Did you guys get a chance to check out these Andre Ward interviews? He is so 100%

Look we non-christians can do whatever the **** we want in life. Thats the privilege. We MIGHT have to fight our way thru hell in the after life but for now we have certain perks that come with being a non-believer. BUT if you claim to be a follower of Yahweh, Jehovah, the son of the seven seas, there is a strict guide you have to follow to be allowed into his kingdom. He also asks his followers to not sin and to not say his name in vain while living a sinful life like coWard is doing. For he will destroy them at the gates of heaven when they plead to enter. AND you said it yourself, even calling himself the son of god is blasphemous. That right there should expose the fake christian that he is. He will get smashed at the gates of heaven JUST for that, he is basically claiming he is JESUS CHRIST. Ahahah ... yeah , God also asks to " not wear clothes of wool and linen woven together”. Everybody would end up "smashed at the gates of heaven" if we play this game. However, it is irrelevant in regards to Ward or any other boxer.

GGG is not a household name....HBO pumps him up...RING MAGAZINE ...walk outside right now and ask some one do they know who gennady golovkin is....or triple G hard core fans know who is.....we're supposed to...trust me...ward-ggg would have done more than that abyssmal 97k he did with lemieux...Because Ward is known he is not a big draw yet. I answered yours, answer my question was the risk not higher vs ward, instead of those guys? Why are you asking that question? Of course Ward is a bigger threat. JCC jr. was always a bum and got destroyed in sparring by GGG. Froch... well, I won't say GGG would beat him for sure. Froch is bigger and still a good fighter. Point being, Froch is a proven $$$ generator (did you know he sold out Wembley Stadium to 80,000 fans?). Who is a bigger threat to Floyd, Canelo or Lara? Who did Floyd fight, and why? Golovkin vs Monroe did 1.474 peak ratings on HBO/1.338 average. Golovkin vs Monroe sold 15,000+ tickets. Ward vs Barrera was interesting, because Ward was moving up a weight class to fight a decentish opponent. Still, drew 1.064 average viewers/1.152 peak viewers and sold what, 6,800 tickets? (go ahead and verify the amount). Hardcore fans does not number in the millions. Hardcore fans is a limited number of people. Nobody outside of us gives a **** about fights like Lomachenko vs Rigondeaux, for instance. It was 150k PPV purchases, as stated by a large number of media. Are we still on that number posted elsewhere as a fact? This really shows you are biased, and not a, "hardcore boxing fan". We get it. You don't like GGG, or his team (and as a result, dislike GGG). You don't whatever negative publicity on GGG you can and always try to present it as fact. For what reason, I don't know. Usually people watch boxers they like for their personality/skill set. I don't get you people that always try to find a reason to hate.

LOL Obviously, you know as much about theology and religion in general as much as you know about boxing. Ward is a boxer, not a priest or cardinal and definitely not a scholar. He is a respectful guy, low profile, no scandals. You are reaching. However, if you wanted to attack him, you didn't need to google bible verses with reference to money. Calling oneself "Son of God" is already blasphemous , the Son of God (in the New Testament) is Jesus. Look we non-christians can do whatever the **** we want in life. Thats the privilege. We MIGHT have to fight our way thru hell in the after life but for now we have certain perks that come with being a non-believer. BUT if you claim to be a follower of Yahweh, Jehovah, the son of the seven seas, there is a strict guide you have to follow to be allowed into his kingdom. He also asks his followers to not sin and to not say his name in vain while living a sinful life like coWard is doing. For he will destroy them at the gates of heaven when they plead to enter. AND you said it yourself, even calling himself the son of god is blasphemous. That right there should expose the fake christian that he is. He will get smashed at the gates of heaven JUST for that, he is basically claiming he is JESUS CHRIST.

I can't get over how Abel totally dismissed Ward's chances against Kovalev I think Sanchez and Ward have a genuine dislike for each other. Sanchez's ego has grown considerably since GGG's rise to prominence....wasn't too long ago that he was critical of Kovalev as well.

Yeah but Gennady isnt proclaiming he is a christian and neither did he call himsef the goddamn SON OF GOD. Also, I am not christian either, Im just pointing out the hypocrisy with coWard who will wake up with Satans pitchfork up his ass in the depths of hell!! LOL Obviously, you know as much about theology and religion in general as much as you know about boxing. Ward is a boxer, not a priest or cardinal and definitely not a scholar. He is a respectful guy, low profile, no scandals. You are reaching. However, if you wanted to attack him, you didn't need to google bible verses with reference to money. Calling oneself "Son of God" is already blasphemous , the Son of God (in the New Testament) is Jesus.

Boxing is a shady business and the promoters are often the most shady. Goosen was no exception. Did Ward kill him? Of course not. Golovkin is an idiot. Promoters offer these deals that seem huge at the time of signing because fighters mostly come from an economically challenged background. It usually is not long before fighters, especially premium talents, realize they've signed a bad deal. Fighters are often taken aback because they do not realize how many parasites get a cut of their check and to that, Ward is no exception. thats the point....those numbers look great to a kid out of the Olympics...once you get past the point of being happy to be here and proving yourself...you're gonna look in your wallet and bank accounts and be like WTF...im taking all the risk

Yeah but Gennady isnt proclaiming he is a christian and neither did he call himsef the goddamn SON OF GOD. Also, I am not christian either, Im just pointing out the hypocrisy with coWard who will wake up with Satans pitchfork up his ass in the depths of hell!! Just stop man

I feel you...and respect you for answering my question. I see things similar to you, but there have been times where the employer wasnt exactly 100% about all the duties, then you start the job and you're doing waaaay more than you're anticipated. The employer showed favoritism to others and thats not right. I spoke up, got a raise and the manager was removed. I dont know all the details of his situation but from personal experience, even if the contract is signed and you are dissatisfied with how your career is being handled, you have the right to speak on your behave. My mom always says a closed mouth doesn't eat. Boxing is a shady business and the promoters are often the most shady. Goosen was no exception. Did Ward kill him? Of course not. Golovkin is an idiot. Promoters offer these deals that seem huge at the time of signing because fighters mostly come from an economically challenged background. It usually is not long before fighters, especially premium talents, realize they've signed a bad deal. Fighters are often taken aback because they do not realize how many parasites get a cut of their check and to that, Ward is no exception.

again, how many boxers in recent era concede a physical disadvantage when the opponent doesn't offer more of a draw then themselves? GGG is not a household name....HBO pumps him up...RING MAGAZINE ...walk outside right now and ask some one do they know who gennady golovkin is....or triple G hard core fans know who is.....we're supposed to...trust me...ward-ggg would have done more than that abyssmal 97k he did with lemieux...Because Ward is known he is not a big draw yet. I answered yours, answer my question was the risk not higher vs ward, instead of those guys?

he wasnt willing to because the risk was higher than froch and JCC...Ward is just better than those guys...they have action styles and styles would be easier to deal with than SOG...money played a part as well as SOG embarassing him. again, how many boxers in recent era concede a physical disadvantage when the opponent doesn't offer more of a draw then themselves?

Sorry pugilist, but he is the fakest guy I have seen in long time. You can tell he puts up a front like he is genuine, it's a cheap act. He sounds as fake as Kobe does sometimes when he is being interviewed. This guy is a fake christian, he is a liar, he talks about respect yet hits his opponents after the bell sounds and stares at them in a non-christian manner. He is greedy, he was fighting Goosen over MORE MONEY and went behind his back to sign with Roc Nation while under contract. Which ended up killing Goosen. I'm gonna go out on a limb and guess the big reason you don't like him is because your name is Golovkin.

I hope ya'll Ward nuthuggers support the guy and buy the Kovalev PPV in case Ward steps into that ring at the end of the year. Kovalev deserves some money and you guys can fund Ward's retirement. I cant wait til this fight happens. both are legit elite fighters...this is rare nowadays...im leaning towards ward to win...im a fan of both, it would fund both's retirements actually...they are both past 30 and probably only have a good 4-5 years left at the top :boxing:

I hope ya'll Ward nuthuggers support the guy and buy the Kovalev PPV in case Ward steps into that ring at the end of the year. Kovalev deserves some money and you guys can fund Ward's retirement.

I can't get over how Abel totally dismissed Ward's chances against Kovalev. he can use that salt to heal the wounds of his damaged ego

Yea...that's the state of boxing tho.Very few are solely interested in legacy. It's mostly about getting big money fights...and to make that happen it depends on both your fan base and your opponents fan base. There are very few guys in the sport who can carry it on their own, and they're a dying breed. agreed :boxing:

I can't get over how Abel totally dismissed Ward's chances against Kovalev.

I don't ever remember them talking about DeGale They were okay with Carl Froch and JCC Jr., because there is a lot more $ involved. Stop acting like $ doesn't matter in boxing. It always has, and always will, to every single ****ing fighter. Ward is a smaller draw than Golovkin. Carl Froch, and JCC Jr., are both larger draws. He's willing to give up physical advantages in height, and weight, against Froch and JCC Jr. Not Ward, because Ward isn't as popular as Golovkin is, as we see from his Barrera fight. he wasnt willing to because the risk was higher than froch and JCC...Ward is just better than those guys...they have action styles and styles would be easier to deal with than SOG...money played a part as well as SOG embarassing him.

Unfortunately in boxing, who's "better" is somewhat subjective and is generally decided by the fans. I get what you're saying about the working man's perspective, but then you should also apply it to fighters you're not a fan of. whether im a big fan of a fighter or not doesnt change my position on it bro trust me....everyone has their favorites but I like EVERYONE to get treated fairly...they all have families to feed and if I've accomplished more than you, my check should reflect that

164 wasnt good considering Ward wasnt active at the time....would have meant more to beat Ward at his best and not drained. Ward has the better resume, is the more proven fighter....why should he make all those sacrifices when he hasnt had to weigh below 68 in years. Kinda lame when his team said Froch, Degale and Chavez were ok at 168 they wanted to take a little out of ward because they knew a 100% Ward was gonna be a MAJOR obtstacle. Sad thats what they do now....fight the decent guys at the full weight and try to drain the better fighters. I can understand floyd vs Canelo or Pac vs Margarito....mayweather and Pac were waaaaay smaller Ward has what...ten pounds on him naturally....Pac and Floyd did that regularly....mayweather fought guys 15 pounds bigger than he was fight night and still was stylin' I don't ever remember them talking about DeGale They were okay with Carl Froch and JCC Jr., because there is a lot more $ involved. Stop acting like $ doesn't matter in boxing. It always has, and always will, to every single ****ing fighter. Ward is a smaller draw than Golovkin. Carl Froch, and JCC Jr., are both larger draws. He's willing to give up physical advantages in height, and weight, against Froch and JCC Jr. Not Ward, because Ward isn't as popular as Golovkin is, as we see from his Barrera fight. Even Ward knows this. He knows Golovkin doesn't want to fight him because he has been aiming at a fight with Canelo. Golovkin is doing what any other boxer would have done.

its about money of course....legacy-wise...a win over the winner(ward) means more than a win over the loser(froch) or a never was like chavez jr. Yea...that's the state of boxing tho.Very few are solely interested in legacy. It's mostly about getting big money fights...and to make that happen it depends on both your fan base and your opponents fan base. There are very few guys in the sport who can carry it on their own, and they're a dying breed.