He looked pretty good KOing Manny at the very same weight , Bradley was a win but nothing like the whitewash Floyd gave him and Bradley is 140 pounder , what does saying WW really mean when talking about who is the better fighter , does the division name or the actual weight mean more to you ?
What has JMM Mannys and Floyds weight been from 130 to 147 , what is the real difference in fight night weights between the 3 across all those divisions ?
Yea, totally the same JMM....and Floyd didn't make the contracted weight LMFO
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Floyd is a better! But both guys didn't really knock anyone out in like 5 years.
These guys that wish Floyd would have fought PAC when PAC had Ariza shakes. Would find other excuses if Floyd beat Manny 6 years ago.
The fight is over. PAC & Roach said they would not make any excuses in one interview, they worried Floyd would make excuses. After PAC lost, he made excuses.
This thread gave Spoon a Segway to repost all his various threads and go crazy.
Castillo 1 came closest to beating him
Maidana 1 next
Mosley had him hurt, almost down.
A few other guys did better than PAC.
But I think PAC did better that DLH.
I suppose Floyd is the better fighter but I think it would have clear if the fight took place much sooner, before their respective reigns at welterweight. On the otherhand, Pac is without a doubt the greater fighter in terms of accomplishments. What he has done shouldn't have and never will be done again. I mean can you imagine Floyd beating those charlo twins, J Rock, Lara, Andrare and moving up to face golovkin, Quillen, Lumiex, Jacobs. And then going even further to face a prime ward, froch, badou jack, gilberto ramirez. I realize the timeline doesn't quite match up but essentially this is the mountain pac had to climb.
That's exactly what Pac did. Amazing guy.
He looked pretty good KOing Manny at the very same weight , Bradley was a win but nothing like the whitewash Floyd gave him and Bradley is 140 pounder , what does saying WW really mean when talking about who is the better fighter , does the division name or the actual weight mean more to you ?
What has JMM Mannys and Floyds weight been from 130 to 147 , what is the real difference in fight night weights between the 3 across all those divisions ?
I don't know the last time I've seen Mayweather allow a fight night weight. JMM and Manny are much smaller. Mayweather is a good sized legit WW and average SWW. Mayweather said it himself, he beat a great little man. I'm done, if you hold that JMM fight in high regard that's your opinion.
I suppose Floyd is the better fighter but I think it would have clear if the fight took place much sooner, before their respective reigns at welterweight. On the otherhand, Pac is without a doubt the greater fighter in terms of accomplishments. What he has done shouldn't have and never will be done again. I mean can you imagine Floyd beating those charlo twins, J Rock, Lara, Andrare and moving up to face golovkin, Quillen, Lumiex, Jacobs. And then going even further to face a prime ward, froch, badou jack, gilberto ramirez. I realize the timeline doesn't quite match up but essentially this is the mountain pac had to climb.
Bradley made him look pretty bad. The fact is Marquez is absolute trash at welterweight. How many fights has he even had there?
He looked pretty good KOing Manny at the very same weight , Bradley was a win but nothing like the whitewash Floyd gave him and Bradley is 140 pounder , what does saying WW really mean when talking about who is the better fighter , does the division name or the actual weight mean more to you ?
What has JMM Mannys and Floyds weight been from 130 to 147 , what is the real difference in fight night weights between the 3 across all those divisions ?
I dont think you understand what youre looking at from a fact based logical perspective , like I said name another fighter that could that too JMM and show me where JMM ever wanted to have another try , I understand why you dont want to get into the details concerning CWs because when you do Manny comes up so far behind Floyd its not funny .
And isnt it strange that JMM himself said Floyd is the better fighter , matter of fact everybody that fought both said the same thing isnt that a coincidence .
As for Mannys accomplishments how do you not pay any attention to CWs and drained fighters , fck me its the very point of CWS that breaks Mannys back .
Bradley made him look pretty bad. The fact is Marquez is absolute trash at welterweight. How many fights has he even had there?
Lol, JMM was a fat, lethargic turd in that fight. He wasn't even acclimated to that weight. Granted he never would beat Floyd. I won't bring up the CW and other contract crap. That fight was not a shining example of Floyd's dominance to me.
I dont think you understand what youre looking at from a fact based logical perspective , like I said name another fighter that could that too JMM and show me where JMM ever wanted to have another try , I understand why you dont want to get into the details concerning CWs because when you do Manny comes up so far behind Floyd its not funny .
And isnt it strange that JMM himself said Floyd is the better fighter , matter of fact everybody that fought both said the same thing isnt that a coincidence .
As for Mannys accomplishments how do you not pay any attention to CWs and drained fighters , fck me its the very point of CWS that breaks Mannys back .
I'm checking out of this bullsh#t thread. I love both fighters and won't get caught up with these fanboys trying to diminish either one of them.
So I'll clarify myself real quick before I go. I think Floyd is the better fighter, but I respect Manny's accomplishment's more. Take that sh#t how you want it.
Lol, JMM was a fat, lethargic turd in that fight. He wasn't even acclimated to that weight. Granted he never would beat Floyd. I won't bring up the CW and other contract crap. That fight was not a shining example of Floyd's dominance to me.
Fl0mos like reloaded easily get's impressed by those obvious mismatches. He can't tell what's a legit win and what's not. To them all wins are the same lmao
Sad bunch of brainwashed minions hehe
JMM weighed the same on the night in both fights , Floyd was out for 18mths and weighed in at 146 beating both Manny and JMM , name another boxer within 2 pounds that can school JMM like he was an amateur that didnt belong in the ring with Floyd ?
Back up your statements with some logical facts its all to easy to say you dont give credit , fanboys just make wild comments and cant back them up are you a knowledgeable boxing fan or a Manny fanboy .
Lol, JMM was a fat, lethargic turd in that fight. He wasn't even acclimated to that weight. Granted he never would beat Floyd. I won't bring up the CW and other contract crap. That fight was not a shining example of Floyd's dominance to me.
I don't give Floyd much credit for that JMM fight. Definitely doesn't help him in the P4P argument considering he was the bigger man and that was the heaviest JMM fought at the time.
JMM weighed the same on the night in both fights , Floyd was out for 18mths and weighed in at 146 beating both Manny and JMM , name another boxer within 2 pounds that can school JMM like he was an amateur that didnt belong in the ring with Floyd ?
Back up your statements with some logical facts its all to easy to say you dont give credit , fanboys just make wild comments and cant back them up are you a knowledgeable boxing fan or a Manny fanboy .
Max kellerman's argument.
If Floyd was as small as Pac would he have beat him?
If Pac was as big as Floyd in size and reach would he have beat him?
Answer:
Pac already did against the IV induced bigger man with just one healthy arm.
Now to make it equal in size, then that's a no brainer. Pac smokes this dude silly.
# truth is out
I don't give Floyd much credit for that JMM fight. Definitely doesn't help him in the P4P argument considering he was the bigger man and that was the heaviest JMM fought at the time.
This bs again? Cotto/Oscar don't have the tools to beat Manny @ 147 or 154. Converted orthodox fighters will always be at a disadvantage against Manny. Only difference 154 may have done is allowed them to last 12 rounds...maybe.
Why do you talk sht , Manny CWed them why do think he did that and then refused to fight Cotto again without the CW even though it was Manny who called Cotto out , no CW no fight its obvious he knows Cotto is a different fighter 10pound heavier , Oscar was outweighed by Manny on the night you fckn idiot .
Oscar Cotto have more power and have all the tools JMM has and he knocked him out .
If you are then you dont understand CWs and dehydrated fighters , 154 Oscar stops Manny , 154 Cotto beats Manny , 150 title was the biggest fake paper title in history .
Knocked out how many times , how many loses !
JMM did this now go watch what Floyd done to JMM and then the last nail in the coffin is Floyd beat Manny head to head .
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This bs again? Cotto/Oscar don't have the tools to beat Manny @ 147 or 154. Converted orthodox fighters will always be at a disadvantage against Manny. Only difference 154 may have done is allowed them to last 12 rounds...maybe.
Delusional retard lol .
Let's sing this song..
Sometimes I run sometimes I hide..
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Is this still boxing?
Survey says..
The boos from around the world/MGM says it isn't. It's a pop dance that won't fly lol