Middleweight Division aient THAT bad.

Look at these idiots who know nothing. Mauro Ranallo goes into a fanboy rant about 154 lbs. being "stacked" and these idiots think he's right. Jesus, this site. 160 lbs. is a better division, deal with it. Someone give me a top 10 fighters at 154 lbs. list. I bet a fair list includes Ishe Smith, Vanes Martirosyan, Austin Trout, and Liam Smith. Liam Smith is god awful. Austin Trout's only living off beating a depressed Cotto. He'd get pummeled at 160 lbs.

Canelo is fighting Liam Smith on PPV. He will never make Mayweather-type money no matter who he fights, but the fact that he can fight a nobody like Liam Smith on PPV and get paid well for it means that Canelo can avoid GGG for the rest of his career and still make a hell of a lot more money than GGG will ever make. Yep, that's correct. Business wise he made a good move maybe.

let's not get carried away with andrade, he looks fantastic. but don't forget that Vanes dropped him Heavily. He's not ready for the big boys at 160...yet.

Aside of GGG, none of those guys are world beaters. I think Andrade, for instance would beat all of them. That's basically what I said.

Charlo just fought trout Jrock is charlo mando Andrade will likely fight the other charlo or lara ....hurd just fought an other good prospect 160 weak bro :lol1::lol1:

160 is not better than 154 and it ain't even close 154 is good on paper...but let's not forget much of the talent there hasn't been proven against top opposition. If the charlos, andrade or williams start takin L's when they step up...it doesn't look so great anymore. Just another division where fights gotta start getting made to establish a pecking order.

If you're just listing out the names, it's a good division. If you're expecting the top fighters to fight each other, it isn't. Charlo just fought trout Jrock is charlo mando Andrade will likely fight the other charlo or lara ....hurd just fought an other good prospect 160 weak bro

If you're just listing out the names, it's a good division. If you're expecting the top fighters to fight each other, it isn't. what you mean like every other division in the sport? lol...

If you're just listing out the names, it's a good division. If you're expecting the top fighters to fight each other, it isn't.

you're missing the point, everyone (a ton) of people want GGG to move up, saying middleweight is one of the weakest divisions. Why should he move up when there's great fights at 160 and 168 sucks BALLS. It doesn't matter now, but he should have moved up to 168 to fight Andre Ward. He should have done this because none of the fighters at 160 are in his league. He should still move up because the competition at 168 is better than it is at 160 and fighters at 168 are willing to fight him. What GGG is doing is the equivalent of remaining in Triple A when he should be playing in the Major Leagues.

Well, you're right. But except Andrade I don't know how many guys at 154 moving up to 160 would beat one guy of the 160 top 4 Jacobs, GGG, BJS and Eubank. Aside of GGG, none of those guys are world beaters. I think Andrade, for instance would beat all of them.

Add canelo to that.. someday he will have to move up to 160. Get destroyed and retire. Canelo is fighting Liam Smith on PPV. He will never make Mayweather-type money no matter who he fights, but the fact that he can fight a nobody like Liam Smith on PPV and get paid well for it means that Canelo can avoid GGG for the rest of his career and still make a hell of a lot more money than GGG will ever make.

Most of the divisions in boxing are bad because the top fighters are not willing to fight each other. you're missing the point, everyone (a ton) of people want GGG to move up, saying middleweight is one of the weakest divisions. Why should he move up when there's great fights at 160 and 168 sucks BALLS.

Obviously GGG is at the top of the pile. sure you have Blowjob saunders ( pussay) Danny jacobs (pussay) But the prospects are very promising IMO. Eubanks Khytrov Derevyanchenko (will knock out sam soliman soon) Then you have old timers like midget mike tyson Khurtsidze Lemule and andy lee are always fun. not to mention Andrade/J rock will eventually move up. Let's not pretend it's a terrible division, it's just the usual story of bad matchmaking /boxers being *****'s / terrified to fight the man. Most of the divisions in boxing are bad because the top fighters are not willing to fight each other.

160 is not better than 154 and it ain't even close Well, you're right. But except Andrade I don't know how many guys at 154 moving up to 160 would beat one guy of the 160 top 4 Jacobs, GGG, BJS and Eubank.

It's a healthy division. A lot better than the division above and below it. 160 is not better than 154 and it ain't even close

It's a healthy division. A lot better than the division above and below it. 'lil g MOVE UP COWARD' super middleweight is one of the worst divsions in boxing lol. light middle has a TON of talent btw.

It's a healthy division. A lot better than the division above and below it.

please dont mention that name in this thread. thank you,

Add canelo to that.. someday he will have to move up to 160. Get destroyed and retire. :lol1: :lol1: fookin' Canelo