very successful. I think he lost all mobility, and as a result his power in that fight. I wish we had seen Cotto v. Martinez in 2009-2011. Man that fight would have been great. Unfortunately we got something else. Cotto gets respect from me for taking the fight, because for all he knew he was fighting a slightly past prime but healthy Martinez. But he does not get credit for that fight from me.

Only Cotto nuthuggers give him any kind of credit for beating a cripple who shouldnt have even been allowed to get in the ring to begin with Martinez looked like **** against Murray, a shadow of his former self, and he actually lost that fight. He never recovered from the knee injury against Chavez but that same Martinez didn't look nearly as terrible as the one gimp with two knee braces that Cotto fought Cotto the vulture deserves zero credit for the W and Martinez deserves scorn from the fans for conning everyone, he lied and fooled the fans just to cash out. anyone in the top 20 MW would have slaughtered that Martinez

Sergio had spent years battling knee problems and was fighting one-legged against Cotto. I can't give him much credit for winning that fight.

This would be a decent troll but he beat Clottey and Mosley pretty easy. Ill give you a mulligan, try again. Yeah the Mosley/Clottey myth is one of the biggest case of fighters getting credit for doing better than they were supposed to.

Martinez had one knee. If people can't see that he was A) disabled in that fight and B) over the hill anyway I don't know what to tell you. Cotto has losses to Alvarez where he was bullied, marg and pac where he quit, trout where he was schooled, clottey Floyd and mosley Cotto is the biggest fabrication in boxing This would be a decent troll but he beat Clottey and Mosley pretty easy. Ill give you a mulligan, try again.

I told people it wasn't only a fight Cotto can win, it was one he was suppose to win. Most importantly what went ignored, it was that Cotto was far more skilled than anyone Martinez had ever faced and that wasn't even debatable. At the time people were too stuck on what Trout did to Cotto, which made absolutely no sense because Trout and Martinez fight nothing alike. Trout doesn't step into his punches like Martinez, which made Trout less susceptible to being countered. Trout at that time was far more committed to fighting behind a stick, even if it meant landing meaningless punches. Just too different of a scenario. Oh and Cotto would have always beaten Martinez. Martinez always had stamina issues throughout his career and fought in spurts as a result, that's all too favorable for Cotto. Im not going to be one of these guys (not saying you are) that says , ah hell i knew he would win. I was a little concerned, as soon as he landed that first hook in the 1st round from that point on I agree with you. I dont think martinez could have ever beat Cotto.

Most people thought Martinez would win the fight; Martinez had been battling a knee injury, but he declared that through rehab it had been restored to an efficient level. The thought at the time was that Martinez would be too much for Cotto to handle, overall. It turns out that it was the total opposite of what most people expected. Cotto "haters" have ever since insisted on chucking it up to Martinez's knee, and they thereby use it as a way to avoid giving Cotto credit for his historic achievement (first 4 division champion in PR's history). Personally, I always knew Cotto would have Martinez's number, even years before this fight happened. Martinez was the equivalent of GGG back then, and most people laughed at me for it. But, it was indeed sweet to have been proven right. Cotto's an elite fighter who will end his career as an ATG. It'll be hard to find anyone on here who gives him the credit he deserves, but I've thoroughly enjoyed his career, especially considering what he had to come back from (Margarito's wraps). Thank you for answering. I cant say I Knew Cotto had his number but I knew he would fight until he was done.I can tell you it was one of the most enjoyable fights Ive seen in years. I personally love Cotto and Im truly appalled by the hate he gets. I was on my feet the entire fight. Its interesting to me that you dont like Golovkin. They are very similar. How did you get so much red in 400 posts, lol. If i knew how to do it id give you some green to even it out.

I told people it wasn't only a fight Cotto can win, it was one he was suppose to win. Most importantly what went ignored, it was that Cotto was far more skilled than anyone Martinez had ever faced and that wasn't even debatable. At the time people were too stuck on what Trout did to Cotto, which made absolutely no sense because Trout and Martinez fight nothing alike. Trout doesn't step into his punches like Martinez, which made Trout less susceptible to being countered. Trout at that time was far more committed to fighting behind a stick, even if it meant landing meaningless punches. Just too different of a scenario. Oh and Cotto would have always beaten Martinez. Martinez always had stamina issues throughout his career and fought in spurts as a result, that's all too favorable for Cotto.