How Many Canelo Wins Have Been Gifts/Robberies?

Josecito Lopez beat his ass too

Larry Mosley and the first Vazquez fight were robberies.

Every single fight.

Lara (many, if not most, people thought Lara won) Trout (some had it a draw, some for Canelo, some Trout) Cotto (TV Azteca and Chavez Sr had Cotto winning easily - TV Azteca scored it 117-111 to Cotto) Any others? Which means, should Canelo really have 4 losses, including the Mayweather fight which he admittedly fought when he was green, weight-drained at a punitive, debilitating, performance-corroding catchweight? How many of Canelo's fights do you think should really be losses? I saw a couple of his early fights on a Mexican station where he clearly got outboxed and loss and they gave him the win. I forgot the no hopper he fought but I remember the crowd booing him bad.

Its not so much the fact that any of those three fights were robberies. It's the bias and just straight up ridiculous scores Canelo gets in favor of him. Against Cotto, the judges had it 119-109, 118-110, and 117-111. Cotto won minimum 4 rounds and a maximum of 6, if your calling things objectively. I had it 7-5 Canelo. But a card that reads 10-2 and 11-1 is just ridiculous. Against Lara, there was a card that was 9-3 in favor of Canelo. Now i'll be the first to say I HATE Lara's style. But this was a 50/50 match all the way through. I actually had Lara winning 7-5, but I'm ok with a draw or Canelo 7-5. But 9-3? GTFOH Against Trout he had a card that read 10-2 and one that read 8-4. And to make matters worse, the cards were read after 8 rounds. And after 8 rounds one judge had it 8-0 and the other 6-2 with of course the knockdown. You know Trout is hearing this and that has to throw off your mental game some. Even against Mayweather, he was completely outclassed yet he got a draw on one score card and one judge actually gave him 4 rounds. He won to me one round at best, and even that is pushing it. It goes to show anyone that if your fighting Canelo, you better win every round 10-8 style or knock him out. Because if you don't, you won't get the benefit of the doubt.

I have problems with the Nelo judge. Not the outcome of the fights: 119-109 vs. Cotto 117-111 vs. Lara 114-114 vs. Mayweather 118-109 vs. Trout I mean one can be an aberration, two you start to wonder, 3 you start noticing a trend but 4 scores like this in his 4 toughest fights?

they had him with an undeserved big lead. that was the problem. it was a very close fight but they all had canelo up. trout tried to change it up and that got him out of his game plan which was working reasonably well. obv if trout had changed up his game plan and ko'd canelo we would be saying how the open scoring helped trout but it helped canelo in this fight since trout has no power and he got sloppier goign for it. canelo won most of the first 7 rounds easy then coasted after the knock down. I scored it 7 rounds to 5 115-112

This right here! Remember the Trout fight was open scoring had Canelo built a big lead and could afford to take the late rounds off. We know this affected the way he fought and Trout since they both knew the scores. Cotto wasn't that close. Remember people like Chavez Sr and Marquez dislike Canelo and will discredit him whenever given the chance. Lara was the closest fight but many people had Canelo winning. I believe Showtime scored it a draw. Many people didn't give Canelo credit for the hellacious body shots he landed and focused on his lack of success hitting Lara to the head. This ain't the amateurs, body shots count. That seems to be lost in some pro fights nowadays by the judges. It appeared the judges didn't count Porky Medina's body work and Badou Jack's as well in their most recent fights. Especially Medina's they had him with an undeserved big lead. that was the problem. it was a very close fight but they all had canelo up. trout tried to change it up and that got him out of his game plan which was working reasonably well. obv if trout had changed up his game plan and ko'd canelo we would be saying how the open scoring helped trout but it helped canelo in this fight since trout has no power and he got sloppier goign for it.

None. Both sides fought hard! Close fights can go either way. That's what happens when you fight the best. This right here! Remember the Trout fight was open scoring had Canelo built a big lead and could afford to take the late rounds off. We know this affected the way he fought and Trout since they both knew the scores. Cotto wasn't that close. Remember people like Chavez Sr and Marquez dislike Canelo and will discredit him whenever given the chance. Lara was the closest fight but many people had Canelo winning. I believe Showtime scored it a draw. Many people didn't give Canelo credit for the hellacious body shots he landed and focused on his lack of success hitting Lara to the head. This ain't the amateurs, body shots count. That seems to be lost in some pro fights nowadays by the judges. It appeared the judges didn't count Porky Medina's body work and Badou Jack's as well in their most recent fights. Especially Medina's

Lara (many, if not most, people thought Lara won) Trout (some had it a draw, some for Canelo, some Trout) Cotto (TV Azteca and Chavez Sr had Cotto winning easily - TV Azteca scored it 117-111 to Cotto) Any others? Which means, should Canelo really have 4 losses, including the Mayweather fight which he admittedly fought when he was green, weight-drained at a punitive, debilitating, performance-corroding catchweight? How many of Canelo's fights do you think should really be losses? Stop your crying Lara lost only 2 fighters in history can win fights by running thats Ali and Floyd the rest will not get a decision

None. Just one fight close enough to have gone either way.

He's won them all. Only loss is Floyd.

114x114 vs Lara 115x112 vs Trout 115x113 vs Cotto

He got gifts against Lara and Trout.

None. Both sides fought hard! Close fights can go either way. That's what happens when you fight the best. No the problem is Canelo just isn't that good, when Hagler fought the best he was laying fools out left right and center.

There have been a good few nip and tuck fights If he wasn't say who he was as famous and profitable as he was he likely would have lost against Lara, Trout and the Cotto fight I dunno I thought he done enough but it wasn't impressive.

The Lara fight was a draw, Mayweather was obviously a clear loss, that 114:114 card was pure trash. Trout was a very close win because of the knockdown. Cotto was a clear win since Cotto is way smaller and ooold.

So wait, now the Trout fight was close enough to be considered a robbery? In no way did Canelo get a gift against Lara.

No robberies. The decision could have easily gone the other way in the Trout and Lara fights. The Cotto fight was no where near as wide in his favour as the judges had it. So I don't think he's had any gifts but he's the fighter most likely to get them.

There are no robberies. There's one 50/50 with Lara, that's it. He clearly beat Trout and Cotto and ringside media had him winning both (30% scored for Trout, less than that scored for Cotto) - so stop with the 'most believe' nonsense, they didn't.