Roberto Duran is literally the most overrated boxer in history

Duran is very overrated...I think Julio Cesar Chavez is more overrated though. Nobody looks at either of these guys fight and are overwhelmed by their skillset. Duran's claim to fame was weight jumping and taking on bigger foes. Chavez's is fighting nobodies in Mexico and padding his record.

Duran is an ATG. His technic at LW was excellent and he went up in weight and fought the pinnacle with mixed success. Gave Hagler a good close fight when he was in his peak and a bigger guy. The Barkley win was outstanding and a good win against Davey Moore. When Duran was motivated and in shape he was something to watch, he was lazy and sometimes unmotivated.

He couldn’t handle them 3 American boys and by todays standards he beat a green and inexperienced SRL according to those who ranked Floyd’s win over Canelo. Stopped reading after this. Gtfoh. Really need to get your head out Floyds azz

I believe he’s 1-4 against Hearns Hagler SRL.. He couldn’t handle them 3 American boys and by todays standards he beat a green and inexperienced SRL according to those who ranked Floyd’s win over Canelo. The second fight with SRL he quit. The third fight was one of the worse fights in boxing history. Got knocked out cold by Hearns in less than 5mins. When speaking of his resume his fans usually use his split decision win of Iran Barkley as one of his best wins. People tend to overrate things of the past due to nostalgia. If he were an American in this era his resume would be picked apart by critics. You’re probably right about the difference if Duran were American, though I am unsure why critics treat him differently. What is Roberto Duran’s appeal after all these years, exactly? I mean, clearly he was a great fighter (witness his work as a lightweight) but nowhere near the best of his era. After his loss to Leonard, he won two fights of consequence, and neither of the opponents were close to elite. His post-prime was far longer than his actual prime. Was it because he was uncompromisingly masculine? In what way? His cruel, sneering mockery of his opponents in victory, his sulking bitterness in defeat? His surrender in the biggest fight of his life? His gluttony and laziness, which caused him to be out of shape in some of the biggest fights of his career, effectively conceding the fights before they even began? Clearly Duran was a man who, at times, preferred to self-sabotage and lose, rather than put in the work and risk losing at his best. Frankly, I wonder if Duran’s politics, which were generally anti-American, is what makes him appeal to American journalists. These are the same people, after all, who let Muhammad Ali get away with saying the most outrageous things, because they agreed with his politics and his social outlook. Maybe that’s the reason why Duran is remembered so fondly today. I am not sure.

Fighting everyone means nothing you have to actually win the fights. Fighters aren’t ranked based on who they fought they are ranked based on who they beat. He was 1-4 against Hagler Hearns Leonard. Fighting and beating people past prime means very little also. But at least fighting ATGs in their primes who were bigger shows you didn't duck a challenge even if you lose

don't agree .. his losses mean nothing in the bigger picture guy was a beast and if he was fighting today I bet anything these modern day fighters would want nothing to do with that caveman

Fighting everyone means nothing you have to actually win the fights. Fighters aren’t ranked based on who they fought they are ranked based on who they beat. He was 1-4 against Hagler Hearns Leonard. He beat also wiped out 135, beat a prime undefeated SRL who was favored to win, Dave moore, Iran Barkley. Won titles from 135-160. He's better than Hagler.

Yes, Duran lost but if people are of the belief Duran wasnt at his best on the night for whatever reason, they wont downgrade Duran too much for a loss. I mean Henry armstrong lost 4 of his first 5 fights and how much do people downgrade Henry for it, not much i bet. Do you really think people use Pacs loss to Torrecampo to downplay Pac historically? And at the other end of the spectrum just like for an example you dont neccesarily ass kiss someone who has an unbeaten record if you think they achieved it by getting advantages, or not fighting everyone or not fighting them at their best in their prime. You take each case on its own merit. Duran is only human in losing. But having fought SRL, Hearns, Hagler, you cant say Duran didnt reach for the stars, he fought everyone? And he did so much in the lower weights but wasnt looking for advantages in the higher weight classes as far as i know. Fighting everyone means nothing you have to actually win the fights. Fighters aren’t ranked based on who they fought they are ranked based on who they beat. He was 1-4 against Hagler Hearns Leonard.

Yes, Duran lost but if people are of the belief Duran wasnt at his best on the night for whatever reason, they wont downgrade Duran too much for a loss. I mean Henry armstrong lost 4 of his first 5 fights and how much do people downgrade Henry for it, not much i bet. Do you really think people use Pacs loss to Torrecampo to downplay Pac historically? And at the other end of the spectrum just like for an example you dont neccesarily ass kiss someone who has an unbeaten record if you think they achieved it by getting advantages, or not fighting everyone or not fighting them at their best in their prime. You take each case on its own merit. Duran is only human in losing. But having fought SRL, Hearns, Hagler, you cant say Duran didnt reach for the stars, he fought everyone? And he did so much in the lower weights but wasnt looking for advantages in the higher weight classes as far as i know.

This "ATG" lost to C level fighters in Robbie Sims and Kirkland Laing :thinking: Literally beat only one good opponent in a green SRL and thats only because he decided to brawl with Duran, and Duran still almost lost He got absouletly humiliated by Thomas Hearns who was chinny and gets praised for beating a novice, C level fighter in Davey Moore and a guy whos lost like 10 times in Iran Barkley. Yet people actually call this bum an "ATG", he fought cab drivers as a lightweight and the first decent guy he fought he lost too in esteban and lets face it esteban isnt really anything special Find it hilarious when people say Duran would beat Pacquiao or Mayweather, he would literally be a stepping stone for those guys onto bigger and better things. He has absolutely NOTHING on them, Nothing. To be an ATG you actually have to win your high profile fights, not lose just about all of them. He couldnt even beat above average fighters who ATGs should be beating like Benetiz. As i said, literally the most overrated boxer in history. He beat a bunch of ok fighters but everytime he stepped up he lost. Thats the story of his fat tomato can durans career. Ok: Maybe you are young or don't know the stories because you were not living in Latin America at the time, let me tell you 2 things about two of his losses one been Leonard II and the other one the Hearns fight: 1- Everyone knew at the time not to bet against Leonard on the second fight just because Omar Torrijo's brother had a bet on Leonard. Everyone knew Duran was going to loose that one in a strange fashion, so he did. Otherwise he would have been in a strange car accident. 2- A month, maybe 3 weeks before the fight Duran was in the DR singing and drinking rum like crazy. He did not train for that fight at all. There must be clips of him on a stupid show called El Show del Mediodía. Some things are not lost in the ring, some are lost out of the ring. A Prime trained Durán would have swept the floor with Hearns.

I believe he’s 1-4 against Hearns Hagler SRL.. He couldn’t handle them 3 American boys and by todays standards he beat a green and inexperienced SRL according to those who ranked Floyd’s win over Canelo. The second fight with SRL he quit. The third fight was one of the worse fights in boxing history. Got knocked out cold by Hearns in less than 5mins. When speaking of his resume his fans usually use his split decision win of Iran Barkley as one of his best wins. People tend to overrate things of the past due to nostalgia. If he were an American in this era his resume would be picked apart by critics.

If someone fights 120 fights till the age of 50, 100% you will have an off night once in a while haha.

Yes, he lost but most agree when he lost he wasn't at his best fir whatever reason so might not be professional at all times. So it's a case of when he lost you thought to yourself at his best that wouldn't of happened. If he wasn't great he wouldn't have best barkley or did so well v hagler. And SRL and hagler will tell you how good duran was if you want to know. Losing isn't a barrier to greatness just like having an unbeaten record isn't a stepping stone to greatness

Hey OP Sugar Ray Robinson also lost to D level guys how you feel about that?

OP should be banned for such stupid thread.

Duran is an ATG, and is overrated. He was at his best at lightweight…because he didn’t have to fight Benitez, Leonard, Hearns, and Hagler. Leonard and Benitez didn’t beat him based on size or power - Duran hit harder than both of them put together. Duran just didn’t know how to fight defensively responsible, constantly moving opponents. He was at a loss. Also, has nothing to do with his fighting skills…but he was a real jerk. A classic bully, he crudely mocked and cursed his opponents, and was utterly graceless and sulking in defeat. He was gluttonous and lazy, and did not possess a work ethic matching his talent. He quit in the most important fight of his life. Not because his life or health was in danger, but because he was a bully and feared failure, and quit to avoid it. As i said before, he was an ATG, if only because of his early body of work. But he is not the greatest fighter of his era, which many for some reason claim. The idea that he would have beaten Mayweather is laughable. Mayweather made an entire career off beating overly aggressive, easily frustrated and confused fighters.

Duran definitely is an atg, very well rounded and solid power. Sound defensively and smart in the ring, could finish a hurt fighter with the best of em. Love duran

Why would you say this? There is nothing that suggests Duran would "destroy" Floyd. If anything Floyd would probably adjust to his brawling style and outpoint him No he wouldn't. Duran would tie Floyd in knots with his vast array of faints.

A boxing God.

Duran would have broken Floyd in half, that's how overrated he was. Why would you say this? There is nothing that suggests Duran would "destroy" Floyd. If anything Floyd would probably adjust to his brawling style and outpoint him