Would you rather see Canelo relinquish the 160 belt for GGG than for them to fight at a catch weight? Because the general consensus is you would.
Now imagine there wasn't a belt on the line, wouldn't it be reasonable for them to meet in the middle? I doubt anyone would complain before Canelo beat Cotto.
The question is, why tf do you care about if GGG gets the lineal belt or not? What do you gain if Canelo drops the belt and GGG fights some hopeless for it? You get no fight, all you get is some little print on boxrec that says GGG is the best middleweight...but everyone already knows he is the best middleweight so...
very simple answer to very stupid question:
Canelo should fight at 160 or drop the belt. If chooses to drop then fight might happen ad negotiable weight later on.
What belt did Golovkin hold at 168lbs that he was holding hostage your troll comment holds absolutely no weight to the point I'm bringing up.
Boxing is a business related sport and guys like Ward aren't big names and the only person you can fault for the Ward fight not happening is Ward the direction he took his entire career has been the incorrect one fighting negative, cherry picking bums after bums.
Just know this Ward is a mega talented fighter but he isn't as well known or as successful as Carl Froch poor Ward couldn't fill out a stadium that goes past 20k that isn't in his home, in fact, I doubt he'd even do it in his own home town.
A hard core g string ball gagger just accused someone else of cherry picking bum after bum? Blasphemy!
Well I can campaign to be the best middleweight for 15 years. 15 years fighting my way up the ladder. I get to the top of the tree having made 160lbs my whole career. I get a title shot.
'You gotta fight at 155lbs! You gotta cut 5lbs off your 6% body fat, efficient fighting machine frame. Why? Cause I can do it and it'll screw you up.'
Retarded and cowardly. Pretty simple really. I genuinely liked Canelo (though was annoyed by his stamina issues) but this has completely put me off. I'm neutral to mildly positive on GGG but from here on Canelo's finished for me.
The belt needs to be freed up for actual middleweights. I don't much care how. In the ring or in the courts. Either way is better for boxing.
Excellent post.
Well I can campaign to be the best middleweight for 15 years. 15 years fighting my way up the ladder. I get to the top of the tree having made 160lbs my whole career. I get a title shot.
'You gotta fight at 155lbs! You gotta cut 5lbs off your 6% body fat, efficient fighting machine frame. Why? Cause I can do it and it'll screw you up.'
Retarded and cowardly. Pretty simple really. I genuinely liked Canelo (though was annoyed by his stamina issues) but this has completely put me off. I'm neutral to mildly positive on GGG but from here on Canelo's finished for me.
The belt needs to be freed up for actual middleweights. I don't much care how. In the ring or in the courts. Either way is better for boxing.
Golovkin could have had the belt last year, he's chosen to step aside twice, he obviously cares more about the $$$$.
The WBC belt on its own is not worth a whole lot. As part of a unification it is -- the whole is greater than the sum of its parts in this case. As for Canelo, yes he wants the $$$ but he also wants the lineal title. If they are willing to go to a catchweight, they certainly aren't going to throw it out there now months before they even get to the table.
Obviously, Cotto was never going to fight GGG. Canelo winning was a good thing. Canelo is the fight they want because Canelo will fight eventually. They lose nothing in letting him keep the belt warm for now. They knew they had the WBO belt and the IBF mandatory to also pursue this year. So, if Canelo wants to parade around as the MW champ for another 7 or 8 months while GGG takes care of other business, they couldn't care less. Now, if Kahn manages to beat Canelo.....
If they were not fighting for the title in the WBC mandatory fight, I wouldn't mind a CW. But for the guy to demand the champ who has been standing by waiting for his mando shot for almost two years to drop to 155 to fight for the 160 pound belt is a joke.
At this point, I just want to see Canelo immobilized with his eyes completely white laying on the canvas with no signs of movement. I hate the fraud coward more than floyd, just imagine. So Im willing to see Gennady take 90-10% at 155. **** it. I want to see Canelo ****ing suffer and get beat down to the ****ing ground in disturbing and violent fashion. I want to see the worst beating any human has taken in life. I want Gennady to take padding out of his gloves, put plaster on his wraps and just batter away without any kind of pity POSESSED BY THE DEVIL SATAN HIMSELF. I want to see BLOOD and ****ing pain on Canelos face.
That's the spirit! :biggthump
At this point, I just want to see Canelo immobilized with his eyes completely white laying on the canvas with no signs of movement. I hate the fraud coward more than floyd, just imagine. So Im willing to see Gennady take 90-10% at 155. **** it. I want to see Canelo ****ing suffer and get beat down to the ****ing ground in disturbing and violent fashion. I want to see the worst beating any human has taken in life. I want Gennady to take padding out of his gloves, put plaster on his wraps and just batter away without any kind of pity POSESSED BY THE DEVIL SATAN HIMSELF. I want to see BLOOD and ****ing pain on Canelos face.
Why do lames like you brag about Floyd beating 21 champions if the belts don't matter?
Bwuahahahahaah omg this comment you should be arrested for assault absolutely savage.
Who cares about a damn belt. Would you have cared if May Pac had no belt on the line? This fight is bigger than some belt. Canelo is a big JMW and GGG is a small MW so why not just meet in the middle?
GGG doesn't even care about the belt, he is just using it as leverage to get more money! He is happy to go down a few pounds, he's already said that in the past. This is all wbout squeezing whatever money he can out of the A side while his fans think its about something greater like "honoring the belt" lol!Why do lames like you brag about Floyd beating 21 champions if the belts don't matter?
Canelo walked into GGG neighborhood and wants him to drop weight to fight him..how in the fvck does that make sense? the fight is for 160 supremacy...not 155 supremacy..The question you should be asking is if Martinez had just retired when he knew he was done would Cotto,Canelo or Khan ever even had the balls to go to middleweight???
Who cares about a damn belt. Would you have cared if May Pac had no belt on the line? This fight is bigger than some belt. Canelo is a big JMW and GGG is a small MW so why not just meet in the middle?
GGG doesn't even care about the belt, he is just using it as leverage to get more money! He is happy to go down a few pounds, he's already said that in the past. This is all wbout squeezing whatever money he can out of the A side while his fans think its about something greater like "honoring the belt" lol!
Like Golovkin refused to move up?
What belt did Golovkin hold at 168lbs that he was holding hostage your troll comment holds absolutely no weight to the point I'm bringing up.
Boxing is a business related sport and guys like Ward aren't big names and the only person you can fault for the Ward fight not happening is Ward the direction he took his entire career has been the incorrect one fighting negative, cherry picking bums after bums.
Just know this Ward is a mega talented fighter but he isn't as well known or as successful as Carl Froch poor Ward couldn't fill out a stadium that goes past 20k that isn't in his home, in fact, I doubt he'd even do it in his own home town.
Canelo walked into GGG neighborhood and wants him to drop weight to fight him..how in the fvck does that make sense? the fight is for 160 supremacy...not 155 supremacy..The question you should be asking is if Martinez had just retired when he knew he was done would Cotto,Canelo or Khan ever even had the balls to go to middleweight???
This isn't Khan fault this is entirely Oscar and Canelo fault!
Khan has been seeking a big fight but guys like Floyd and Pacquiao pussied out on it.
It's definitely unfortunate that Canelo is a chicken **** ***** who isn't willing to fight the real champion of 160 when he knows it can easily be made the act of a coward but people on here will try to protect the pretender.
Canelo walked into GGG neighborhood and wants him to drop weight to fight him..how in the fvck does that make sense? the fight is for 160 supremacy...not 155 supremacy..The question you should be asking is if Martinez had just retired when he knew he was done would Cotto,Canelo or Khan ever even had the balls to go to middleweight???
Fight at the designated weight or drop the damn belt simple as that time to stop making a mockery of the division you can't just create a 1+ lbs division just because you're too chicken **** to move up all the way to 160.
That's the truth that a lot of Canelo fans don't want to hear but Canelo has been a ***** whilst he has fought good fighters he has forced them up to his will because he is too scared of giving away that weight advantage the act of possibly a not so special fighter wanting to prolong the hype, maybe.