Comments Thread For: Muhammad Ali's Doctor Doubts Boxing Caused Ali's Parkinson's

lol, ok simple minded mfer. Good one. :tool:

Its simple multiple blows to the head over time cause brain damage naybe not parkinsons but ali may have had a combination of things going on.

your an idiot

Ha, look its one of them guys. Ali absorbs massive amounts of punishment to the head later on in his career and sadly as it turns out he could take it with out getting KOed. He was plainly slurring his speech at the end but yea that had nothing to do with the condition he had, you know the one with his brain. Its plainly obvious to anyone that can think for themselves and doesnt rely on someone else to do it for them that repeated blows to the head by 200lb + world class athletes might cause some problems down the line. Is it the only factor? I dont know. Maybe he would have come down with it anyway but to believe it didnt have anything to do with it is naive and to be honest is a slow mans way of thinking. Here is an idea, go listen to Evander Holyfield, Thomas Hearns, James Toney or better yet Terry Norris. They all have a little bit or a lot of what Ali had going on and its just going to get worse for them. Terry Norris has parkinsons.

Wtf does speech being slurred have to do with Parkinson's? You're a f*cking idiot. Trying to argue something that has been researched by way more knowledgeable people than me and you. I think I'll take their word over yours. lol, ok simple minded mfer.

Ha, look its one of them guys. Ali absorbs massive amounts of punishment to the head later on in his career and sadly as it turns out he could take it with out getting KOed. He was plainly slurring his speech at the end but yea that had nothing to do with the condition he had, you know the one with his brain. Its plainly obvious to anyone that can think for themselves and doesnt rely on someone else to do it for them that repeated blows to the head by 200lb + world class athletes might cause some problems down the line. Is it the only factor? I dont know. Maybe he would have come down with it anyway but to believe it didnt have anything to do with it is naive and to be honest is a slow mans way of thinking. Here is an idea, go listen to Evander Holyfield, Thomas Hearns, James Toney or better yet Terry Norris. They all have a little bit or a lot of what Ali had going on and its just going to get worse for them. Wtf does speech being slurred have to do with Parkinson's? You're a f*cking idiot. Trying to argue something that has been researched by way more knowledgeable people than me and you. I think I'll take their word over yours.

You ever heard of the legendary flyweight Michael J Fox? Used to drive a cool Delorion and was pretty good on a skateboard Sorry.. Never heard of her.

Regardless of his wins the horrific punishment took from Joe, George & especially the 3rd Norton bout + Larry sure didn't help, evn that 1st bout vs Leon......the Dr's comment seemed 2 b based on no personal medical knowledge... And yet he was one of the Doctor's that originally diagnosed him in the first place? I'd call that personal medical knowledge.

Regardless of his wins the horrific punishment took from Joe, George & especially the 3rd Norton bout + Larry sure didn't help, evn that 1st bout vs Leon......the Dr's comment seemed 2 b based on no personal medical knowledge...

What exactly did he stand for? Practically anyone who was famous or had money weaseled out of the draft. Ali just used the racist sect of Islam he joined as a copout and hippies thought it was "counter-culture" enough to consider cool. He wasn't a good person and seemed rather dense. He was just good at boxing. No matter how much you like boxing we all know deep down society is in a better place without people like him present. Then why couldn't Joe Louis, Jackie Robinson, and tons of other Black athletes get out of drafts? The bottom line is, Vietnam was a bull**** war. It is universally accepted as that, even by a lot of conservatives at this point. You're General Custer at this point, fighting a losing battle. Vietnam was a critical theater against the expansion of Soviet/Chinese control. Like with all modern wars, the geopolitical situation wasn't simple enough for the media to translate to average retards -- so they dumbed down the reasoning for the public, said we're going in to give them freedom and hamburgers. I love how you think that wars that kill millions of people are "critical theatre". Please, send your children and grandchildren to be actors in some dumb ass pissing contest between super powers.

People complaining about Ali's anti war stance, why dont they go and sign up to the army? He is right, why kill people that did nothing to him? Anyway, Ali said it right... if it was meant to happen, it will happen. What a champ and hero.

Can someone mentioned other fighters that have / had Parkinson disease appart from Roach and Ali? You ever heard of the legendary flyweight Michael J Fox? Used to drive a cool Delorion and was pretty good on a skateboard

Well, he is full of shiet imo... Didnt read the article so if its another misleading headline ma bad. Believe it or not there are plenty of people with Parkinson's that never got hit once in their entire life

I said this a couple of times, IMO he did not have Parkinson disease from boxing, but on the other hand I think that boxing fastened the progression of the disease itself. If he was not a boxer IMO he still would have had the disease but later on in his life. Can someone mentioned other fighters that have / had Parkinson disease appart from Roach and Ali?

This is the same bs as the NFL claiming they didn't damage their brains playing. If that's the case, why are so many ex and even current fighters slurring their words. Maybe it didn't cause his Parkinsons, but had they analyzed his brain, or maybe the family will let them, we'll see. CTE, punch drunkenness, whatever you want to call it, and parkinson's are very different things. as far as i know, nobody has been able to make the association between the damage ali took and parkinson's. i don't think there has ever been a link demonstrated between any boxer and parkinson's disease. again, i might be missing something. CTE can only be diagnosed with a biopsy of the brain after death. it's caused by repeated, subconcussyve head trauma and also big time, catastrophic head trauma you can get parkinson's without head trauma. CTE is caused by head trauma. the NFL is fighting tooth and nail to keep their sport alive. my guess is that football will be a niche sport in 50 years. once great athletes are going to start to lose their minds in their 40's and 50's, and once these cases become epidemic people are goign to stop letting their kids play football. it will go the wya of boxing, where kids will only play football if they've got little else, and are pushed towards it.

It was Fraser... The gods punished Ali for his arrogance, for humiliating a good man.

That's contrary to the statements of Dr Stanley Fahn, the head physician that conducted the tests at the Columbia-Presbyterian Medical Centre. l'd also question why there's no direct quote plus the article that this is gleamed from also went on to state: "Ali once calculated he had taken 29,000 punches to the head. And there’s no research on what so many blows might cause." An outrageously ignorant statement.

Clay/Ali was no American hero and Clay was a bigoted man who actually hated America as a country. Not sure what the big deal about Clay is being made as the guy wouldn't defend his country when asked. The non American Clay should be treated not as a hero but as a good boxer who entertained the fans. But all in all Clay hated white people and for what America stood for. Clays religion hates also. Ignore the attention and honor those true American heroes who fought for and died for our Country. Those are the real heroes not big mouthed Clay. What exactly did he stand for? Practically anyone who was famous or had money weaseled out of the draft. Ali just used the racist sect of Islam he joined as a copout and hippies thought it was "counter-culture" enough to consider cool. He wasn't a good person and seemed rather dense. He was just good at boxing. No matter how much you like boxing we all know deep down society is in a better place without people like him present. green k sent!!

I honestly think we'd see more fighters with parkinsons than Ali if boxing was the cause of it. Other boxers have taken way more punishment than him, and they've ended up with other conditions, but not parkinsons.

Not a cause but a major risk factor. Yes it is idiopathic but heavy head trauma over 20 years doesn't do your brain any favours.