This dude said Golovkins frame would not comfortably make 168.. :rofl: :rofl:
What the fuk does that have to do with anything? If you want to be Great you need to take risks and challenge yourself. Look at Floyd, Pac, Cotto all little guys moving up fighting at junior middle and middle weight. GGG doesn't have to weigh in at an actual 168 weight numbnuts.
Floyd and Manny grew into those weight classes. GGG started at light welterweight and maxed out at 160.
Being great has nothing to do with jumping weight classes its about fighting the best which GGG has tried to do but the fighters at 160 lack testicles.
Cotto is a disgrace to middleweight and he is to be blamed for what is happening now with the title.
But I wouldn't expect you to understand any of this because you are a very biased poster.
I can read the meta-message you're sending. He's not my hero at all. He's one of my favourite fighters.
According to you we are the problem. So explain, how did we create the GGG hate?
No, you've read something that wasn't there. I can articulate myself without needing to hide my intention.
Hardcore ggg fans have become a rash, just like hardcore Fury, Mayweather, Pac, Broner, etc fans have been. I've argued against hardcore fans of every fighter, including ones I like. Hardcores in any area of life are rarely reasonable or pleasant. Their fanatic behavior annoys, causing backlash, like this thread. When you have an allegiance of people who never question anything done by the object and relentlessly defend everything he does, expect people to poke at the inevitable holes in their arguments because every man is flawed. That's why grown men rarely idolize people, children do.
So the date for Ward Kovalev been confirmed!!!!!!!!!
Facing a dude naturally heavier, bigger than him who hits like a hammer!!!!!!!
Where's lil G at?!!!! So Ward can move up to face a prime guy beating everyone ass at 175 but this punk can't move up 8 pounds!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
How long yall gonna defend lil G!!!!!
Get yall excuses ready!!!! Ward gonna school that punk!!!!!!!!!!!!
:rofl: :rofl: right, he is moving up because he is daring to be great, not because he can't make 168 lbs no more :rofl:
Which part of GGG does not have to take risk EVER do you not understand?
Which part of "everyone wants to fight GGG, just not next" do you not understand?
You completely ignored the question, posed a straw-man argument, brought up more irrelevant points I never debated, and criticized "facts" that I never stated.
In your quickness to defend you hero, you neglected to even notice the fact that I didn't attack him, but I actually defended Golovkin.
You know I don't mind debating this stuff with you but do me the respect of looking at what I'm actually saying here. That's why people make threads like this every day, because Golovkin fans take the bait and get crazy. You're feeding the trolls and annoying the other people who are being fair, people who aren't even attacking Golovkin.
I can read the meta-message you're sending. He's not my hero at all. He's one of my favourite fighters.
According to you we are the problem. So explain, how did we create the GGG hate?
So the date for Ward Kovalev been confirmed!!!!!!!!!
Facing a dude naturally heavier, bigger than him who hits like a hammer!!!!!!!
Where's lil G at?!!!! So Ward can move up to face a prime guy beating everyone ass at 175 but this punk can't move up 8 pounds!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
How long yall gonna defend lil G!!!!!
Get yall excuses ready!!!! Ward gonna school that punk!!!!!!!!!!!!
if this is true then this will be an excellent matched fight IMO as kovalev will like to pressurise and roughen up his opponents so ward will do his style off move and counter kovalev in order to out box or gain the upper hand advantage on points most likely...
GGG followers do nothing wrong. GGG is a top3 P4P like it or not. Don't begin that discussion because you know you will lose it if you play it fair.
Sergio Martinez: GGG is off the charts. Better than Canelo.
BJS: GGG would beat me and Eubank jr on the same night.
BJS: I need 12-18 months to be ready for GGG.
Jacobs: I need time and money has to be right.
Canelo: I'll beat GGG at 160, proceeds to vacate title.
Ward@2013: The MW's are avoiding him, it's not his fault.
But the dark skinned persons for some reason can't stand someone that doesn't look physically similar to them to be recognized as great and they started the hate against GGG. GGG followers didn't start this pathetic situation, GGG haters did. Get the facts straight.
You completely ignored the question, posed a straw-man argument, brought up more irrelevant points I never debated, and criticized "facts" that I never stated.
In your quickness to defend you hero, you neglected to even notice the fact that I didn't attack him, but I actually defended Golovkin.
You know I don't mind debating this stuff with you but do me the respect of looking at what I'm actually saying here. That's why people make threads like this every day, because Golovkin fans take the bait and get crazy. You're feeding the trolls and annoying the other people who are being fair, people who aren't even attacking Golovkin.
75–81kg (165-179lb/11st 11lb-12st 11lb)
Full name: Andre Ward
Nickname(s): S.O.G.
Gender: Male
Height: 6-0.5 (185 cm)
Weight: 176 lbs (80 kg)
Born: February 23, 1984 (Age 32.116, YY.DDD) in San Francisco, California, United States
Country: USA United States
Sport: Boxing
Medals: 1 Gold (1 Total)
Good job proving my point. Ward has been picking on smaller guys his entire career.
I won't get excited for Kovalev/Ward until a few weeks before the fight. Ward was signed to fight Pavlik and more recently Brand and neither ever happened. His fight with Froch got delayed a few months with an injury. He was supposed to have a fight in July and couldn't even pull that off.
Golovkin started his olympic career at light welterweight and Ward started at middleweight. So they were about 2 weight classes apart. In the 2004 Olympics Golovkin was at middleweight and Ward was at light heavy weight. Since then Ward has made the move from 168 to 175(bravo for not cutting weight) and Golovkin has remained at his comfortable weight at 160.
Golovkin's frame would not comfortably make 168 as he looks fully fleshed at 160 and any success at 168 would be a testament to his immense skills. Ward has expressed interest in fighting at heavyweight. All that said GGG offered to fight Ward in 2013 and Ward said no.
Andre Ward still has no opponent lined up when he should if he is to honor the contract of fighting Kovalev in 2016. Wake me up when Ward is serious about a challenge because the last 3 years it's all been bums.
This dude said Golovkins frame would not comfortably make 168.. :rofl: :rofl:
What the fuk does that have to do with anything? If you want to be Great you need to take risks and challenge yourself. Look at Floyd, Pac, Cotto all little guys moving up fighting at junior middle and middle weight. GGG doesn't have to weigh in at an actual 168 weight numbnuts.
Huh? Where did you come up with that? Racists on forums might be doing that but don't give ggg credit for the things his ignorant followers do. He hasn't don't anything wrong.
GGG followers do nothing wrong. GGG is a top3 P4P like it or not. Don't begin that discussion because you know you will lose it if you play it fair.
Sergio Martinez: GGG is off the charts. Better than Canelo.
BJS: GGG would beat me and Eubank jr on the same night.
BJS: I need 12-18 months to be ready for GGG.
Jacobs: I need time and money has to be right.
Canelo: I'll beat GGG at 160, proceeds to vacate title.
Ward@2013: The MW's are avoiding him, it's not his fault.
But the dark skinned persons for some reason can't stand someone that doesn't look physically similar to them to be recognized as great and they started the hate against GGG. GGG followers didn't start this pathetic situation, GGG haters did. Get the facts straight.
You think in the Olympics the weight requirements are the same as Professional rehydration? You see how scrawny Ward was when he started? It has taken him time to get to this level and weight adjustment for LHW Professional Boxing. With your stance therefore Lomachenko is a bigger fake because from 2011 he was a Lightweight but in the pros he and his mgmt. decided to casually go to Feather and fight smaller men? but I know you were being sarcastic..
Olympic lightheavy 178
Pro lightheavy 175
Ward picking on smaller dudes his whole career.
GGG was trying to fight the other belt holder in his division, a guy who is considered one of the worlds best fighters. It's not his fault he's being avoided. There isn't many fighters in boxing trying to fight the fellow top guys in the division but GGG actually has been trying to get those fights.
So no real complaints from me. GGG v Canelo would be essentially a MW version of Ward v Kovalev. Basically 2 of the best guys in their divisions. GGG was only trying to do what Ward and Kovalev are doing and fight the best competition. It's just both of them are willing to make the fight. GGG is willing to make his fight too, but Canelo isn't.
So rather than slate GGG, you should really focus on Canelo instead. Kovalev, Ward and GGG should all be praised for actually wanting to make good fights. Its not GGG's fault that his dance parter is ducking him.
Also, lets not act like Ward is doing something so extraordinary and brave. He IS naturally a LMW now and considered one of the most talented fighters in boxing, so he's doing what he should be doing and fighting other top fighters in his division as he always has.
Ward faces his first Top 10 opponent in 3 years.
Congratulations.
Meanwhile, GGG is closing in on the record for the most middleweight defenses of all time, held by a boxer from Philly. Oh snap! Hopkins is posting here!https://s.yimg.com/fz/api/res/1.2/fwvbh3lgJDw4H.XvlGyrgg--/dz03MDU7Y2M9NjA0ODAwO2FwcGlkPXNyY2hkZA--/https://tse2.mm.bing.net/th?id=OIP.M5720d534951d19e1aca63bf69c514e64o0&pid=15.1&P=0&w=300&h=300