Is this Kovalev without Meldonium?

No, he beat ward fair and square. A robbery

I'm not the only one that thinks that A.K

This is probably the best thread you have ever made #serious

I didn't think Bellew won either fight. First fight was Chilemba clear, second fight was closer but imo Chilemba won that by a couple of rounds too. I felt like Chilemba should have been agreesive he was in the opponents home

I'll quote my previous post; The Guardian says that the founder of meldonium "had previously authored an abstract to a sports science conference in which many benefits of meldonium were promised, including enhanced aerobic capabilities, endurance performance, and recovery." "A 2002 paper from researchers at Tbilisi State Medical University in Georgia found the drug has a positive effect on the physical working capacity of judokas" USAtoday Sounds like caffeine imo

I'm not arguing that it has SOME benefits. If it didn't have some benefit nobody would bother taking it. But it was legal for several decades and always mentioned alongside creatine was one of those "grey area substances". You don't take meldonium and turn into Kovalev. It's not Trenbolone. All the sudden (mostly political stuff having to do with USA vs Russia) meldonium is this huge concern... Hilarious http://www.forbes.com/forbes/welcome/#3727b1fd39a7 It was legal for decades because, according to WADA, they were not aware that it was being used for performance enhancement until recently. Their guidelines include several criteria, including whether people are using something for the sake of enhancing athletic performance (their criteria, not mine, argue with them). Research on the substance in sports applications is poor and WADA can't afford to fund it.

I'll quote my previous post; The Guardian says that the founder of meldonium "had previously authored an abstract to a sports science conference in which many benefits of meldonium were promised, including enhanced aerobic capabilities, endurance performance, and recovery." "A 2002 paper from researchers at Tbilisi State Medical University in Georgia found the drug has a positive effect on the physical working capacity of judokas" USAtoday I'm not arguing that it has SOME benefits. If it didn't have some benefit nobody would bother taking it, although it seems its main benefit is post-workout recovery, similar to ALCAR, which I take. It was legal for several decades and always mentioned alongside creatine was one of those "grey area substances". You don't take meldonium and turn into Kovalev. It's not Trenbolone. All the sudden (mostly political stuff having to do with USA vs Russia) meldonium is this huge concern... Hilarious http://www.forbes.com/forbes/welcome/#3727b1fd39a7

Do you think he beat bellew? I didn't think Bellew won either fight. First fight was Chilemba clear, second fight was closer but imo Chilemba won that by a couple of rounds too.

...it's stimulant benefits are comparable to caffeine? I'll quote my previous post; The Guardian says that the founder of meldonium "had previously authored an abstract to a sports science conference in which many benefits of meldonium were promised, including enhanced aerobic capabilities, endurance performance, and recovery." "A 2002 paper from researchers at Tbilisi State Medical University in Georgia found the drug has a positive effect on the physical working capacity of judokas" USAtoday

I like how meldonium is the new scary PED... You guys realize it was legal for 50 years and some people want the ban overturned because it's stimulant benefits are comparable to caffeine? Caffeine was formerly on the WADA list but removed. Creatine is another grey area substance. Like 90% of boxers are roided to the gills and survive drug tests using masking agents (which occasionally backfire and are detected themselves) but we're suddenly very worried about some heart medication female tennis players take, think everyone is a "meldonium-fueled maniac!!! He on that A-side meldonium!". Haaaaaaaaaaaaaaahahahaha. It's like getting in a street fight then running away because the other guy takes a puff of his asthma inhaler. DAMN HE ALL DRUGGED UP! NO WONDER PEOPLE DYING! People are so ****ing dumb. If you're worried about PEDs address the rampant steroid/masking agent issue. The guys on meldonium were at least trying to obey the (recently changed) rules.

You quoted a 2015 article referencing the first Pascal fight. You'd swear people have never seen a Chilemba fight before, this is how they look folks, except you can usually make an argument that Chilemba won. Do you think he beat bellew?

I don't think Meldonium keeps you from eating jabs or struggling with distance. His stamina seemed diminished but that could have been from missing punches more than usual (which is exhausting). You never know though. The issue in that part of the world is real. No ignoring that. But, I can't say his struggles were drug related, they seemed more style-related. This. Perfect response. Plus Kovalev went through vada testing

http://www.boxingscene.com/kovalev-vs-pascal-no-drug-testing-agreement--87795 You quoted a 2015 article referencing the first Pascal fight. You'd swear people have never seen a Chilemba fight before, this is how they look folks, except you can usually make an argument that Chilemba won.

Wasn't it still legal to have a certain amount in your system when this fight took place? Yes but anyway Meldonium wasn't detected on his body

Chilemba never makes anyone look good. He is tricky. Kovalev did say he was sick also, I don't think he is on anything. He just needed to pace himself better

Just one Russian boxer (Roy Jones Jr) tested positive for a PED (androstenedione) some years ago. James Toney Pederson Hughie Fury Shannon Briggs Erkan Teper Tyson Fury D'Leon Love Mickey Bey Brandon Rios Guillermo Jones Antonio Tarver Luis Ortiz Andre Berto Fernando Vargas These men NOT Russian. Oh sh*t :lol1::lol1:

Meldonium doesn't suddenly give you power. He largely trains in the US.

No I think its Kovalev having an off day.. Calzaghe, Hopkins, Ward all have em! Its because we hold SK to such high standards that this performance which was a clear cut win over Chilemba anyway (who never makes anyone look good.. Sort of a LHW Sergio Mora!) that when he doesn't look the dominant anlmal we all know think he gets criticised more widely! More focus is on Kovalev than other fighters.. Anyone whom had beaten Chilemba in that fashion other than SK would have been highly praised! It will no doubt spur him on to be better next time.. I buy it that he was ill! The great Calzaghe never had an off day

Meldonium is not even thst big of a deal. I swear these testing organizations are actually worse for the sport. Yhese athletes can't even take supplements from GNC or they get popped. If you've taken any type of pre workout or post workout recently, chances are you'd get popped for PED's too.

or maybe he was really sick, something was off tho