I hear a lot of names Garcia, Thurman, Spence, Brook, & Porter but no one says anything about Jessie Vargas! I heard a lot of smack talk before from East Coast cats that he was going to be outboxed by Sadaam Ali, but howd that work out? Lets be real here, styles make fights and smart money says Vargas would (not easily) but clearly beat Garcia and Brook. Reason why? Range and straight punches. Thurman & Brook present a different/contrasting styles for Vargas but experience wise Vargas has them both.
Thoughts?
vargas has a lot of dog in him-i'd put money on him vs brook.
True, I cant see Brook fighting like Bradley. Bradleys a lil animal against anyone not named Pac but Vargas never quit. I wasn never really a fan until that fight...
Have you seen his power? Vargas can KO Brook, he himself said he would KO him. I want Vargas to get another belt and become a top WW.
Mayweather said he is the next JCC.
Itd be cool to see Vargas unified when all the other "big names" play the $ game and not want to fight each other.
Jessie Vargas has probably improved since then but still these three wins are controversial.
I think a lot has to do with his change of style, he was with that Cuban trainer that had him fighting off his back foot which goes totally against Vargas strengths. I wasn't really a fan of Vargas until the Tim Bradley fight and not because of the 12th either, I think he gave a good showing in a loss, Tims overwhelming but he never lost hope ie. Bam Bam Rios... Its good that he got that training from the Cubans though just in case he has to fall back on it 1 day but he is better served coming forward behind a jab and sneaking in that right within his range.
Have you seen his power? Vargas can KO Brook, he himself said he would KO him. I want Vargas to get another belt and become a top WW.
Mayweather said he is the next JCC.
Jessie Vargas been taking 0's : Wale Omotoso, Khabib Allakhverdiev, Anton Novikov
Jessie Vargas has probably improved since then but still these three wins are controversial.
Vargas has earned my respect, not that he didnt have it, but even more, i kno ive diss him before even when i rooted for him, just how he has talked, but im lookin forward to him gettin another shot
Jessie Vargas been taking 0's : Wale Omotoso, Khabib Allakhverdiev, Anton Novikov, and I called it when he beat Sadam Ali -- and Brook can be next to take his first L...Vargas eliminators to glory have been by far more of a challenge than Kell Brocks mandatory.
Lets hope him and Arum can work this out, I will definitely take a short trip to Vegas to see this, bunch of drunk Brits and Mexicans (real fans, not Canelo and Khan fans) should be a great atmosphere! :boxing:
Brook
Thurman
Bradley
Spence
Porter
Sammy
Khan
Garcia
Ponomarev
Vargas
My top 10 would look something like that, Spence and Sammy very high based on skill rather than resume, but they will proof their worth for sure. I think Spence is probably the best fighter at 147.
Vargas isnt Shawn Porter. He has better range and wont let Brook hold him. Brooks best win is Shawn porter and was like years ago. Since he beat JoJo dan. Momentum is behind Vargas but I dont expect shook brook to take that fight anyway.
Porter is much better than Vargas.
Vargas isn't better than Brook at range, so the only way he could beat Brook is by outworking him in the pocket and if Brook can tie up an ox like Porter, he can tie up Vargas. I honestly don't think Vargas will win a round in this one.
I'm pretty sure the fight will happen anyway so we can do a bet :boxing: