Would GGG have moved up to fight Ward if it meant a Mayweather type of payday?

If you're talking like a $10 million payday then yes I think he would have... The risk/reward with Ward at the time was not worth it for GGG when he was looking at a Cotto/Canelo fight looming.. Right now if Ward was at 168 and wanted to fight him and he didn't I'd say he's ducking because of the apparent reluctance of Canelo to want the fight GGG needs a big fight. He needs Jacobs or Saunders next. K2 has to find a way to get those guys the money they want just to get GGG a big fight.

Gig was the mandatory meaning the champ is going to be fighting ggg next at 160 70,30 split etc. That is already more than ggg deserve and they know it. So they can sit happy refusing to negotiate because when it goes to purse bid, they will be fighting at the traditional weight and getting more money than they deserve anyways. I say he ducked because if he was going to fight him, he should've done it now. If he wants to fight him down the line then he comes at a lower position so the split would be the same as now. He would come as not even a mandatory and no belt wanting to fight the 160 champ with 2 belts maybe even undisputed. What kind of split would be deserve then?

Why should GGG go to 155 to fight "WBC middleweight champion"? So he'll move up to catch a one sided ass whooping for his biggest payday but he won't lose weight to fight a former welterweight for an actual biggest payday and not a thread title hypothetical payday. Makes a lot of sense.

Well hes now refusing to go to 155 for a career payday so....... And there you have it.

At 168 for titles yes. At 175 nope.

The story is already know, when GGG came to HBO, they had a list of possible opponents(20guys I think) one the opponents in that list was Ward. In that moment he was hungry for names, now I think he already is a bigger Name than Ward and he is trying to get more money and to make history in MW. So to answer your question, yes he would. is about business right now. Nothing has changed

No beacuse he doesn't have the heart to be great

No beacuse he doesn't have the heart to be great

The story is already know, when GGG came to HBO, they had a list of possible opponents(20guys I think) one the opponents in that list was Ward. In that moment he was hungry for names, now I think he already is a bigger Name than Ward and he is trying to get more money and to make history in MW. So to answer your question, yes he would. is about business right now.

yeah you're dumb... ward is lightheavy he hasnt been super middle in 5 years and on fightnight he is 184-187 do your math fairweather. :killyou: what???? he fought Rodriguez in 2013...2016-2013=5 years now?

What.. move 20 pounds up then lose 30... makes no sense Stop that dumbass excuse..he would have only have to go to 168

Well hes now refusing to go to 155 for a career payday so....... Why should GGG go to 155 to fight "WBC middleweight champion"?

Well hes now refusing to go to 155 for a career payday so.......

Lil G fans blatantly ignore the fact it would have been at 168 and say Lil G would have had to move up 2 divisions. They know Lil G looked like a ***** for not wanting to fight at 168 while calling out others and they try to rewrite history. I actually had to correct somebody on this thread about the weight. They thought GGG would've had to have went up 20lbs.

Of course he would've taken the fight for big $$$. All they've asked Ward to do the past few years is get back in the ring so they could make it a money fight. They had a meeting years ago with HBO about this. Ward's inactivity is the reason this fight hasn't happened. Even if GGG had signed the lousy contract Ward offered last year, they likely still wouldn't have fought yet. The reality is, GGG would be outweighed on fight night by well over 10lbs. GGG is a natural MW and Ward was a LHW struggling to make 168 which is why 164 wasn't going to happen. Golovkin is not going to add much significant weight until he commits to moving up to SMW. Any one shot fight he takes now or would've taken in the past (Froch, Chavez Jr., Ward...) would be at a significant weight disadvantage, and as such he's only going to do it for significant $ - PPV. This is all common sense.

Lil G fans blatantly ignore the fact it would have been at 168 and say Lil G would have had to move up 2 divisions. They know Lil G looked like a ***** for not wanting to fight at 168 while calling out others and they try to rewrite history. It's not rewriting history. If the fight was signed last year like it should have been it would, or at least should have been at 168. Now, however Ward has stated that he will never go back down to 168. Unless of course Ward is lying and he would drop back down to super middle weight any fight between Ward and Golovkin would be at light heavy or a catchweight below 175 and we both know how people feel about Golovkin offering catchweights to Ward.

Of course he would have, which shows just how poorly managed he is. You can't talk risk reward one minute and then talk about someone else being a businessman.

Even if Golovkin was a welter he would've moved up to 168 lbs to fight Ward for a Floyd-esque type of money.

The reality is guys like Ward and Golovkin who have been fighting pretty much their entire lives are not scared of anyone. Apprehensive maybe and both trying to make the biggest fights with the least risk. Most boxers have tried that, except for the odd cold blooded dudes like Holyfield and Toney who you kinda believe would fight King Kong for 10 bucks and just 'for the helluva it.' However I don't think EITHER guy has ever been 'scared' to face the other and for a PBF type payday would probably get the paperwork done in an afternoon.

The question is would GGG have fought Ward at 168 for a big payday. Whatever they rehydrate to on fight night is on them. I'm sure if GGG's weight was 168 he would also gain a couple pounds. But that's irrelevant to the question. " Would GGG have moved up to fight Ward if it meant a Mayweather type of payday?" Wasn't that rhetorical? By "Mayweather type of payday" I suspect that GGG would have raised $5-10 million while Ward would have earned $15-20+ million, right? To date, it isn't the case -- and it's still a rhetorical question.