Lara is the biggest name out there who wants Golovkin. Make the fight happen, but it doesn't seem like they want the fight because Abel Sanchez said Monroe is a bigger name than Lara, but lets look at the facts. Lara has fought Trout, Canelo, and Paul Williams and arguably beat them all. Lara and Golovkin have both been on PPV once, Golovkin sold 97,000 and Lara sold 300,000
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MEIzxPWuYOk
That is completely untrue. you often post that fans criticism of GGG is rooted in race. That or you will cosign or agree with a poster that says same. When you do either of the above, you then mention the "agenda" the poster has. It's not exactly a hard thing to connect.
If you say that wasn't the "agenda" you were referring to in your post so be it but it rings hollow given nothing negative was mentioned about GGG or HBO.
You say I did that in this thread, so show me the comments you were referring to.
Yes, you are mistaken. I have never posting anything about black fans in general having an agenda. I don't group people together by race in that way.
The only time I ever talk about race here is when other people bring it into the conversation out of nowhere, like you did in this thread.
I never said anything about race either
That is completely untrue. you often post that fans criticism of GGG is rooted in race. That or you will cosign or agree with a poster that says same. When you do either of the above, you then mention the "agenda" the poster has. It's not exactly a hard thing to connect.
If you say that wasn't the "agenda" you were referring to in your post so be it but it rings hollow given nothing negative was mentioned about GGG or HBO.
Id like to see this fight, just to see how GGG handles Lara, he might be to robotic for GGG,
I favor GGG in a decision, early rds to Lara 5th up GGG
Hopefully this match gets made, most top fighters are ducking GGG, seems like Lara is not afraid
what agenda were you referencing? Am I wrong to suggest you were using agenda to mean what you often have posted is the agenda of black fans in general and me specifically-all criticism of GGG is because he is white. Or am I mistaken?
Yes, you are mistaken. I have never posting anything about black fans in general having an agenda. I don't group people together by race in that way.
The only time I ever talk about race here is when other people bring it into the conversation out of nowhere, like you did in this thread.
You never said anti HBO or anti GGG regarding agenda and I find it hard to believe that is what you were referring to. Why not just say it?
I never said anything about race either
Go for it, if theres no better names available for Golovkin
I just don't see Lara being his best win at middleweight. It might be the biggest 'name' for us, as 'hardcore' fans, but Lara's impact at middleweight is minimal. He's a decent 154lber dragged up, when I want a decent 160lber instead.
But yeah, if Jacobs, Saunders, Lee, Canelo, N'jikam, Quillin (I know, lol), Eubank or Khurtsidze(?) can't be made, go for Lara. No Monroes of the world
I can't figure out if you are trying to influence stupid, blinkered fans with **** like this, or if you yourself are stupid and blinkered.
Please explain, how is me saying that you have an agenda connected with race?
I guess if you are a dyed in the wool racist yourself, then you would interpret it that way.
I just stated that you obviously have an anti HBO, anti GGG agenda. Only you know the reason why.
what agenda were you referencing? Am I wrong to suggest you were using agenda to mean what you often have posted is the agenda of black fans in general and me specifically-all criticism of GGG is because he is white. Or am I mistaken?
You never said anti HBO or anti GGG regarding agenda and I find it hard to believe that is what you were referring to. Why not just say it?
Of course throughout the debate in this thread I didn't say anything negative about GGG. I also never made any point about HBO regarding the $3 mil offer to BJS, just K2. SO it seems virtually impossible that is the agenda you were referencing.
You were the one who brought up race when you claimed I had an agenda. Of course you did it like that so you could feign ignorance when called on it. typical GGG shitbag fan move.
I can't figure out if you are trying to influence stupid, blinkered fans with **** like this, or if you yourself are stupid and blinkered.
Please explain, how is me saying that you have an agenda connected with race?
I guess if you are a dyed in the wool racist yourself, then you would interpret it that way.
I just stated that you obviously have an anti HBO, anti GGG agenda. Only you know the reason why.
i don't get it. 90% of the posters feel that GGG will KO Lara, yet most are pushing for this fight.
i get the intrigue of seeing how GGG would do vs. a good fighter but even you guys don't have any confidence the fight will even go the distance.
And out of nowhere, pertaining to nothing I wrote, here comes the race card.
Well what a surprise.
You were the one who brought up race when you claimed I had an agenda. Of course you did it like that so you could feign ignorance when called on it. typical GGG shitbag fan move.
As usual instead of discussing what is posted you deflect to something you've made up in your head. I never posted anything negative about who GGG wanted to fight or anything negative about him throughout this discussion thread.
Lara is a more respected boxer fighter than BJS. That doesn't mean BJS is a bum nor did I say anything negative about him either. Lara is the recognized best at his weight, BJS is barely a top 5 guy in a division many think is weak outside of GGG. Many thought Lara actually beat Canelo and Paul williams,.
As for One Punch, your paranoia is utterly ridiculous.
I didn't justify his $3 mil asking price, I said , in response to Dr. Rumack, that asking for $3 mil doesn't mean he isn't serious since its the same amount K2 offered BJS. To suggest that this is a precursor to something we do not know will happen is desperation at its worst.
You two are the worst kind of fags when it comes to GGG. You make up what people say and/or attach it to a racial "agenda" as an attempt to negate the criticism. Its as if you only like GGG because he isn't black or hispanic.
If you are not doing the above, you are giving GGG a pass for doing things both of you have criticized when other fighters do it.
Sorry guys but until he beats someone of substance, boxing fans of all races, colors and nationalities will criticize his resume, as we have done for every other fighter with a resume built on subpar competition.
And out of nowhere, pertaining to nothing I wrote, here comes the race card.
Well what a surprise.
90% lol.... Khan probably had more people vote for him vs Canelo and that was the mismatch of the year so far as big name fighters go.
Of the remaining 5 votes, one I don't recognize and 4 are known lowly trolls.
You're still hanging your hat on the "illegal IV" story that even Hauser has had to walk away from? lol, okay then.
Floyd's said that he was dehydrated (pissing orange), and there's been no actual evidence brought forward to refute that point.
Golovkin having fought at 160lbs for the pass 15 years without wavering a pound (after putting his body through 350 amateur fights) is far more suspect than Floyd going from an explosive, dynamic power-punching 130lber at 19, to being a pinpoint, meticulous, veteran welterweight who made every punch count and wasted nothing.
The IV and all the other hidden things that didn't get told to the agencies is enough proof alone.
Floyd has ruined his legacy but I guess it was only obvious you can't really trust a guy who is capable of beating up his wife infront of his kids maybe it was the PED's kicking in plus Floyd said look at the size of Pacquiaos head well on that alone it's only obvious that Floyd has been blatantly using, its so obvious.
Sad that he couldn't fight clean though and even with the steroids he still manages to be one of the most unimpressive, boring boxers about that nobody really cares about small time type of guy.
i like lara. he is a good proud humble champ, but i think ggg is all wrong. i think ggg pwns lara very hard. bad fight for lara. but i like his confidence. only if quacknelo had half of lara's confidence.
^^^^^^ thus right here