More frustrating to watch: Rigondeaux or Lara?

I cannot watch Lara anymore, as much as I love boxing, it is too painful. We get it, you can box, you can counter, but you never go forward, never takes the initiative or look to dominate your opponent, always on the rope just waiting. Watching Vanes follow him around the ring last night was like watching Ward/Rodriguez painful, I cannot do it anymore :beerchug:

I gotta go with Lara, too. It's so frustrating trying to scoring his fights- I don't think I've ever scored one of his notable fights and had it close to the official cards. Sometimes I feel like I'm too hard on Lara because I realize he is good and that's is his style... so when I score him, I go out of my way to not hold half of the running against him. But it's still too much for as a judge. I would have been suspended alongside those other judges after the Williams fights. I gave that fight to Williams by 1 point. I didn't score last night round with the point deduction 10-8, I scored it 9-9 and arrived at the score of 114-113 Martirosyain. I gave Lara the Canelo fight 115-113. LAra is a challenge to fight, to watch, and to score

hey the new roided up jesse vargas aint so bad I agree, not on the roided part, don't know, but he seems to have went from reluctant to relevant.

I think that just comes down to Lara having better management and promotion.More than that. The smaller fighters are overlooked as opposed to the bigger fighters, on top of the fact that Rigo's manager was absolutely worthless and did more harm than good.

Lara reminds of Chad Dawson in that, at times, it's like his mind isn't in the fight anymore and he becomes complacent. Lara is more frustrating to watch, Rigondeaux on the other hand rarely misses out on an opportunity to counter and he understands when he's well within distance to throw.

Not frustrating, just boring. Lara is the better fighter with great names on his resume, Rigo doesn't do nothing against bums, takes no risk, only looks for counters and still gets hit and dropped. Lara fought Freddy Hernandez, a fighter that he should had not gone to distance with I love to see boxing style of fighting but these two guys rather pot shot and then stay away for the rest of the round

Lots of good points I agree with on this thread. So many I won't even bother to quote. Both these guys have lost me as a fan. The frustration was just too much. If I had to choose who's more frustrating, I would say Lara. There is no comparison between the two in terms of talent and skill. Rigo is clearly better. Lara fights the way he does because that's who he is. Rigo fights the way he does because he chooses to. With Lara it's the same thing over and over. With Rigo, you get long stretches of staring at an opponent, but you also get those surges of brilliance that make you go "wow."

It's Lara. He's painful to watch. I feel like he's still running from Canelo. That goofy gap tooth smile doesn't help. He looks like he needs a helmet to come with his gloves.

Doesn't matter who. They're both boring to watch. Man, even their opponents get bored chasing them... I saw it again last night, Vanes motioning Lara to come and fight and stop running. They should never headline fights and just be relegated to the undercards. It's clear they don't give a f*k about the paying audience. I don't subscribe to the idea that theirs is a special case and deserve careful match-making like giving them come forward fighters as if there's a factory for those kinds of fighters. Boxing is not charity. How about Lara vs one of the Charlo twins next?

Lara is way more frustrating... Watch the Rigo v Amagasa fight( if you can find it I heard it was banned because of the brutality of it) Rigo has a mean streak, Lara does not. Rigo fights like its a privilege for his opponents to share the ring with him and if they try to win ( i.e. Amagasa knocking him down) he feels insulted( i.e. Breaking Amagasas face in 3 places). Lara the other hand and I want too know if I'm alone on this... Fights like he's scared.... Like he's intimidated by his opponent and is trying to do the bare minimum too keep them off. I didn't think this originally until I saw the Ishe Smith fight and Smith walks over to Lara and starts trashing him and Lara this elite fighter, puts his ****ing head down and submits too Ishe. I was like WTF.

Lara. Rigondeaux has shown he can actually turn up the pressure and take opponents out. Plus he also goes to the body. Lara is content staying on the outside throwing an jab followed by a straight left the entire fight even against woefully overmatched opponents. That Delvin Rodriguez fight should have been ended in the 3rd round instead he carried him 12 rounds. That's why he'll never get a big fight for the remainder of his career.

Who do you think is the more frustrating fighter to watch, given their athletic gifts and technical abilities but their inability to be more aggressive and let their hands go? Both guys have have the same 'just do enough to win' mentality, which is really not helping them get more fans or earning the big money shots. I say Rigondeaux is more frustrating since he looks the more impressive of the 2. The real shame is that when he's on point he's a brilliant to watch but chooses to fight safety first. Lara's style in general is just a major eye sore that just isn't pretty to watch, although I do respect his skills. Do they really teach this kind of style in Cuban boxing school? They need to take notes from watching Jose Napoles In Cuba you can not be a professional athlete so rather you have 1 fan or 1,000,000 it doesnt matter theres no payday so from a cuban boxer perspective why go slug it out risk getting injured and have to work in a cogar factory when you can win off points and not get injured. Its a real learning curve especial when you have fighters who literally grew up in the cuban amatuer system from age 6.

I think it's Lara. Rigo has guys like Agbeko scared to fight back. While Lara actually had Vanes chasing him with his hands down, throwing wild shots and still didn't counter and throw at him like he could have. And it's not like Lara doesn't have the weapons. The times he did open up, you'd see him land flush, clean and it would make Vanes take a couple steps back. I simply don't get it. I guess it's too late to change his ways, but Lara should be having his way with a guy like Vanes offensively

they are both tough to watch for me. snoozefests

Rigo actually throws punches and the occasional combo I'm trying to figure out who I hate watching more; Lara or Jesse Vargas hey the new roided up jesse vargas aint so bad

They both were seen on ESPN the first time. One went on to beat a top PFP fighter and almost no more TV slots. The other fought more top names and is always on major networks. Perhaps its the size.....Rigo is smaller and those divisions can be overlooked at times. But more fighters have the balls to fight Lara than Rigo and that is part of it. Even thought hat is not the topic here, it is an observation. If both were more engaging personalities and more engaging in the ring, they might both be more successful as a sell....especially Rigo. I enjoy watching Rigo more than Lara. I think that just comes down to Lara having better management and promotion.

Definitely Lara. Rigo has the skill to keep his fights from being close despite his frustrating style, so it makes sense why he fights the way he does. Lara is always in close fights with fighters he is much better than, yet he does nothing to change his style and prevent that. It is incredibly frustrating to see such a talented and skilled fighter muck through close wins against guys he should be humiliating.

They both were seen on ESPN the first time. One went on to beat a top PFP fighter and almost no more TV slots. The other fought more top names and is always on major networks. Perhaps its the size.....Rigo is smaller and those divisions can be overlooked at times. But more fighters have the balls to fight Lara than Rigo and that is part of it. Even thought hat is not the topic here, it is an observation. If both were more engaging personalities and more engaging in the ring, they might both be more successful as a sell....especially Rigo. I enjoy watching Rigo more than Lara.

Lara is insufferable to watch. That dude is so boring it's not even funny anymore. When pressed, Rigo can go toe to toe like in the Donaire fight when he won virtually every exchange. He's safety first of course, but make no mistake, the guy isn't exactly a fighter you'd like to piss off. Lara simply runs. Spare me this 'that's his footwork doe' sh*t. He runs away from a fight, it's that simple. F*ck that guy.

Agree with this. Rigo is a vastly superior boxer. Rigo also fights above his natural weight, whereas Lara looks like he might struggle if he didn't have the reach advantage he has at 154.I agree with everything you said but Lara only weighed 160.5 on fight night compared to Vanes weighing 170 on fight night so apparently Lara is not a big 154 pounder.