Kellerman says that with each Canelo win the better Floyd looks in boxing history

Just like Manny's win over Cotto. They both woulda probably win without the CW by the way... Yup just like Manny and obviously so. Catchweights put an unnecessary asterisk next to fights that would have meant so much more otherwise.

how could anyone be impress with that performance against pac? of course the canelo win is better. floyd fought a more impressive fight against canelo where as with pac floyd was just too cautious. I dont know i always jsut found it more impressive, he fought the younger bigger guy and schooled him.

How easy it is to forget that it was actually golden boy who offered Floyd a catchweight, and not even the 152 that Floyd counter offered, but actually a 150 catchweight, same catchweight which Canelo won his jnr middleweight title at. How easy it is to forget that Canelo weighed in at 153 in the fight before Floyd, and therfore only had to lose one extra pound. How easy it is to forget he was 165 on fight night as opposed to Floyd's 150. How easy it is to forget that at 150.5 in the one day weigh in, and 150 on fight night, Floyd couldn't even make the 152 catchweight. How easy it is indeed. Great post. Very accurate too.

I wish Floyd had just faced Canelo at 154, instead the win has an asterisk next to it, in what would otherwise look like one of his career defining wins Just like Manny's win over Cotto. They both woulda probably win without the CW by the way...

Just stop while your ahead, your argument is weak What is weak here Mr Smart? 152 was a joke of a CW, that's a fact Nelo is more efficient at 155, that's another straight fact. If it wasn't the case, he wouldn't have fought Lara, Angulo at 155.

I dis agree. Canelo was a very green fighter at the time. He was popular but he wasnt anything more than a C plus fighter. He is a B fighter today. He he was fighting lopez and gomez at 154 while they were 140 pound fighters. Trout was a controversial win in texas. And trout isnt all that Floyd beat this popular overated kid At a catchweight. It imo is one of the most overated victories in boxing history. Floyd has to Beg, borrow and steal credit. Floyd fans didn't have a lot to cheer about until recently. Not along ago fkloyd fans would boast about Floyd's win over gatti, that's all they had almost. But now they think on paper nelo is a great win, as is PAC. But PAC is smaller and not far removed from ko to jmm

I dis agree. Canelo was a very green fighter at the time. He was popular but he wasnt anything more than a C plus fighter. He is a B fighter today. He he was fighting lopez and gomez at 154 while they were 140 pound fighters. Trout was a controversial win in texas. And trout isnt all that Floyd beat this popular overated kid At a catchweight. It imo is one of the most overated victories in boxing history.

If Canelo beats GGG, it will be like Floyd beat GGG. Triangles FTW.

Possibly, but its purely hypothetical. I agree with you, but I wish could say it as a matter of fact, which is why its kinda annoying. He'd have gotten far more credit for it had he just fought at 154 Does he get credit for Oscar and Cotto at 154? Not really you all make excuses for them to

I mean 155 is a CW just like 152 you're right. But, 155 seems to be Nelo best weight unlike 152... Just stop while your ahead, your argument is weak

I agree. This explains why so many Floyd fans want to ride Canelo's dick so hard all of a sudden and are actually defending Canelo's 155 catchweights. Basically anyone Canelo beats from this point on, Floyd beats as well, including GGG if Canelo wins against him. True, Floyd fans are wquite sinister. All the usual suspects here, larryx, zaroku, reloaded etc etc.

It's more probable than not thst he would have beaten canelo at 154 Possibly, but its purely hypothetical. I agree with you, but I wish could say it as a matter of fact, which is why its kinda annoying. He'd have gotten far more credit for it had he just fought at 154

I wish Floyd had just faced Canelo at 154, instead the win has an asterisk next to it, in what would otherwise look like one of his career defining wins It's more probable than not thst he would have beaten canelo at 154

I wish Floyd had just faced Canelo at 154, instead the win has an asterisk next to it, in what would otherwise look like one of his career defining wins

lol...what???? I mean 155 is a CW just like 152 you're right. But, 155 seems to be Nelo best weight unlike 152...

That's Caneloweight Larry... that catchweight is advantaging Nelo unlike 152 which is disadvantaging Nelo. lol...what????

I agree. This explains why so many Floyd fans want to ride Canelo's dick so hard all of a sudden and are actually defending Canelo's 155 catchweights. Basically anyone Canelo beats from this point on, Floyd beats as well, including GGG if Canelo wins against him.

ha ha ha.... oh, max! you really are a genius for summoning the wind to raise clouds of dust..

Forget what trolls or Floyd haters said. Experts said it might be too soon for nelo. Everyone warned Floyd he better fight at 154 or he will be criticised but Floyd didn't care as usual, keeping zero at all costs is what mattered. Plus most people didn't have nelo top ten PFP anyway Can this thread just dissapear now. We've established nelo winning doesn't make fklod better. But what makes Floyd look worse historically is Jim flattening pac that much is true Personally, I don't see the correlation. I know what kellerman is saying, but I don't agree.

People who were saying Canelo was too green for Floyd after he lost were the same people saying he was too young and strong before the fight...the same people who said he looked great against Angulo 6 months later...the same people who said that Canelo has trouble against movers when he fought Lara 3 months later...the same people who said he looked like a monster against Kirkland....see what I'm getting at? Forget what trolls or Floyd haters said. Experts said it might be too soon for nelo. Everyone warned Floyd he better fight at 154 or he will be criticised but Floyd didn't care as usual, keeping zero at all costs is what mattered. Plus most people didn't have nelo top ten PFP anyway Can this thread just dissapear now. We've established nelo winning doesn't make fklod better. But what makes Floyd look worse historically is Jim flattening pac that much is true