I really like Luis Ortiz

I really think that he is the best HW out there honestly. I was shocked that he took out Jennings like he did and he does have boxing skills to go along with the power. I'd pick him to beat Wlad, Fury, Joshua and Wilder at this point based on what I've seen. :boxing: Didn't know you were still around, Mathed! Good to see ya. In regards to best heavyweight i don't think the same, but he can handle some of the top 10 easily. I think a Wlad that fought Povetkin or the Cobra takes him. Last few fights wlad, not so much.

The third best HW on the planet behind Fury & Wlad.

I saw a few of his highlights, quite impress with his stance but I don't want to start hyping him up until I see more of him against better names.

He probably beats everyone except Fury. Not a chance that Joshua goes anywhere near him.

Jarrell Miller will beat them all. Big Baby is a tank.

I can't imagine too many promoters/managers of well known fighters want to throw their guy in with Luis Ortiz. He's very high risk-low reward right now. Agreed. He will need mandatory fights to get a shot with his drug record. Without some kind of bizarre injury situation Joshua will beat Martin and with his following IBF will give him Bute esc protection. WBC have been sheltering wilder for years now. This next fight is his first proper test. Ortiz will need to go after the winner of fury and Wlad

Im on the the bandwagon. I think Ortiz has the goods. His age worries me but he can make some noise if he can get the fights soon.

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This is true.. so are most athletes though In America In the UK big names get caught that is it for them.

I think Luis Ortiz can beat them all. Me too. And to the assh0le that said without steroids testing... all the HW are roided since decades ago

I can't imagine too many promoters/managers of well known fighters want to throw their guy in with Luis Ortiz. He's very high risk-low reward right now.

Im around 170 right now and I think I can beat Ortiz myself. SO that should let you know he isnt all that. The only guy I wouldnt be confident of beating atm as I am without any sort of training might be Klitschko because he knows how to work smaller fighters and I am 5'8. Id give it my best shot and could probably land something big rushing him. god I love you You got many admirers and fans in case you haven't noticed :D smh fanboys

Does he even have an opponent yet:dunno:? PRPP:boxing:

The guy can punch and has some nice combination/counter abilities. I say he beats AJ at this point. I really think that he is the best HW out there honestly. I was shocked that he took out Jennings like he did and he does have boxing skills to go along with the power. I'd pick him to beat Wlad, Fury, Joshua and Wilder at this point based on what I've seen. :boxing:

too bad he tested positive for roids not too long ago

It ain't a body building contest. Ortiz looked good in his last fight, paced himself, picked his shots and scored the big KO Indeed. In fact, if we're comparing their last two fights; Joshua rebounded after nearly being put away by a guy no one had ever heard of. Ortiz, while suffering the flu, KO'd a proven contender who had just taken the 10 year champ 12 rounds. On paper, I heavily favor king Kong. However, he's at that age where high level fights might age him quickly.

AJ is the future king of the HW. Luis is old and fat. It ain't a body building contest. Ortiz looked good in his last fight, paced himself, picked his shots and scored the big KO

Ortiz is a drug cheat. Shouldn't even be allowed to fight. This is true.. so are most athletes though

Ortiz is a drug cheat. Shouldn't even be allowed to fight.

Ortiz is a nightmare for any of the top heavies. Too bad he's so late in his career. Makes it hard to predict how he'll do over the next few years. Right now, he might be the best HW. He would baffle Joshua because Ortiz doesn't fight like other heavies. Strong ring IQ with a large variety of attacks.