Fact Is Amir Khan Trained Himself For About 65% Of The Danny Garcia Fight Camp..

Any fighter who has to train themselves for that much of a camp just won't be the same fighter come fight time. Pacquiao vs Bradley June 2012 Khan vs Garcia July 2012 Roach flew to the Phillipines to train Pacquiao for the Bradley fight so Khan had no choice but to train himself at Wildcard for a huge part of the Danny Garcia fight camp since the fights were only one month apart. Approximately 65% of the camp was spent self-training. Roach only settled back with Khan at the Wildcard for the last quarter of the 16-week camp. While Roach was AWOL, they communicated by phone and over the internet but obviously that's nothing compared to the real thing. That jab-uppercut combination Khan kept throwing from round one was something he trained himself to do in sparring and one session was recorded on video. He's throwing the same jab-uppercut combo again and again, getting caught the same way Garcia caught him. Roach isn't even in the same country at the time to spot and correct the mistake. Khan fell in love with that combo in sparring and became extremely predictable from round 1, only to have Garcia eventually time it and catch him with a huge close-line style hook. Even a seasoned veteran like B-Hop would always need a trainer for the entire duration of a fight camp, it's something any boxer requires in order to correct the mistakes they'll inevitably make, keep them focused, execute the game plan correctly etc... Any high level fighter who is forced to train themselves would just not be the same fighter come fight time, they'll inevitably make mistakes. So that's the real reason Khan lost the Garcia fight and fired Roach. In my opinion, many high level fighters would have beaten Khan that night due to his predictability which resulted from an absent trainer and him being forced to train himself for a large part of the fight camp. Many great fighters would get beat if they were placed in a similar situation, having no choice but to train themselves. So there we have it. Now we know the truth.

Comments (20)

winning rounds he got stopped in 4 right? dropped in the 3rd right And what numbers come before 3 and 4? :lol1:

10y ago

TOBYLEE1

I'm just stating the facts. Khan trained himself for most of the camp. Whether you like it or not the fact is being put in that situation would make a huge difference to any boxer, in any high-level fight. In your world that is a fact. I see more like non stop excuses

10y ago

LarryX

:haha: :haha: Yeah and we should all ignore the fact that Khan was actually winning rounds before he got knocked silly. :lol1: winning rounds he got stopped in 4 right? dropped in the 3rd right

10y ago

emre_belozoglu

Khans worse with Hunter he improved in some areas but looking at the overall picture he's worse. not as good offensively or defensively he still gets caught maybe even more and doesn't have the same legs to run. Alexander would have been easy enough at 140 Algeiri would have put up a fight but Khan would probably run away with it collazo is decent but Khan clinched a lot. He can't seem to get off as easy as he used too

10y ago

PeasantCrusha

So.... training yourself turns your jaw into glass? Noted. According to haters looking to take away from Danny smashing that crystal...

10y ago

FlatLine

He did what he's supposed to do against Alexander and Collazo, underperformed against Diaz and Algieri. He hasn't had one great performance under Hunter. Performance evaluation can be subjective in some cases but in others it's pretty undeniable. He shut out Alexander and Collazo, they were virtually punch perfect performances. No one beat Alexander as clinically as that before or since. Dropped Collazo 3 times, outboxed him extremely easily. Diaz was coming off a Draw with Shawn Porter only 4 months earlier, Khan beat him in one fight, Porter needed 2. Algieri he beat 9 rounds to 3, as two judges correctly scored. That was a pretty one-sided fight, not the close fight that some have claimed. But I'd agree Diaz and Algieri definitely weren't Great performances they were only decent or passable.

10y ago

Outwest_Exp_355

:haha: :haha: Yeah and we should all ignore the fact that Khan was actually winning rounds before he got knocked silly. :lol1: He won one round. In the 2nd Danny was already walking Khan down and touching Khan up. We all know what happened after that.

10y ago

b00g13man

So you missed the part where Roach indirectly admitted that Khan left him because he was training too many fighters? Convenient oversight on your part.. You and that other dude always remind me of pom-pom waving cheerleaders for the losing team. :lol1: http://trendingsearches.net/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/Amir-Khan-on-the-canvas-a-008.jpg https://i.ytimg.com/vi/NyxCWJdx63c/hqdefault.jpg http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2013/10/02/article-2441733-012C2C5C00000514-157_634x411.jpg

10y ago

FlatLine

All just speculation, from your part but keep pushing them as 'facts' lol. You have changed your facts several times already after someone made you look silly. Khan was winning the fight, Roach knew Garcia was trying to time Khan and instructed him to be careful and watch the left hook when coming in, Khan chose to ignore his advice and we know what happened next. It's funny that you choose to ignore this and claim his loss was due to other factors. Lol.. I haven't changed any facts and I have to repeat myself yet again. Khan trained himself to throw that jab-uppercut combo, he got addicted to it in sparring and there's sparring footage showing him getting caught the same way Garcia caught him. He threw that combo repeatedly since the first round, the jab-uppercut, making him very predictable. Roach wasn't there to correct those mistakes properly in sparring. The bad habit had already crept in because Khan had been left to train himself. Roach saying watch out for the hook during the fight isn't enough to eradicate the bad habit. He needed to spend weeks training Khan to stop the bad habit, but he didn't. Roach just offering a few fleeting words of advice during a fight is meaningless compared to the actual training and mistake-correction during the fight camp itself.

10y ago

FlatLine

You want to blame it on Roach, but what's your excuse for his less than impressive performances since leaving Roach? Khan looked better against Garcia (before getting caught) than he ever has under Hunter. Great performances vs Alexander and Collazo. Decent performances against Diaz and Algieri. Diaz got a draw against Porter only a few months before the Khan fight, and most people thought he beat Porter. Porter needed 2 fights to beat Diaz, Khan did it in one. Arguably, same could apply to the Mayweather -Maidana fights.. lol

10y ago

LetOutTheCage

How many times do I need to repeat things before it sinks in? Khan trained himself for the vast majority of the camp, 65% is obviously an estimate, perhaps even an underestimation on my part, perhaps not. That's why I said "about 65%" in the title, in case some anal troll would try to use the exact percentage as some sort point of contention. Remind you of anyone? lol.. Even when Roach and Khan were in the same country at the same time, Roach spent much more time training Pacquiao and Chavez Jr, until their fights had passed. Roach admitted in an interview that Khan fired him because he was training a lot of fighters. He couldn't provide anywhere near the necessary quality time that 3 boxers who are going into big fights need. Especially given the close proximity of their fights at the time. He could just about manage 2 and that was Pac and Chavez Jr.. Why you guys can't seem to comprehend the reality of the situation is beyond me. Roach is only human and can't be in 3 places at once so Khan ended up having to train himself for the vast majority of the camp. It's pretty straightforward. Still, mildly amusing seeing how the average boxing scene poster's brain ticks.. lol All just speculation, from your part but keep pushing them as 'facts' lol. You have changed your facts several times already after someone made you look silly. Khan was winning the fight, Roach knew Garcia was trying to time Khan and instructed him to be careful and watch the left hook when coming in, Khan chose to ignore his advice and we know what happened next. It's funny that you choose to ignore this and claim his loss was due to other factors.

10y ago

FlatLine

Roach told Khan to watch Garcia's left hook when coming in, Khan ignored him just like he has ignored the advice of his other trainers and got caught. No training and preparation will offset Khan's ego, your 65% claim is complete nonsense and you have been called out on it, continue to spout this gibberish and expect people to call you out on it. How many times do I need to repeat things before it sinks in? Khan trained himself for the vast majority of the camp, 65% is obviously an estimate, perhaps even an underestimation on my part, perhaps not. That's why I said "about 65%" in the title, in case some anal troll would try to use the exact percentage as some sort point of contention. Remind you of anyone? lol.. Even when Roach and Khan were in the same country at the same time, Roach spent much more time training Pacquiao and Chavez Jr, until their fights had passed. Roach admitted in an interview that Khan fired him because he was training a lot of fighters. He couldn't provide anywhere near the necessary quality time that 3 boxers who are going into big fights need. Especially given the close proximity of their fights at the time. He could just about manage 2 and that was Pac and Chavez Jr.. Why you guys can't seem to comprehend the reality of the situation is beyond me. Roach is only human and can't be in 3 places at once so Khan ended up having to train himself for the vast majority of the camp. It's pretty straightforward. Still, mildly amusing seeing how the average boxing scene poster's brain ticks.. lol

10y ago

Crazylegs77

So.... training yourself turns your jaw into glass? Noted. :haha: :haha: Yeah and we should all ignore the fact that Khan was actually winning rounds before he got knocked silly. :lol1:

10y ago

Outwest_Exp_355

So .what about those other fught where he got drop more then 8 times and KOed by proscott? Who the phuck has a 16 week training camp!?? im calling bs on your facts Khan trained 8 months for Collazo.

10y ago

LetOutTheCage

So you're shaping up to be another pom-pom waving cheerleader I see. They always provide some light relief.. lol Even after Roach admits Khan left him because he was spreading himself too thinly training too many fighters, you still choose to affiliate with the losing team. Another genius joins Boxing Scene... lol Roach told Khan to watch Garcia's left hook when coming in, Khan ignored him just like he has ignored the advice of his other trainers and got caught. No training and preparation will offset Khan's ego, your 65% claim is complete nonsense and you have been called out on it, continue to spout this gibberish and expect people to call you out on it.

10y ago

FlatLine

I haven't been on these forums long but the guy seems to make the most stupid threads. 65% fact....Lol So you're shaping up to be another pom-pom waving cheerleader I see. They always provide some light relief.. lol Even after Roach admits Khan left him because he was spreading himself too thinly training too many fighters, you still choose to affiliate with the losing team. Another genius joins Boxing Scene... lol

10y ago

LetOutTheCage

:lol1::lol1::lol1: once again OP has been thoroughly owned in here. ****ing dummy. I haven't been on these forums long but the guy seems to make the most stupid threads. 65% fact....Lol

10y ago

boxinggod101

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10y ago

SplitSecond

Khan will soon be complaining how Hunter's gym is too soft and he didn't get any real work to harden him up and peak physically. That's what Mayfield complained about.

10y ago

FlatLine

I read it, against my better judgement. You were all over the place, and got clowned in your own thread. Again. So you missed the part where Roach indirectly admitted that Khan left him because he was training too many fighters? Convenient oversight on your part.. lol You and that other dude always remind me of pom-pom waving cheerleaders for the losing team. :lol1:

10y ago