He looked pitiful against Barrera. He can't fight at 175. How long would Barrera have lasted with Stevenson, never mind Kovalev. Ward should retire before he gets hurt.
Barrera is an excellent defender, with an impressive 282-27 amateur record and 17-0 pro record before Ward, who was 114-5 as an amateur, took his 0. Ward had not fought a top rated fighter since Edwin Rodriguez 3 years prior. It was an okay performance for Ward, in which he nearly swept the fight. When you perform in a form that you are not your best and you almost get a complete shut out anyway versus a guy with that good a amateur and pro record, then i'd say you are pretty good and should not retire.
He doesn't pass the eye test, simples. He's slower than Brandon Rios.
So if GGG beats Wade it won't be because of GGG's skill set?
How was a crippled old, past prime Solimon able to almost beat Wade(and get robbed). Would you say it was because of his skill set? If so, if GGG beats Ward, would you rate Solimon right there with GGG? He seemed to have got the better of Wade before GGG did, so I mean, yeah...would you rate Solimon equal to GGG?
Yes.
I'll see how Dwayne Wade looks vs GGG, if he goes in there and shows his poor skills again vs GGG like he did when he stepped up to Soliman and doesn't rise to the occasion then it would be no coincidence.
Barrera did what he had to do with the level of opposition.
So if GGG beats Wade it won't be because of GGG's skill set?
Who did Bareera look so impressive against to get to that #1 spot? Lacy? Murat?
Wade and Barerra are no different...
Yes.
I'll see how Dwayne Wade looks vs GGG, if he goes in there and shows his poor skills again vs GGG like he did when he stepped up to Soliman and doesn't rise to the occasion then it would be no coincidence.
Barrera did what he had to do with the level of opposition.
Wade has shown to have poor skills already, he got a gift vs a 50 year old Sam Soliman. Barrera was the opposite, he showed promise before Ward, and even in the Ward fight he showed he can defend and box.
Who did Bareera look so impressive against to get to that #1 spot? Lacy? Murat?
Wade and Barerra are no different...
Domenic Wade was 167-10 and is 18-0 As a pro....same level as Barrera pretty much...not good
Ward looked pretty good...he's just not someone who puts guys away unfortunately...would have been nice to see him finish him impressivelyAnd Wade is also a 3 time NBA world champion
Domenic Wade was 167-10 and is 18-0 As a pro....same level as Barrera pretty much...not good
Wade has shown to have poor skills already, he got a gift vs a 50 year old Sam Soliman. Barrera was the opposite, he showed promise before Ward, and even in the Ward fight he showed he can defend and box.
Barrera is an excellent defender, with an impressive 282-27 amateur record and 17-0 pro record before Ward, who was 114-5 as an amateur, took his 0. Ward had not fought a top rated fighter since Edwin Rodriguez 3 years prior. It was an okay performance for Ward, in which he nearly swept the fight. When you perform in a form that you are not your best and you almost get a complete shut out anyway versus a guy with that good a amateur and pro record, then i'd say you are pretty good and should not retire.
Domenic Wade was 167-10 and is 18-0 As a pro....same level as Barrera pretty much...not good
Ward looked pretty good...he's just not someone who puts guys away unfortunately...would have been nice to see him finish him impressively
Barrera is an excellent defender, with an impressive 282-27 amateur record and 17-0 pro record before Ward, who was 114-5 as an amateur, took his 0. Ward had not fought a top rated fighter since Edwin Rodriguez 3 years prior. It was an okay performance for Ward, in which he nearly swept the fight. When you perform in a form that you are not your best and you almost get a complete shut out anyway versus a guy with that good a amateur and pro record, then i'd say you are pretty good and should not retire.
He looked pitiful against Barrera. He can't fight at 175. How long would Barrera have lasted with Stevenson, never mind Kovalev. Ward should retire before he gets hurt.
Well it is true he has nothing left to prove....
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Or past prime...
So Kovalev should get no credit for beating an inactive and past his prime fighter, good to know. By that logic, Kovalev will be humiliated if he loses to such a fighter.
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He was a bit rusty but still schooled the kid...Barerra was certainly no world beater but he got beat easily... Ward would beat GGG but Kovalev is a different animal, he's big,strong,aggressive, has a great jab,good movement,uses feints....
Ward should have at least one more fight before that one....50/50 after the tuneups...
It ain't all about knockouts and no he didn't look pitiful at all, he looked rusty. The fact that he's performed considerably better than that against better opponents tells us that he was rusty.
Or past prime...
Yeah hang them up Ward. Nobody wants to see your talented behind fighting anymore. Sure as heck don't want to see the best against the best in the light heavyweight division. Don't want to see you potentially take down the king of the division whom people are saying will knock you out. Certainly don't want to pay for a PPV that will be worth the money. And most of all, we don't want to see a potentially great fighter making it into the Hall of fame. Absolutely zero benefit to Ward staying in the game.
After watching the fight again, he looked worse to me than the first time i watched it. Chalk it up to the weight, ring rust, age or whatever...but there's a noticeable decline. I've always thought he was the guy with the tools to beat ggg or kovalev, but an effort like that won't cut it. I think the inactivity at that stage of his career didn't help. We may never see the "old" andre ward again.
It ain't all about knockouts and no he didn't look pitiful at all, he looked rusty. The fact that he's performed considerably better than that against better opponents tells us that he was rusty.