where is the brittle hands excuse then?
when he's not knocking down/out opponents = brittle hands
when he knocks marquez down
when he knocks hatton out
when he knocks josie harris out that even wotihout the protection of hand wraps and medical gloves
when he knocks ortiz out - where's the brittle hands excuse?
I don't know, where is the excuse?
It's just because he's not knocking guys out left and right.
He wouldn't be able to cut guys' work rates in half if they didn't respect his power.
He's not a 'power puncher' but he's got enough to get your respect.
Also, brittle hands, doe.
This.......
He knocked Marquez down in 2009.
John isn't saying Mayweather is knocking people out left and right.
where is the brittle hands excuse then?
when he's not knocking down/out opponents = brittle hands
when he knocks marquez down
when he knocks hatton out
when he knocks josie harris out that even wotihout the protection of hand wraps and medical gloves
when he knocks ortiz out - where's the brittle hands excuse?
It's just because he's not knocking guys out left and right.
He wouldn't be able to cut guys' work rates in half if they didn't respect his power.
He's not a 'power puncher' but he's got enough to get your respect.
Also, brittle hands, doe.
it was not brittle when he knocks oriiz off
it was not brittle when he kocks hatton off.
It's his speed, accuracy and defense that makes fighters hesitate to come at him.
He connects with a very high percentage on his power shots yet he rarely ever rocks guys. He'd have a lot of knock downs if he had above average power with the the accuracy he lands his power shots but he doesn't.
He has very brittle hands that he'd break them if he wen't for KO's. He has average to below average power in his WW days. Earlier in his career when his hands were still holding up and he was fighting at a lower weight then he had above average power.
He had a decent knockout percentage at Super Featherweight (probably his natural/optimal weight). Brittle hands and moving up in weight so of course he's not going to get as many knockouts.
You could argue Hopkins is the same, how many guys has he knocked out above middleweight? People seem to forget where Floyd started his career. I think he has enough power to keep people honest. Ricky Hatton walked through a power puncher like kostya tszyu but was badly hurt by some of Mayweather shots.
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Probably because of all the fighters who have taken his punches and said he doesn't hit very hard. Just an observation. There have been a slew of fights (like against Pacquiao) where he has just got finished with punching someone in the face all night and they don't have a scratch or bruise on them. He has average power at best.
He knocked Marquez down in 2009.
John isn't saying Mayweather is knocking people out left and right.
That's true.
Yeah I get that :lol1:
I know. He's saying people think Mayweather doesn't have power, because he isn't knocking people out left and right.
And I simply said that even if Mayweather just had a couple of knockouts in the last 10 or so years, maybe people would respect his power more. He doesn't have to knock people out left and right to be considered powerful.
And then he got into a hissyfit.
I'm confused? You said people don't think Mayweather has power because he's not knocking guys out left and right.
It seems like you're the confused one since Mayweather hasn't had a legit KO or even a knockdown since Ricky Hatton in 2007. That's hardly equating "knocking people out left and right"
A couple of KOs or even KDs since then would have been good to sway people's opinion.
He knocked Marquez down in 2009.
John isn't saying Mayweather is knocking people out left and right.
Floyd is a boxer/puncher. Meaning if he settle down on his punches more for power, he'll get more stoppages.
However, he did had decent pop in his punches; Especially earlier in his career in the lower weigh classes, when his hands were less brittle. He threw a lot more more punches then. In addition, he put enough combination punches together to score knockouts.
However, in the advanced stages of career, he has become more reluctant in doing so by letting his hands go. He has become more of a safety first defensive fighter, who doesn't like to take an awful lot of chances or risks in the ring.
Perhaps. it is due to his lack of size, the fact that his hands are degenerating from many years of physical abuse or from the fear of being countered by a punch he doesn't see.
In any case, today he has become a twelve round fighter, with very low punch volume; To the point of potshotting, clinching and moving away from his opponents in order to secure a points victory.
He has decent pop in his punches; Especially earlier in his career in the lower weigh classes, when his hands were less brittle. He threw a lot more more punches then. In addition, he put enough combination punches together to score knockouts.
However, in the advanced stages of career, he has become more reluctant in doing so by letting his hands go. He has become more of a safety first defensive fighter, who doesn't like to take an awful lot of chances or risks in the ring.
Perhaps. it is due to the fact that his hands are degenerating from years of physical abuse or from the fear of being countered by a punch he doesn't see..
In any case, today he has become a twelve round fighter, with very low punch volume; To the point of potshotting, clinching and moving away from his opponents in order to secure a points victory
He has decent pop in his punches; Especially earlier in his career in the lower weigh classes, when his hands were less brittle. He threw a lot more more punches then. In addition, he put enough combination punches together to score knockouts.
However, in the advanced stages of career, he has become more reluctant in doing so by letting his hands go. He has become more of a safety first defensive fighter, who doesn't like to take an awful lot of chances or risks in the ring.
Perhaps. it is due to the fact that his hands are degenerating from years of physical abuse or from the fear of being countered by a punch he doesn;r see..
In any case, today he has become a twelve round fighter, with very low punch volume; To the point of potshotting, clinching and moving away from his opponents in order to secure a points victory.
He has decent pop in his punches; Especially earlier in his career in the lower weigh classes, when his hands were less brittle. He threw a lot more more then. In addition, he put enough combination punches together to score knockouts.
However, in the advanced stages of career, he has become more reluctant in doing so by letting his hands go. He has become more of a safety first defensive fighter, who doesn't like to take an awful lot of chances or risks in the ring.
Perhaps. it is due to the fact that his hands are degenerating from years of physical abuse or from the fear of being countered by a punch he doesn;r see..
In any case, today he has become a twelve round fighter, with very low punch volume; To the point of potshotting, clinching and moving away from his opponents in order to secure a points victory.
He had a decent knockout percentage at Super Featherweight (probably his natural/optimal weight). Brittle hands and moving up in weight so of course he's not going to get as many knockouts.
You could argue Hopkins is the same, how many guys has he knocked out above middleweight? People seem to forget where Floyd started his career. I think he has enough power to keep people honest. Ricky Hatton walked through a power puncher like kostya tszyu but was badly hurt by some of Mayweather shots.
No offence to you lace but I think you got this wrong, read his post again. I don't think you understand what johnm was trying to imply in your post.
I completely get it. But I just highlighted that not knocking guys out left and right isn't the same as not having a legit KO in 10 years.