VADA, Golden Boy, CSAC and everyone involved in that mess in particular.
Why are they going to allow a fighter with steroids on his system to fight after having already been caught? I thought VADA was the most stringent random drug testing agency around? Is this not the case anymore?
As it's been said testing agency dont regulate the sport, they can just inform the governing body of the failed test, it's the commission who decides to cancel the fight.
Nothing happens for two reasons.
1. California State Athletic Commission doesn't ban clenbuterol.
2. Vada is a WADA signatory and approved the retroactive TUE.
Besides vada uses Uber drivers to pick up and deliver the samples. They aren't a real ADO.
how is the commission going to do something if the fight was done and over with in the first place?
good thing about CSAC, they know before the fight, meanwhile...
what if the testing agency informs the commission 19 days after the fight?
Nothing happens for two reasons.
1. California State Athletic Commission doesn't ban clenbuterol.
2. Vada is a WADA signatory and approved the retroactive TUE.
Besides vada uses Uber drivers to pick up and deliver the samples. They aren't a real ADO.
Testing agencies don't really have the power to stop a fight regardless of a negative test.
The only thing they are paid for is to do the testing and find anything that might be dodgy.
Yeas, VADA did their job -- they announced that the test was positive...
Isn't the "commission" the entity that sanction a fight?
yeah and people were crapping on USADA for letting the Morales and Garcia fight proceed.
Because USADA kept testing Morales without informing the comission hoping he'd turn up clean in one but nope. NYSAC condemned USADA for it just like NSAC did more recently with their whole TUE policies.
No one is complaining about VADA except promoters who were mad that VADA informs the fighter and comission instead of them.
It's not VADA's decision. It's up to the CSAC & Golden Boy. Tarver passed the New Jersey athletic commission post fight drug test but failed the private testing company drug test. New Jersey recognized the failed test and suspended him. VADA is simply hired to conduct the tests and give the results. If the CSAC & GBP allow the fight to go forward VADA shouldn't work with them anymore because it tarnishes their reputation.
This.
I think it's common sense. So why this thread? To attack VADA? some butthurt feelings regarding Floyd's choice of USADA instead of VADA? VADA has done something good, which is catching a doper. That's what VADA is paid for. So why are we trying to turn things in a different direction and acuse them when they actually did their job well, unless other anti doping agencies.....
VADA, Golden Boy, CSAC and everyone involved in that mess in particular.
Why are they going to allow a fighter with steroids on his system to fight after having already been caught? I thought VADA was the most stringent random drug testing agency around? Is this not the case anymore?
I think that's what the 'V' stands for, "voluntary". You can still fight if you feel like it.
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-MdAyph9sxwY/UIAvIdOW0ZI/AAAAAAAACZo/ZYfsm5ThwHc/s1600/VADA.jpg
Jokes aside, no damned clue. Maybe they plan to process the 'B', before the fight? That's the only rational explanation I can think of.
I believe VADA catches the dopers. Then if the athletic comission says the fight is still on or not I don't think it's in the scope of VADA.
The good news is... VADA once again caught a doper. Something that USADA... well.. you know.
I understand that VADA is only a 3rd party drug testing agency, however it would look really bad if they don't convince the CSAC to stop the fight. They at the very least have that power.
It's not VADA's decision. It's up to the CSAC & Golden Boy. Tarver passed the New Jersey athletic commission post fight drug test but failed the private testing company drug test. New Jersey recognized the failed test and suspended him. VADA is simply hired to conduct the tests and give the results. If the CSAC & GBP allow the fight to go forward VADA shouldn't work with them anymore because it tarnishes their reputation.
VADA doesn't really conduct the tests, they just plan it. They pick the random dates where fighters are tested, give the information (which fighter it is, where and when they can find him, additional contact information) to a company who will get the samples, get the paperwork to be able to match the anonymized results with the fighter and report the results to the camp, promoter and commission.
In Vargas' case it will be evaluated whether the clenbuterol might be from mexican meat. Depending on amount found in his sample the commission might let him fight. If I would be Vargas, I would move to the US asap to not risk another positive test if this is not PED case.
As it has been said already, this is up to The California State Athletic Commission and Golden Boy.
VADA's job is done. They don't have the authority to prevent this fight from happening. Anti-Doping agencies conduct drug testing and the governing body for each sport enforces disciplinary rules if necessary.
Testing agencies don't really have the power to stop a fight regardless of a negative test.
The only thing they are paid for is to do the testing and find anything that might be dodgy.
Don't you just love helping the kids that lack commonsense.
Testing agencies don't really have the power to stop a fight regardless of a negative test.
The only thing they are paid for is to do the testing and find anything that might be dodgy.
I think that's what the 'V' stands for, "voluntary". You can still fight if you feel like it.
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-MdAyph9sxwY/UIAvIdOW0ZI/AAAAAAAACZo/ZYfsm5ThwHc/s1600/VADA.jpg
Jokes aside, no damned clue. Maybe they plan to process the 'B', before the fight? That's the only rational explanation I can think of.
:lol1:
But seriously it's gross negligence if they let him fight with steroids in his system, which he claims is from "tainted meat" consumed in Mexico. From the articles that came out today it almost sounded as though they're going to continue on with the fight even if the B sample is positive too.
I think that's what the 'V' stands for, "voluntary". You can still fight if you feel like it.
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-MdAyph9sxwY/UIAvIdOW0ZI/AAAAAAAACZo/ZYfsm5ThwHc/s1600/VADA.jpg
Jokes aside, no damned clue. Maybe they plan to process the 'B', before the fight? That's the only rational explanation I can think of.
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