I wish more fighters tried to become undisputed champion in their divisions like GGG

Rigo, Loma, and GGG are the only guys you see on interviews talking about being undisputed champion, You don't see Chocolatico, Brook, Canelo, Vargas, Garcia, Stevenson, Lara , Crawford, etc, etc event talking about unification

I just want more fighters to fight the best, not collect alphabet titles. We all know the top 10 ranking of alphabet titles are trash, so some times trash fighters get the titles, and then trash fighters are mandos for the title. If the best fight in the division just happens to be between to titleholders then fine. Best fight at LHW is Ward vs Kovalev, not Kovalev vs the only other title holder Stevenson..but yeah then the winner can fight Stevenson if that fight can being made. Well said. This thread sounds like an excuse for GGG fighting sub-par competition.

I just want more fighters to fight the best, not collect alphabet titles. We all know the top 10 ranking of alphabet titles are trash, so some times trash fighters get the titles, and then trash fighters are mandos for the title. If the best fight in the division just happens to be between to titleholders then fine. Best fight at LHW is Ward vs Kovalev, not Kovalev vs the only other title holder Stevenson..but yeah then the winner can fight Stevenson if that fight can being made. Note, for predictions sake, Ward beats Kovalev (stellar defense always negates stellar offense; Ward's camp did him a great service in getting him 20 good rounds for his last two fights, against solid competition), Stevenson beats Kovalev (Stevenson is going to land his bomb, and Hopkins being able to keep Kovalev off from rushing him gives me the idea that Kovalev won't handle Stevenson's power all that well), and Ward-Stevenson is a tossup fight (Ward's talent is unquestioned, but I'm not sure how he negates Stevenson's left for 36 out of 36 minutes of the fight)

I just want more fighters to fight the best, not collect alphabet titles. We all know the top 10 ranking of alphabet titles are trash, so some times trash fighters get the titles, and then trash fighters are mandos for the title. If the best fight in the division just happens to be between to titleholders then fine. Best fight at LHW is Ward vs Kovalev, not Kovalev vs the only other title holder Stevenson..but yeah then the winner can fight Stevenson if that fight can being made. Regardless of how you want to order them, Ward, Kovalev, and Stevenson are the current three best fighters at 175lbs, with Fonfara nipping on their heels at #4, and from #5 on down having a clear separation from that top level. Ward-Kovalev, Ward-Stevenson, and Stevenson-Kovalev are all barnburner fights, regardless of what folks here try to say.

Wlad was trying as well until Fury beat him, and now the IBF part has been taken away taking us back a step to get a unified champion. You've also got Kovalev trying but he just can't seem to get Stevenson to fight him. I wish more fighters wanted to have all the belts. We haven't had a true undisputed champion since 2005 which is crazy with the talent we have today. You do realize Fury probably unifies before GGG right? Hopefully they both do, and I agree that more fighters need to prioritize being the undisputed champ as opposed to being content with 1-2 belts.

What do you mean? It's not like full unifications happen every day, when was the last one? If you fully unify there's not 5 champs, there s one. That's The Man, and if you wanna get anywhere at MW, you gotta face him Even if you fully unify..the WBA will make a regular WBA champ(just like it is at heavy right now) and WBC will make a interim or regular champion...there will always be more champions

Belts don't mean anything anymore. I don't want unification fights if they aren't the best fights to be made. I want the top fighters to fight each other, not top fighters scrapping it out with mediocre fighters who happen to have a belt due to corruption.

Ok, and? Just because you don't understand what I'm saying doesn't mean I don't understand what unification means. My point is, so you can clearly understand it, the more champions in the division, the less it means to be a champion and the less it means to actually BEAT a champion in unification when in reality many of those champions aren't exactly the best or among the best in the division. It means more to me that you beat the top guys in the division or around your division, regardless of what belts they have or don't have. Well the whole reason we have 5 champions in every division is because fighting "a top guy around your division, chasing epic greatness!" is used as a copout and nobody ever unifies. I'd rather we had Golovkin vs Canelo, a middleweight unification bout, than Canelo vs random top welterweight (Khan). Likewise I don't understand the fake interest (its really not very convincing) people have in seeing Golovkin move to 168. 168 is a wasteland division and he's way too small for it. Boxing is interesting because of rivalries and lineage. When it becomes the measure of greatness to just bounce around random weight divisions collecting catchweights and hasbeens on your record people just stop caring. The guy doing it rakes in the cash and become a megacelebrity but public interest in the sport as a whole rapidly wanes.

Nah, best fight at LHW is still Stevenson vs Kovalev even if Ward ends up being better than both of them. I'm not that sold on Stevenson. I'm sold on Ward and Kovalev. Stevenson was one and done, he KO'ed Dawson. He has other decent wins like Fonfora, Bika, Cloud, Bellew but in his second biggest win after Dawson which was Fonfora he struggled pretty bad and was knocked down.

I'll never understand why people would be opposed to a unified champion. By holding all four belts, you funnel all the other top fighters into fighting you. Holding just one or two belts you're going to end up with sh*tty mandatories because the other top fighters will go after easier title fights. WBO doesn't allow for unifications... Yeah they do, they however don't recognize interim titles such as the WBA regular title. Currently Kovalev, Fury, and Estrada all are unified with the WBO.

Yes this sentence: "Unifications literally mean nothing when there are 5 or more champions in each division" Ok, and? Just because you don't understand what I'm saying doesn't mean I don't understand what unification means. My point is, so you can clearly understand it, the more champions in the division, the less it means to be a champion and the less it means to actually BEAT a champion in unification when in reality many of those champions aren't exactly the best or among the best in the division. It means more to me that you beat the top guys in the division or around your division, regardless of what belts they have or don't have.

That's nice but if we have to get crap fights and pointless mandos because of it, I'd rather you fight the best guys in and around your weight classes and move on with your career. Hopefully some of the mandos turn out to be top contenders, like Jacobs. Thats what usually happens when theres only one champ, not 4. Only the IBF is really strict anyway. He wants to fight often, so he should have time for quality voluntaries at 160 or 168, like Zurdo or Degale, maybe even Canelo when he moves up to 157

Did I say something that implied I didnt? Yes this sentence: "Unifications literally mean nothing when there are 5 or more champions in each division"

That makes no sense. Unifications literally mean nothing when there are 5 or more champions in each division, all of varying quality. Then throw in pointless mandatories and we wind up seeing cap fights like Golovkin vs. Wade. Belts matter as much as who you heat to get them and who you defend them against. If it's taking you 5 years to unify a division, then something is wrong. Sooooo....it would mean nothing to unify titles by beating four other champions in your division???

Do you know what unification means? Did I say something that implied I didnt?

What do you mean? It's not like full unifications happen every day, when was the last one? If you fully unify there's not 5 champs, there s one. That's The Man, and if you wanna get anywhere at MW, you gotta face him That's nice but if we have to get crap fights and pointless mandos because of it, I'd rather you fight the best guys in and around your weight classes and move on with your career.

That makes no sense. Unifications literally mean nothing when there are 5 or more champions in each division, all of varying quality. Then throw in pointless mandatories and we wind up seeing cap fights like Golovkin vs. Wade. Belts matter as much as who you heat to get them and who you defend them against. If it's taking you 5 years to unify a division, then something is wrong. Do you know what unification means?

That makes no sense. Unifications literally mean nothing when there are 5 or more champions in each division, all of varying quality. Then throw in pointless mandatories and we wind up seeing cap fights like Golovkin vs. Wade. Belts matter as much as who you heat to get them and who you defend them against. If it's taking you 5 years to unify a division, then something is wrong. What do you mean? It's not like full unifications happen every day, when was the last one? If you fully unify there's not 5 champs, there s one. That's The Man, and if you wanna get anywhere at MW, you gotta face him

unification fights are far more interesting to me than catchweights/collecting titles in 20 divisions without ever defending them etc That makes no sense. Unifications literally mean nothing when there are 5 or more champions in each division, all of varying quality. Then throw in pointless mandatories and we wind up seeing cap fights like Golovkin vs. Wade. Belts matter as much as who you heat to get them and who you defend them against. If it's taking you 5 years to unify a division, then something is wrong.

I just want more fighters to fight the best, not collect alphabet titles. We all know the top 10 ranking of alphabet titles are trash, so some times trash fighters get the titles, and then trash fighters are mandos for the title. If the best fight in the division just happens to be between to titleholders then fine. Best fight at LHW is Ward vs Kovalev, not Kovalev vs the only other title holder Stevenson..but yeah then the winner can fight Stevenson if that fight can being made. Nah, best fight at LHW is still Stevenson vs Kovalev even if Ward ends up being better than both of them.