If Khan was to beat Garcia and Brook by the end of Summer 2016, and hold the WBC, WBO and IBF titles, where would Khan rank according to all y'all.
The bookies have Khan as favourites in both of these rights, and according to Paulie Malignaggi, Khan easily beats Garcia and according to Brooks best mate Johnny Nelson, the Khan v Brook fight is Khan fights to lose. These prediction are all after Khan's devastating KO defeat.
Maidana was prime yes, that period when he first broke onto the scene in America he was at his hungriest, he did develop a bit in terms of skill later on, but I think that's exaggerated.
Garcia is a borderline HOFer himself, I know he isn't great in terms of skill, but he's a massive overachiever, similar to somebody like Froch. Even if you count the Herrera and Peterson fights as losses, he still has a very good resume.
Guys like Judah and Collazo look good on the resume, they're former champions and at the time Khan beat them, they were still at a respectable level. They're not his best wins, but they count towards it.
Ok we disagree there. It's Khan's best win without a doubt, but remember that's the same Maidana that lost nearly every round against Alexander. It was not the best Maidana - in my opinion.
Garcia is not a borderline hall of famer by any stretch of the imagination. i don't know where you got that from. I agree he has a good resume, nowhere near Froch's AT ALL.
no they don't look good on the resume. They are just there - The versions of the guys the fought one was prime in 2002 the other in 2005. Khan fought them in 2010 and 2014 respectively after they both suffered multiple defeats. Nothing but fillers. They are absolutely nothing to bring up when it comes to HOF discussions.
If Khan was to beat Garcia and Brook by the end of Summer 2016, and hold the WBC, WBO and IBF titles, where would Khan rank according to all y'all.
The bookies have Khan as favourites in both of these rights, and according to Paulie Malignaggi, Khan easily beats Garcia and according to Brooks best mate Johnny Nelson, the Khan v Brook fight is Khan fights to lose. These prediction are all after Khan's devastating KO defeat.
1-Its already May, sept is in 4 months so wtf??
2-Vargas has the WBO
3-HOW DOES THIS THREAD MAKE ANY SENSE AT ALL?
If Khan was to beat Garcia and Brook by the end of Summer 2016, and hold the WBC, WBO and IBF titles, where would Khan rank according to all y'all.
The bookies have Khan as favourites in both of these rights, and according to Paulie Malignaggi, Khan easily beats Garcia and according to Brooks best mate Johnny Nelson, the Khan v Brook fight is Khan fights to lose. These prediction are all after Khan's devastating KO defeat.
If your Aunt had balls, She'd be your Uncle. A mere con can't beat either.
the bookies have khan as a favorite over brook? have they gone mad? is this some kind of free money give away?
Nope, just the usual Khan fan nonsense.
Brook is the bookies favourite.
The predictions of Paulie and Nelson don't mean that much. With just the smallest amount of effort you could find dozens of boxers who would say Khan loses to both Brook and Garcia. You are a huge Khan fan and only looking for opinions that have Khan winning these fights. If somebody says Khan would lose these fights you don't want to hear it and would ignore it. Arum just said on the top headlines on this site that Khan isn't a top fighter and had no business fighting a top fighter like Canelo. No one man's opinion means that much. Paulie's opinion may mean more than most since he fought both Khan and Garcia. I favor Khan slightly to beat Garcia if he fights smart and keeps the fight at long range as much as possible but he could get KOed again. I think Brook would KO Paulie much faster than Khan did and I think Brook would KO Khan.
If Khan did that I think he would make the hall of fame. The hall of fame is easier to get into than many fans think it is. There are fighters in the hall of fame who weren't very good.
If Khan was to beat Garcia and Brook by the end of Summer 2016, and hold the WBC, WBO and IBF titles, where would Khan rank according to all y'all.
The bookies have Khan as favourites in both of these rights, and according to Paulie Malignaggi, Khan easily beats Garcia and according to Brooks best mate Johnny Nelson, the Khan v Brook fight is Khan fights to lose. These prediction are all after Khan's devastating KO defeat.
Khan would end up being unified WBA/IBF champ and the number one guy in the division, depending on what Bradley does next.
If he did that I would rank him number 1 at 147 because no other welterweight would have two wins that good. Even the Porter vs Thurman winner would rank below him. Khan made it very clear he is absolutely positively NOT going to fight Brook. In order to beat Brook Khan has to actually fight him.
Was Maidana prime? I think it was a raw maidana. He was a lot better 3-4 years after.
Garcia and Brook yes. Good names. Not HOF worthy. Especially seeing as Garcia has already been exposed.
Kotelnik, Collazo and Judah means nothing when we discuss HOF caliber. Absolutely zilch.
Khan is far far away from ever being discussed in HOF terms. He's lost to every step up he's had and most of the times been brutally knocked out. He's then had very so-so performances against the guys just below top level like Diaz, Algieri, Peterson etc. Should maybe have lost at British level as well.
Maidana was prime yes, that period when he first broke onto the scene in America he was at his hungriest, he did develop a bit in terms of skill later on, but I think that's exaggerated.
Garcia is a borderline HOFer himself, I know he isn't great in terms of skill, but he's a massive overachiever, similar to somebody like Froch. Even if you count the Herrera and Peterson fights as losses, he still has a very good resume.
Guys like Judah and Collazo look good on the resume, they're former champions and at the time Khan beat them, they were still at a respectable level. They're not his best wins, but they count towards it.
Prime Maidana, Garcia and Brook on your resume, along with other decent wins like Judah, Collazo, Kotelnik etc is definitely HOF worthy, especially by today's standards.
Was Maidana prime? I think it was a raw maidana. He was a lot better 3-4 years after.
Garcia and Brook yes. Good names. Not HOF worthy. Especially seeing as Garcia has already been exposed.
Kotelnik, Collazo and Judah means nothing when we discuss HOF caliber. Absolutely zilch.
Khan is far far away from ever being discussed in HOF terms. He's lost to every step up he's had and most of the times been brutally knocked out. He's then had very so-so performances against the guys just below top level like Diaz, Algieri, Peterson etc. Should maybe have lost at British level as well.
Definitely not.
Prime Maidana, Garcia and Brook on your resume, along with other decent wins like Judah, Collazo, Kotelnik etc is definitely HOF worthy, especially by today's standards.
He would be the #1 ranked welterweight and a certified HOFer.
I would pick him to beat Garcia but don't think he stands much of a chance against Brook
Btw paddypower have Brook as the favourite in that fight, haven't checked any other websites
Definitely not.
It's May 2016, how could he beat Garcia and Brook before September 2016? He hasn't even recovered from almost being decapitated. He has to wait again to fight. Besides, He said he wouldn't fight Brook and Garcia, according to you and others, is fighting Floyd in Sept.
this thread makes no sense.
He would be the #1 ranked welterweight and a certified HOFer.
I would pick him to beat Garcia but don't think he stands much of a chance against Brook
Btw paddypower have Brook as the favourite in that fight, haven't checked any other websites
Im just curious how will khan get the wbo belt from beating garcia and kell. Both of those fights are hard for him he just got knocked out so i see him fighting a light puncher next