EDIT; made this poll when the fight was announced. As of the day after the fight took place, more than 75% voted "No".
OK, let's get this out of the way. How much credit do you give Golovkin should he beat Brook?
They have a date in 9 weeks. Canelo, Jacobs, Saunders all pass, now this clown Eubank backs out. Brook steps in and takes the same deal. So it's do you pass on 2x career high min on Uk Ppv and slim pickings otherwise 2 months out?
See, that's what I don't understand. How did Brook get to this point? When he is more famous than Eubank, and well middleweights in general. Like if this is boxings new modus operandi. Fighters not really taking competitive risks in their respective weight classes but finding money in a higher division and a no hit to their reputation? Haha I'm just shocked a WW with some fame agreed to GGG demands. Khan on the phone : "Oi, Brook, try what I did, short night of work, made some stacks, and best of all I'm still regarded a significant figure in my weight class! Did I mention everyone I walk pass by mentions under their breathe that I have huge balls?"
Heck I was a huge fan of GGG, at least with the whole middleweight division shook cr
They have a date in 9 weeks. Canelo, Jacobs, Saunders all pass, now this clown Eubank backs out. Brook steps in and takes the same deal. So it's do you pass on 2x career high min on Uk Ppv and slim pickings otherwise 2 months out?
Yea, I started with an open mind but there's no logical justification.
If the guy wasn't consistently criticized (even by his own network) for his resume then it wouldn't be a big deal. But, this is drawing attention to his biggest problem. It's unreasonable to believe that they couldn't find anyone at 154 or 168 to fight. The few fans of his defending it are just making noise because that's all they know how to do. They've never said an objective word about the man.
Heck I was a huge fan of GGG, at least with the whole middleweight division shook cr[ap.
Now this garbage comes out and Mr. respect the sport doe is pulling out some shady WW beating garbage on t.v.
?? I'm actually so confused with how this was agreed upon? Like it makes absolutely no sense. It's far worse imo than Canelo-Khan fight. At least Canelo fought a WW at 155?
I think I read this is going on at 160??
I mean the guy should go up to 175 just to clear his name from this stunt.
I think it'll hit GGG's reputation.
I don't care how skilled a boxer Brook is.
Divisions matter for a reason. It's just the strength disparity is so insane, that if Brook even moved around running, he'd get bullied by a big puncher in Golovkin.
Not even a 154 fighter?
Man, what has boxing become?
Yea, I started with an open mind but there's no logical justification.
If the guy wasn't consistently criticized (even by his own network) for his resume then it wouldn't be a big deal. But, this is drawing attention to his biggest problem. It's unreasonable to believe that they couldn't find anyone at 154 or 168 to fight. The few fans of his defending it are just making noise because that's all they know how to do. They've never said an objective word about the man.
I think it'll hit GGG's reputation.
I don't care how skilled a boxer Brook is.
Divisions matter for a reason. It's just the strength disparity is so insane, that if Brook even moved around running, he'd get bullied by a big puncher in Golovkin.
Not even a 154 fighter?
Man, what has boxing become?
It's an ok win, should be an option on the poll...
A middleweight champ beating an undefeated welter champ is not a horrible win...
Haglers greatest win ever was ko'ing former welter hearns.
Obviously Brook is no hearns, but Golovkin is no hagler..
Same thing with hopkins and tito
Depending on what Brook does the rest of career, this could be an epic win for ggg...
If Golovkin wins in dominant fashion, then it's an okay/good win over an undefeated welter champ..
The sad thing is that Eubanks, canelo, saunders all ran from fighting Golovkin, and a welter champ like Brook had the balls to step up...
Props to Brook,,, even if he gets decimated, he gets my respect for challenging ggg
^^^^^This. And it's priceless watching the same phony GGG fans who killed Canelo for fighting khan yet now embarrass themselves defending GGG who is doing something way worse. Canelo is basically a SWW and khan went up 8 pounds. GGG is a full fledge career middleweight dragging Brook up 13 pounds.
Brook is bigger, sturdier, plain better than Khan. He was also not cherry picked like Khan, he was offered to them by his promoter after 4 top MWs ducked out in a span of 6 weeks. It's a sh1t fight, just not Khan sh1tty, and without the subsequent super duck
Fuck and no. It's a shameful fight. He's a better calibre of fighter than anyone he's faced, but he's two divisions smaller ffs.
^^^^^This. And it's priceless watching the same phony GGG fans who killed Canelo for fighting khan yet now embarrass themselves defending GGG who is doing something way worse. Canelo is basically a SWW and khan went up 8 pounds. GGG is a full fledge career middleweight dragging Brook up 13 pounds.
As far as Brook as an entity alone, it's a win, win for him. Fighting a P4P'er in GGG and in a higher weigh class. Not only does it propel his name and marketability but also his credibility as a fighter. Even when he loses, he will no doubt give GGG a good go. And that's enough to propel his name to the top of the Welterweight division. Now as far as Trip G is concerned. Well, I think it's obvious. It's a lose, lose. I mean come on. The guy is fighting a Welterweight for chris sake.
It's not a win win if he ends his career and/or gets seriously damaged
Having a definitive win against a top welterweight has certainly been considered meaningful for a lot of the top middleweights of the past. I guess the goalposts get moved in Golovkin's case.
If you bothered searching my posts or threads you would see i did give GGG flack for taking on Brooks. I guess at some point if the system is so flawed you have to join the system to win. That still doesn't explain why you aren't congratulating GGG. He became one of yours, a bizznezz man. So go ahead and praise him for his actions and tell him "if it don't make money it don't make sense". Idiot. The whole boxing system needs to be revamped.
Son Im working on my new sig and gif! GGG is da man! he finally understands what this game about! get on board yo! by 2016 Canelo and GGG are going to fight for recording setting PPV but your to stupid to see whats going on! hola at yo boy for clues!
As far as Brook as an entity alone, it's a win, win for him. Fighting a P4P'er in GGG and in a higher weigh class. Not only does it propel his name and marketability but also his credibility as a fighter. Even when he loses, he will no doubt give GGG a good go. And that's enough to propel his name to the top of the Welterweight division. Now as far as Trip G is concerned. Well, I think it's obvious. It's a lose, lose. I mean come on. The guy is fighting a Welterweight for chris sake.
WoW fam! I just got back from boating and I come home to find the boxing world upside down! WTF?!!! the obvious suspects at it again -- Kell Brook and Golovkin! and they hate on Canelo tho? they have been schooled and are following the blueprint of Amir 'King' Khan and Cashnelo Alvarez...I was getting hate by a Golovtard about being a bizznezzman but look whos laughing now?
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If you bothered searching my posts or threads you would see i did give GGG flack for taking on Brooks. I guess at some point if the system is so flawed you have to join the system to win. That still doesn't explain why you aren't congratulating GGG. He became one of yours, a bizznezz man. So go ahead and praise him for his actions and tell him "if it don't make money it don't make sense". Idiot. The whole boxing system needs to be revamped.
When I created the poll I had no idea it would be so 1-sided. Aside from the usual suspects (guys who could watch Golovkin rape an old lady and figure out a way to put a positive spin on it) no one thinks this is a good win.
I started out completely open minded but the points made here are just too sound too deny. A significantly smaller guy with 1 win and no momentum.
Big respect to those Golovkin fans who answered honestly. Something I always push for around here is for people to be more honest about the fighters they support.
That's another interesting angle. Brook should be the one getting credit here but many said Khan was just an idiot, so what do those folks say about Brook?
To be honest the kindest way to look at it is that there's less than ten weeks until the fight date and it was either this or cancel any Fall fight.
I don't know what fighters and venue had been booked for Sept 10th if any but having exhausted all the decent possibilities it only left Lara and there's no guarantee those negotiations wouldn't have been ****ty and long winded either.
I don't like it at all but looking at it pragmatically I suppose it was this or no fight at all.
Thanks Hearn and Eubank.