David Haye gets #3 ranking with IBF!

Parker-Haye to happen please

yeah it's on youtube. Like how Haye's last opponent learned how to box :lol1:

So your worried about Haye being rank #3 but didn't have concerns about Kell Brooks mandatory in Jo Jo Dan and Bizier? Yes, obviously that's why I'm writing this post.

Remember these guys exist on sanctioning fees. Haye is a massive draw in the UK and the IBF can smell a massive payout if he fights Joshua. They're just staking their claim early.

Ibf is a joke... I don't mind if Haye cracks the top 10 or 15 due to his past history, but top 3 or even 5 is absurd..

Ibf is a joke... I don't mind if Haye cracks the top 10 or 15 due to his past history, but top 3 or even 5 is absurd..

Was he before the fight? Haye's last opponent was #23 on Boxrec before the fight i believe. as far as i can tell he was not much higher. he certainly wasn't anywhere near the top 10, and yet somehow he got a ranking right before his fight with haye.. suspish, so say the least.

This is why I had to laugh when people were trying to paint the IBF as some sort of saint among sanctioning orgs for sticking to their guns in stripping Fury. They're just as full of BS as all the others.

Wouldn't surprise me if Hearn got IBF to fiddle the ratings a bit to make things a little easier to push through a Haye v AJ fight next summer without any problems in terms of fulfilling mandatories and voluntaries in regards to Joshua's belt, it's just one less obstacle to think about. Most of his champs are IBF and his other fighters get a lot of IBF shots, so he's obviously in tight with them. IBF would go along with that knowing what they can make from it. This is essentially how things work these days isn't it? Same with Warren and WBO. He's always been able to get fighters rankings and moved about into mandatory spots with WBO for years now and still does.

The IBF just made themselves a couple hundred grand when Haye fights Joshua in the UK in summer 2017 😂. Gotta respect that hustle lol.

Last months ratings. 1 NOT RATED 2 NOT RATED 3 Carlos Takam France 4 Joseph Parker New Zealand 5 Kubrat Pulev Bulgaria 6 Derek Chisora Zimbabwe 7 Vyacheslav Glazkov Ukraine 8 Andy Ruiz Mexico 9 Charles Martin United States 10 Johan Duhaupas France 11 David Haye United Kingdom 12 Eric Molina United States 13 Dominic Breazeale United States 14 Hugie Fury England 15 Jarrell Miller United States Fighters losing and everyone being bumped up 2 spots is why he's moved up so high. -duhaupas fought and beat helenius? That's literally better than anything Haye has done at HW this decade, maybe ever.

That De Mori guy was top 10 with one of the Orgs. Don't know about the second plumber. It's not surprising though because I think we've all been around boxing long enough to know all of the sanctioning bodies ranking are complete and utter sh*t and hold no weight what so ever. That's true WBA.

Because Joshua has the belt, and him v Joshua is the big fight next summer. IBF want some of that stadium fight money. Yep that's got to be the only reason. The IBF has always been the ugly sister, now she might get a date to the prom...

he's not in the top 100 according to the boxrec, which, according to the managers i used to deal with who had to consider the "rankings" of fighters outside of the conventional top 10, is what it used. boxrec is a computer generated ranking system, so it isn't perfect, but it's the only way you can find an objective ranking criteria for fighters who may be ranked outside of the top 100. de mori was nowhere near being one of the 10 best HW in the world. he was possibly scouted as a haye opponent, and ranked for the purpose of furthering haye's career. that's how sanctioning bodies operate. they're not objective, altruistic organizations. This is how Haye has always operated at heavyweight. He looks for an easy opponent he can defend in some way and goes from there. Monte Barrett was top 10 in some set of rankings, "the public demanded" Harrison, De Mori was ranked by one organisation, Gjergjaj had a long unbeaten record etc. He's currently in the process of building the "public demand" narrative for Briggs or Bellew. My thinking is that he's been offered a Joshua fight next year. Right now he's just trying to make money until he gets there.

i see david price has entered the rankings too... more cannon fodder for joshua Haye vs Price in an eliminator for Joshua and everybody gets rich...

Haye is undeserving so nothing new here but it isn't surprising to see this, he's had these high rankings previously while being very inactive. Marketability goes a long way and he sells tickets, believe it or not.

Meh.........

De Mori was #10 in the WBA rankings. he's not in the top 100 according to the boxrec, which, according to the managers i used to deal with who had to consider the "rankings" of fighters outside of the conventional top 10, is what it used. boxrec is a computer generated ranking system, so it isn't perfect, but it's the only way you can find an objective ranking criteria for fighters who may be ranked outside of the top 100. de mori was nowhere near being one of the 10 best HW in the world. he was possibly scouted as a haye opponent, and ranked for the purpose of furthering haye's career. that's how sanctioning bodies operate. they're not objective, altruistic organizations.

i put zero stock into the belts personally. you are reading my posts all wrong, or haven't paid enough attention into my posts in the past to be able to evaluate how i feel about alphabet belts but it is a reality that they're a significant factor in the promotion of lower tier fights, and particularly fights at american casinos. Personally, I've gotten pissed off with worrying about the corruption in rankings so I look for the silver lining. The way I see it, Joshua vs Haye is infinitely better than, for example, Joshua vs Pulev, even though the latter may be more deserving of the ranking based on recent opponents.

Well, pragmatically we aren't going to get a totally fair system. Haye has proved himself in the past and is a better fighter than everyone else on that list, Parker included imo. I think the problem you have is that you put too much stock in the belts. The belt means absolutely nada. There are too many of them to worry about who is ranked where. Anthony Joshua, a man who has only beat absolute scrubs, is a champion if you put any stock in the belts. He beat Charles Martin to get there, a man whose opponents were even worse than Haye's recent ones and a man who has done absolutely nothing in his whole career. Time to accept that there isn't any fairness in boxing. Everybody knows the real champion is the man who the IBF stripped anyway so all this is irrelevant. i put zero stock into the belts personally. you are reading my posts all wrong, or haven't paid enough attention into my posts in the past to be able to evaluate how i feel about alphabet belts but it is a reality that they're a significant factor in the promotion of lower tier fights, and particularly fights at american casinos. the "fairest" system is an objective system by which fighters are ranked, and then the rankings evolve based on the results of fights. you can't do away with that completely because alphabets aren't capable of being impartial. that's where TBRB, ring mag, ESPN, try to jump in. again, they're not perfect, but we can't abandon ranking fighters just because of the sanctioning belts.