To fight most of his main US rivals? All the other greats did..
-Mosley fought prime Oscar, Forrest, & Wright.
-SRL fought Hearns & Hagler.
-Oscar fought Hopkins & Mosley.
-Hopkins fought Wright, Joppy & Taylor.
-Jones fought Toney, Hopkins & Tarver.
Floyd fought Judah.
I know he fought Mosley & Oscar but they needed a piss bag by this point due to incontinence! Floyd is almost the Chad Dawson of WW's in this respect! Tim Bradley? Paul Williams? Keith Thurman? Why not?!
LOL, That's like saying Tarver doesn't have a good win or RJJ, as he just lost to Enzo Macrinelli (however you spell it)
The only thing wrong here is both these fighters have gone on way too long, Mosley should have retired after Alverez, and RJJ after Hopkins
Didn't you know Frazier's win over Ali is weak because Ali lost to Berbick and is 56-5. LOL!!
I think he was joking. If not, This site needs to screen members better.
Mosley has 10 losses and just lost to David avenysan!!11 Not a good win for Floyd
LOL, That's like saying Tarver doesn't have a good win or RJJ, as he just lost to Enzo Macrinelli (however you spell it)
The only thing wrong here is both these fighters have gone on way too long, Mosley should have retired after Alverez, and RJJ after Hopkins
:lol1: yup.
People can say what they want to now, but there were posters who had to take to posting on their Alt accounts because of that Mosley fight.
There were guys screaming from the rooftops that Floyd was scared to death of Mosley. How "shook" he was when Mosley confronted him, etc.
'bout round 6 they started singing a different tune.
Mosley has 10 losses and just lost to David avenysan!!11 Not a good win for Floyd
Mayweather did pick and choose to remain undefeated but maybe we can blame it on the times. It has been the trend for a while and I can't say if he started it or not.
who would you bet your house on to beat him, that he didnt fight?
im sure it wouldnt be guys like Freitas, Margarito(literally lost to every elite fighter he faced), or paul williams who lost to friggin carlos quintana
Only guys I'd favor over him are guys that were literally too damn big, like Winky wright who was a career junior middleweight and has fought as high as 170
Leonard waited for Hagler to get passed his prime and still lost in the eyes of many people.
Hopkins was 39 when Oscar fought him, most people would argue that is passed prime. And Hopkins went on to lose to Jermaine Taylor twice the following year.
We can pick apart other peoples resumes just as easily. Floyd fought plenty of prime guys. It's just that many of them were not seen as special talents even though they all won world titles. Maidana, Castillo, Guerrero, Hatton were all prime world champions when Floyd fought them but none of them were stand out talents.
Maidana with pillow gloves only... pf.
Mayweather did pick and choose to remain undefeated but maybe we can blame it on the times. It has been the trend for a while and I can't say if he started it or not.
:lol1: yup.
People can say what they want to now, but there were posters who had to take to posting on their Alt accounts because of that Mosley fight.
There were guys screaming from the rooftops that Floyd was scared to death of Mosley. How "shook" he was when Mosley confronted him, etc.
'bout round 6 they started singing a different tune.
The only ones not changing their tunes were sleep from jerking themselves to death during round 2.
Floyd Mayweather Jr was calling out anyone and everyone when he beat Jose Luis Castillo for the belt twice; everyone 147 on down looked at Floyd, saw what he was doing to people, saw the potential money involved, and refused to even have management whisper about wanting that work.
Floyd takes 25/75 and the full 154 weight to face De La Hoya, whooped that ass, steps into the spot of cash cow, and now everybody and their grandpa is stepping out to fight Floyd.
you can tell when someone hasnt followed the sport very long....Mayweather was being ducked by many until he became a cash cow in 2007
young floyd at 130-140 was calling out anyone that was willing to fight from 130-154
I even had a ring magazine when he was lightweight champion and he said that he wanted to prove he could beat anyone in the world from 154 on down...that was like in 2003...I never thought he'd win titles at 140-154
he really showed how great he was the last ten years of his career.
To fight most of his main US rivals? All the other greats did..
-Mosley fought prime Oscar, Forrest, & Wright.
-SRL fought Hearns & Hagler.
-Oscar fought Hopkins & Mosley.
-Hopkins fought Wright, Joppy & Taylor.
-Jones fought Toney, Hopkins & Tarver.
Floyd fought Judah.
I know he fought Mosley & Oscar but they needed a piss bag by this point due to incontinence! Floyd is almost the Chad Dawson of WW's in this respect! Tim Bradley? Paul Williams? Keith Thurman? Why not?!
Floyd Mayweather Jr was calling out anyone and everyone when he beat Jose Luis Castillo for the belt twice; everyone 147 on down looked at Floyd, saw what he was doing to people, saw the potential money involved, and refused to even have management whisper about wanting that work.
Floyd takes 25/75 and the full 154 weight to face De La Hoya, whooped that ass, steps into the spot of cash cow, and now everybody and their grandpa is stepping out to fight Floyd.
Wasnt Mosley like number 1 p4p at that time?I can remember everyone saying he was scared of Mosley.
:lol1: yup.
People can say what they want to now, but there were posters who had to take to posting on their Alt accounts because of that Mosley fight.
There were guys screaming from the rooftops that Floyd was scared to death of Mosley. How "shook" he was when Mosley confronted him, etc.
'bout round 6 they started singing a different tune.
You know there is another way of looking at things. De La Hoya and Mosley made Mayweather wait and they made him jump up the weight classes. Floyd was calling them out for years but he wasn't worth their time. He fought them out of his prime and above his natural weight. He walked with the Ws.
Come on now.. Corrales? Latino fighter tailor made for a slick boxer like Floyd..
Bradley & Williams were probably his two main prime US rivals really. When I say reluctance to fight his US rivals.. I should be more specific. The slicker & more athletic kind. Once he went black (Judah) he barely went back!
The same Tim Bradley who was fighting at 140lbs and never won a world title even won a title at 140 until Mayweather had already been to 154 then back to 147? Come on, you need to do better than that. Bradley's nearest thing to a rival back then were guys like Alexander and Peterson. He's only been fighting at Welterweight for 4 years now. There was nobody ever calling for that fight.
You can't just be selective with names and ignore certain fights that happened too or re-write history to the point where things that weren't even being talked about then seem important now.
It's like people who say Calzaghe should have fought Froch. The reality is that Froch was unknown and fighting in European title fights when Calzaghe was retiring. It's just wasn't even a fight that made sense at the time but people just make things up like it would have been a big fight. Much like Bradley v Floyd, it was never much of a possibility or a fight anyone cared about. Hardly a rival.
For a poster who joined in 2008 you show a complete lack of knowledge. I get you want to crap on Floyd but at least do it in an intelligent way that shows you joined this site because you are a fan of the sport.
Tim Bradley said he wasn't chasing a Floyd fight when he signed with TR. Thats why that fight didn't happen. williams lost to Quintana when Floyd was "retired" and had gone up to 154 by the time Floyd came back. Floyd fought Maidana and Manny, both ranked higher than Thurman at the time he fought them.
He could've fought Thurman in his last fight. Not fighting him surely isn't a big deal, but it would've been better than Berto. Or were you expecting floyd to fight him earlier than this?
To fight most of his main US rivals? All the other greats did..
-Mosley fought prime Oscar, Forrest, & Wright.
-SRL fought Hearns & Hagler.
-Oscar fought Hopkins & Mosley.
-Hopkins fought Wright, Joppy & Taylor.
-Jones fought Toney, Hopkins & Tarver.
Floyd fought Judah.
I know he fought Mosley & Oscar but they needed a piss bag by this point due to incontinence! Floyd is almost the Chad Dawson of WW's in this respect! Tim Bradley? Paul Williams? Keith Thurman? Why not?!
bwahahahahahahahaha
:poke:
A gennady gargler talking about somone's competition level.
By the time Floyd was 25 he had a better resume than GGG has.... after 35 fights and ten plus years as a pro....pretty damn pathetic
That's funny, I seem to remember most people saying Floyd would NEVER fight Mosley when Mosley had KO'd Margarito and jumped into the ring in during Floyd's interview after the JMM fight. Go back on this forum and look. Just remind me...who did Floyd then fight in his next fight?...
Also, let's not act like Hopkins was considered a serious threat or rival to Jones back in 1993. He was basically just seen as a decent opponent then.
Also, why are we missing off Diego Corrales off the list, wasn't he expected to hand Floyd his first defeat in the eyes of many people? How did that one turn out...
I'm not even a big Floyd fan but if you're going to try to make a case, you can't be selective and pick and choose what you want to include.
Come on now.. Corrales? Latino fighter tailor made for a slick boxer like Floyd..
Bradley & Williams were probably his two main prime US rivals really. When I say reluctance to fight his US rivals.. I should be more specific. The slicker & more athletic kind. Once he went black (Judah) he barely went back!