Its been clear that no1 discusses fantasy fights with mayweather @ 130-140 because

that fight was not realistic floyd hadnt even fought at 147 or 154 and was barely over 140 the day after fight only people who wanted a fight with Wright to happen is people who wanted to see him lose margarito bro....come on........ fight a no name with a trinket or the lineal champ who just beat a star in Gatti and former champion Judah...Margo also lost to a PROSPECT IN 2007....PAUL WILLIAMS...that was his undoing. Mayweather ended up fighting ODLH and Hatton in the 2 of the biggest fights in recent history...margarito brought nothing to the table besides Bob Arum "Most feared" hype lol imo it was a joke...id have rather seen wright fight hopkins for the title at that time. but it was floyd who called out winky. winky accepted and floyd ran. thats why i dont take floyd's call outs of hoya seriously. he was just using their names. hoya was also 2-3 divisions bigger and basing it on floyd's behavior he would have ran from hoya as well(until he got old that is) and you are using the same flawed argument as always. it was either baldomir or margarito! no. not it was not. he had a chance to fight marg and he chose sharmba mitchell, zab judah coming off a loss, and then baldomir instead of marg. he brought nothing to the table hmmm yeah except a lot more money. i thought floyd was money mayweather what happened? he also brought a mexican fanbase which floyd catered to for most of his ppvs. also pretty funny how losing to one of the best ww's was marg's undoing but judah losing to a journeyman still landed him the fight. even after marg beat cotto floyd could have returned and beat him but he did not. the williams loss was enough to kill the fight forever! floyd fan logic.

Castillo arguably beat him at his best weight. Floyd is an ATG and yes he was his best when he actually let his hands go at the lower weights but I'm sure there are guys throughout history who could have beaten him or gave him hell at least. Duran just being one

in a all time welterweight tournament he'd take some losses...there are weight classes for a reason....floyd is a great fighter who was able to suceed at 147 but he is by no means an all time great WW but a great fighter who won the ww title exactly..now explain this to larry, dunn, and co. but make sure you have plenty of tissue on hand...

De Jesus was great. He's not TBE but homeboy was a speedball addicted wood chipper. That boy would put the bang thang on your chin. If his parents were smarter and conceived him at a later time to avoid Duran,he would've been champion much longer. Unfortunately his final fight was when he was only 28. His later life was tragic. The drugs,AIDS,and wars with Duran had taken it's toll and he died at 37. I read rumors of a return about 6 or 7 years ago but I highly doubt he does. DeJesus was a good fighter but he lost all of his big fights and what he did best...his footwork, left hook and counters....floyd did those things better...

because there isn't much to question about Floyd from 130-140...he took on and beat the best guys in their primes at those weights, outside of a prime undefeated hatton @ 147... hell even pernell and Duran would need a trilogy against Floyd @ 130-140... @ 147 you try to convince one of these Floyd loyalists that he could actually lose...in a all time welterweight tournament he'd take some losses...there are weight classes for a reason....floyd is a great fighter who was able to suceed at 147 but he is by no means an all time great WW but a great fighter who won the ww title

why are his fantasy fights that are discussed on this site always at 147...the guys started at 130 and was at his peak at 130-140.....147-154 were just classes he was champ in because he is great fighter not a great welterweight per say because there isn't much to question about Floyd from 130-140...he took on and beat the best guys in their primes at those weights, outside of a prime undefeated hatton @ 147... hell even pernell and Duran would need a trilogy against Floyd @ 130-140... @ 147 you try to convince one of these Floyd loyalists that he could actually lose...

esteban.....dejesus good fighter...not an all time great like floyd nor as talented but gave Duran his toughest fights below 147 De Jesus was great. He's not TBE but homeboy was a speedball addicted wood chipper. That boy would put the bang thang on your chin. If his parents were smarter and conceived him at a later time to avoid Duran,he would've been champion much longer. Unfortunately his final fight was when he was only 28. His later life was tragic. The drugs,AIDS,and wars with Duran had taken it's toll and he died at 37. I read rumors of a return about 6 or 7 years ago but I highly doubt he does.

yes mayweather was a great fighter. think most people are aware of that, not sure what the point of the thread was... ...try reading the OP

he had his chance to fight winky but he did the old floyd bluff and when winky agreed he changed his demands. he wouldn't even fight guys like stevie johnston or margarito so im not sure what guys were ducking him. guys 2 or 3 divisions above him hmmm yea not very plausible. plus he wasnt popular so there was no demand for those fights. floyd was just using their names to build himself up like he says people do with him nowadays. when someone popular agreed to fight him like winky he quickly shrank away like normal. using the evidence we have and knowing how floyd operates if hoya had agreed to figth him back then and floyd would have had to move up 2 or 3 divisions he more than likely shrinks away or asks for something silly to kill the fight like always. that fight was not realistic floyd hadnt even fought at 147 or 154 and was barely over 140 the day after fight only people who wanted a fight with Wright to happen is people who wanted to see him lose margarito bro....come on........ fight a no name with a trinket or the lineal champ who just beat a star in Gatti and former champion Judah...Margo also lost to a PROSPECT IN 2007....PAUL WILLIAMS...that was his undoing. Mayweather ended up fighting ODLH and Hatton in the 2 of the biggest fights in recent history...margarito brought nothing to the table besides Bob Arum "Most feared" hype lol imo it was a joke...id have rather seen wright fight hopkins for the title at that time.

naw...people didnt know who he was until he started acting an azz...from 1996-2007 pretty boy floyd was the high risk low reward fighter of the ODLH, Jones era. he had his chance to fight winky but he did the old floyd bluff and when winky agreed he changed his demands. he wouldn't even fight guys like stevie johnston or margarito so im not sure what guys were ducking him. guys 2 or 3 divisions above him hmmm yea not very plausible. plus he wasnt popular so there was no demand for those fights. floyd was just using their names to build himself up like he says people do with him nowadays. when someone popular agreed to fight him like winky he quickly shrank away like normal. using the evidence we have and knowing how floyd operates if hoya had agreed to figth him back then and floyd would have had to move up 2 or 3 divisions he more than likely shrinks away or asks for something silly to kill the fight like always.

his level of comp was pretty crappy for the most part. maybe 3 fights against top guys over 3 divisions and 1 he lost. gonna go with a big meh and also a :smashfrea

No not at 135 pounds bro esteban.....dejesus good fighter...not an all time great like floyd nor as talented but gave Duran his toughest fights below 147

He had his best wins at 147 and up...maybe that's why. :/ And lmfao ^^^ naw...people didnt know who he was until he started acting an azz...from 1996-2007 pretty boy floyd was the high risk low reward fighter of the ODLH, Jones era.

I'm not going to debate a Door Knob typical nsb...if a person doesnt agree with you then they are an idiot lol

You score a fight round by round and there is just no way for me to find 7 rounds that Castillo won, or even 6. Mayweather's shoulder was mush by the start of round 11 and Castillo probably got half his power punches for the whole fight landed in those last two rounds, but he was already down 8-2 or 7-3 before that and contrary to what people remember most of the rounds weren't that tough to score. The impression those last two rounds gave are what has lasted, but round by round, even if you scored the close rounds for Castillo, the best you can come up within a 6-6 fight, or a draw, but that's really really pushing it. Madaina came closer to beating Mayweather than Castillo did, and you know what? Mayweather gave Madaina an immediate rematch too, Floyd has been in 2 close fights his whole career and gave both guys immediate rematch and beat them more decisively the second time around, he doesn't get nearly enough credit for that. Especially fighting Madaina again after how dirty he was, no one would have blamed Floyd for not fighting a dirty Madaina a second time. Imagine if Leonard would have given Hagler an immediate rematch and then beat him more decisively the second fight. I'm not going to debate a Door Knob

Castillo out worked him in every stat Jabs landed, Power Punches, body punches Landed I believe he beat him by over 100 power punches and Floyd is up 6 rounds to 0 man someone needs to Slap you silly. Trust me Floyd never dislocated his shoulder the bone pops up in the air and the pain is excruciating and you can't hold your arm up it goes down and you can't lift it. I know thats what ended my Nephews amateur career. Floyd never had surgery to correct this and you can't box after a dislocation The Labrum tears meaning all the Cartilage that surrounds the ball and socket of the joint is torn and the surgeon must remove it than anchors are place to hold the joint if you continue to box those anchors just rip off. Happen to my nephew and I know some Jerk off will say Vitali dislocated well he didn't he had a rotator cuff tear totally different You score a fight round by round and there is just no way for me to find 7 rounds that Castillo won, or even 6. Mayweather's shoulder was mush by the start of round 11 and Castillo probably got half his power punches for the whole fight landed in those last two rounds, but he was already down 8-2 or 7-3 before that and contrary to what people remember most of the rounds weren't that tough to score. The impression those last two rounds gave are what has lasted, but round by round, even if you scored the close rounds for Castillo, the best you can come up within a 6-6 fight, or a draw, but that's really really pushing it. Madaina came closer to beating Mayweather than Castillo did, and you know what? Mayweather gave Madaina an immediate rematch too, Floyd has been in 2 close fights his whole career and gave both guys immediate rematch and beat them more decisively the second time around, he doesn't get nearly enough credit for that. Especially fighting Madaina again after how dirty he was, no one would have blamed Floyd for not fighting a dirty Madaina a second time. Imagine if Leonard would have given Hagler an immediate rematch and then beat him more decisively the second fight.

Fair enough Roberto Duran v Floyd Mayweather at 132 pounds. Roberto Duran v Floyd mayweather at 140 pounds Roberto Duran v Floyd Mayweather at 147 pounds Roberto Duran v Floyd Mayweather at 154 pounds Roberto Duran v Floyd Mayweather at caneloweight Roberto Duran v Floyd Mayweather at 160 pounds. Duran...my man :boxing::ROCK:

Chavez was a much better fighter than Castillo. You are right that they had different styles and strong points. Chavez punched harder, took a punch better and was harder to hit cleanly. Chavez also worked the body better and finished stronger. Chavez had a much longer prime and was far more consistent. Casillo is generally remembered as a very good fighter in his somewhat short prime while Chavez is always remembered as a great fighter. after a fight like Castillo-Corrales 1...no fighter would be the same. Castillo had a solid 5-6 years where he was the class of the 135 pound division and a yearly p4p entrant that being said. I think JCC is a bit too methodical and is quite as dirty as JLC....he rought guys up more with grabbing and hitting, low blows, hip shots, any thing to land. JCC was more nice and neat. A fighter being greater doesnt mean they'll deal with a particular style better or fighter. JLC dealt with boxers and movers a lot better than JCC. He also cut the ring off better, had a better jab, and could actually counter from the outside working his way in. I think Mayweather vs JCC at their absolute best would be a good fight but a clear win for mayweather who would outbox the methodical jcc on a pivot and counter his ears off. JCC will get it done more inside but mayweather is also a very good inside fighter and off the ropes. JCC is great inside but many people forget he got worked over inside by whitaker. 8-4 mayweather.....JCC is a slow starter and by the time he warms up mayweather will have his timing and distance down

The reason is that most of the people who post on this message board never saw Floyd fight at 130, 135 and 140. They talk a lot about the fight with Castillo, but 98 percent of them never actually saw the fight. Also, talking about his performances at 130-140 would kill the hater's buzz because no one can argue that he didn't fight or beat the best opponents in those divisions. Another person's sees it this way. I felt this way about it at times. preaching to the choir in the bolded. we do have youtube. wish these casual azz fans would watch some boxing before 2010

DeJesus beat Duran and Floyd is better than him , Floyd is better than most who beat Duran . Floyd would out box Duran for UD . But, but, but he didn't take that fight seriously so he didn't train properly. He was also partying.