As per ESPN Juan Estrada WBA/WBO said he was not ready just yet to fight Pound for Pound king Roman Gonzalez..
http://espndeportes.espn.go.com/boxeo/nota/_/id/2594554/estrada-no-quiso-pelea-ante-chocolatito-alegan-sus-manejadores
Estrada was offered the fight first before McWilliams but he said he was not ready, so they chose the next best fighter that was available..
Estrada keeps ducking Roman..!:boxing:
Man Aztekkas your hatin hard bro - Arroyo is better than Brian Viloria now? Stop it please.
Overall career? No. In regards to where they stand right now? Yup. Arroyo arguably beat the third best man in the division in 2014, he isn't nearly as old as Viloria and hasn't had to endure the same wear and tear. After Viloria lost to Estrada... Tell me, what exactly did he do or whom did he beat to garner the Roman shot? Bro, he was losing the fight to freaking Zuñiga before the ko :lol1: . Come on.. Aside from like 2 posters, no one gave a shot to Viloria in the Gonzalez fight.
Plus, how am I hating if I'm saying Arroyo>>>Viloria currently yet Roman will have faced both come he later part of April?
:lol1: you have yet to reply to my questions, if anything you reply with deflections. What does your post have anything to do with mine?
again, why no mention of Estrada's name when the Segura clash initially fell through? Wouldn't that have been the perfect time to let the public know that Estrada turned down the fight, thus being forced to move on and find a viable opponent? Especially since money is no longer an issue and Blandon is so confident that he is boastful in regards to getting what they demand.
I answered your questions, posted videos and interviews with both sides. All I get from you is confirmation on my initial suspicion... Admit it, you never wanted the rematch in the first place :lol1: . If a weight drained Gallo gave Roman his toughest fight at 108, he would melt Chocobultito this time around.
Yeah Team Chocolatito should address what Team Gallo/Zanfer should address to the public as if its their responsibility. Im gone bro.
Its the norm for p4p champ everyone from lower weights to a division higher was being mentioned, even Segura pulled out of a great fight - looks like they might be overwhelmed with so many viable opponents and made a few bad calls. Remember how everyone wanted a piece of Money May? so many names were brought up as high as 168 - '' Heavy is the head the wears the crown. ''
Im not sure I want to see RG vs Estrada II anymore - you know now they will say Chocolatito beat up a cripple. :wave:
:lol1: you have yet to reply to my questions, if anything you reply with deflections. What does your post have anything to do with mine?
again, why no mention of Estrada's name when the Segura clash initially fell through? Wouldn't that have been the perfect time to let the public know that Estrada turned down the fight, thus being forced to move on and find a viable opponent? Especially since money is no longer an issue and Blandon is so confident that he is boastful in regards to getting what they demand.
I answered your questions, posted videos and interviews with both sides. All I get from you is confirmation on my initial suspicion... Admit it, you never wanted the rematch in the first place :lol1: . If a weight drained Gallo gave Roman his toughest fight at 108, he would melt Chocobultito this time around.
Sosa, Leon, Fuentes and Viloria were far from "the best opponents available". If you argue otherwise.. Well then, your knowledge of the division is rather limited.
I must admit however, Arroyo is finally a good name. Relatively young and fresh with solid skill and power.
Man Aztekkas your hatin hard bro - Arroyo is better than Brian Viloria now? Stop it please.
So what would be the reason for him to pull out against an easy opponent, aside from an injury? Plus he did, check out the most recent video interview I posted along with the "other kids team" and the paper work ordeal, in which Estrada acknowledged his inactivity as a direct result from his injuries. Was it odd that it had very little coverage? Sure, I would say so. However, the tune up fight wasn't announced yet in any outlet neither, so it wouldn't have made a difference since the general public had no idea the tune up was already scheduled for set date.
Common sense also tells you that Roman's team would have mentioned Estrada's name as a possible opponent as soon as the Segura clash fell through.. Especially since you know, money isn't an issue anymore (according to Blandon himself) and everyone aware of Roman is anxiously waiting for the rematch. Oh, what a coincidence that Roman's team finally speaks out about Estrada's team turning down the fight not long after Roman gets locked down for Arroyo.
Funny how everyone jumped the gun so quickly yesterday... But as soon as Blandon states his knowledge regarding Estrada's "problems with his wrist"... Well then, the thread slowly dies off.
Its the norm for p4p champ everyone from lower weights to a division higher was being mentioned, even Segura pulled out of a great fight - looks like they might be overwhelmed with so many viable opponents and made a few bad calls. Remember how everyone wanted a piece of Money May? so many names were brought up as high as 168 - '' Heavy is the head the wears the crown. ''
Im not sure I want to see RG vs Estrada II anymore - you know now they will say Chocolatito beat up a cripple. :wave:
So much for Gonzales avoiding the rematch. Was trying to get Gallo and Gallo isn't ready for that rematch. I don't care about the reasons, might be injury or not enough training, who cares? Chocolatito fights the best available opponents until Estrada is ready. No one should ever try to discredit Gonzales.
Sosa, Leon, Fuentes and Viloria were far from "the best opponents available". If you argue otherwise.. Well then, your knowledge of the division is rather limited.
I must admit however, Arroyo is finally a good name. Relatively young and fresh with solid skill and power.
Common sense would tell a boxer to address an injury? Funny how it was the other kids team that requested the paper work from Zanfer not the other way around.
So what would be the reason for him to pull out against an easy opponent, aside from an injury? Plus he did, check out the most recent video interview I posted along with the "other kids team" and the paper work ordeal, in which Estrada acknowledged his inactivity as a direct result from his injuries. Was it odd that it had very little coverage? Sure, I would say so. However, the tune up fight wasn't announced yet in any outlet neither, so it wouldn't have made a difference since the general public had no idea the tune up was already scheduled for set date.
Common sense also tells you that Roman's team would have mentioned Estrada's name as a possible opponent as soon as the Segura clash fell through.. Especially since you know, money isn't an issue anymore (according to Blandon himself) and everyone aware of Roman is anxiously waiting for the rematch. Oh, what a coincidence that Roman's team finally speaks out about Estrada's team turning down the fight not long after Roman gets locked down for Arroyo.
Funny how everyone jumped the gun so quickly yesterday... But as soon as Blandon states his knowledge regarding Estrada's "problems with his wrist"... Well then, the thread slowly dies off.
So much for Gonzales avoiding the rematch. Was trying to get Gallo and Gallo isn't ready for that rematch. I don't care about the reasons, might be injury or not enough training, who cares? Chocolatito fights the best available opponents until Estrada is ready. No one should ever try to discredit Gonzales.
What does his silence have to do with anything? It's not like he's constantly lunging verbal jabs at anyone on his social media regardless. His team usually does the talking and they already stated that they wanted Nietes first and Gonzalez next, both this very year. He also has yet to even re schedule his tune up fight, so we will see where he's headed soon enough.
Common sense would tell a boxer to address an injury? Funny how it was the other kids team that requested the paper work from Zanfer not the other way around.
Yeah the line of questioning is different from one journalist to the next - in other words they all dont ask the same question OR word for word ; what do we know? All I know is that ''Gallito'' has been rather quiet lately - looking around his social media and trying to find anything from him on his timeline ....nothing.
What does his silence have to do with anything? It's not like he's constantly lunging verbal jabs at anyone on his social media regardless. His team usually does the talking and they already stated that they wanted Nietes first and Gonzalez next, both this very year. He also has yet to even re schedule his tune up fight, so we will see where he's headed soon enough.
You are being rather daft. Blandon says one thing one moment then turns around and claims another. In the initial post yesterday he never mentioned any type of injury reports on behalf of Estrada's team... Now all of a sudden he brushes it off as if it was a minor detail he left out.
How has it been resolved and why are you so confident it has? Simply because Blandon said so? :lol1: this is coming from the same side that had their fighter tell the press a fight with Segura was set for March 5th, then turned around and said there was a miscommunication.
Truth of the matter is there exists paper work regarding Eatrada's injury. He pulled out of a tune up last month and has yet to be rescheduled, at the same time Roman's team claim they got turned down... No ***** lol. Can you not see the illusion Blandon attempted to manufacture? It's all right in front of you, on record and you can't seem to gather it and piece it together. It's really not that hard to see what a sloppy job Blandon did at attempting to orchestrate a "duck" accusation towards Estrada. His attempt is so poor, it's damn near comical.
Yeah the line of questioning is different from one journalist to the next - in other words they all dont ask the same question OR word for word ; what do we know? All I know is that ''Gallito'' has been rather quiet lately - looking around his social media and trying to find anything from him on his timeline ....nothing.
Blandon is simply calling BS on team Zanfer and co and is clearing up any talk of Gonzalez pricing himself out - He thinks Zanfer made and excuse with an injury that has 'always' been present but now that the conflict on fighters purses has been resolved a new/old issue 'Injury' is an obstacle. Simple.
You are being rather daft. Blandon says one thing one moment then turns around and claims another. In the initial post yesterday he never mentioned any type of injury reports on behalf of Estrada's team... Now all of a sudden he brushes it off as if it was a minor detail he left out.
How has it been resolved and why are you so confident it has? Simply because Blandon said so? :lol1: this is coming from the same side that had their fighter tell the press a fight with Segura was set for March 5th, then turned around and said there was a miscommunication.
Truth of the matter is there exists paper work regarding Eatrada's injury. He pulled out of a tune up last month and has yet to be rescheduled, at the same time Roman's team claim they got turned down... No ***** lol. Can you not see the illusion Blandon attempted to manufacture? It's all right in front of you, on record and you can't seem to gather it and piece it together. It's really not that hard to see what a sloppy job Blandon did at attempting to orchestrate a "duck" accusation towards Estrada. His attempt is so poor, it's damn near comical.
http://www.elnuevodiario.com.ni/deportes/384903-blandon-creo-que-equipo-gallo-no-confia/
Translation: The big fights that the Mexican Juan Francisco "Gallo" Estrada has been looking for might be ready this 2016, and that's because his promoter Fernando Beltran has revealed his plan to first put together a fight against the Filipino Donnie Nietes and then go after the Nicaraguan, Roman "Chocolatito" Gonzalez, whom they accused of giving the run around to the idol from Sonora.
"We will be looking to make both fights, against Donnie Nietes and then Roman Gonzalez", said the president of Zanfer. "Roman, in all his declarations, for good or bad, has given us the run around. He tells us about HBO having the last word, the high amounts of money he's asking for... All we are asking for is for him to get in the ring. That's the only thing we ask for, to see him in front of us in a ring, we don't ask for the money or nothing else", said Tijuanense promoter.
He also said that Estrada has been in the better fights since his confrontation with Roman Gonzalez in 2012, whom he also doubted being the PFP number one fighter in the world. "Estrada has demonstrated and fought against better quality opponents than Roman "Chocolatito" Gonzalez since they fought. We must also keep in mind that Estrada's only fight at Jr Flyweight was against Chocolatito, never again has he given 108 lbs, that's a great advantage Roman had", he assured.
Finally, the man in charge of Zanfer said that there are many platforms in which this fight could take place, especially since it's a rematch that the public has been asking to see. "The people want to see the fight, the people are avidly waiting for it and we are compromised with the public, we are ready for Gonzalez and the day he is ready himself."
Blandon Replies
After being consulted over the recent declarations of Fernando Beltran, Oscar Blandon, manager of Chocolatito Gonzalez had this to say, "I find it weird that Beltran has made those declarations, just recently we had conversations in which he justified that his fighter(Gallo) wasn't ready for this fight. He said Estrada had problems with a wrist."
"He(Beltran) knows we are willing to fight, we know both fighters deserve a good purse, but on our behalf it is no longer an economic matter. We know we will get paid what we want, if anything I think it's "Gallo's" team whom doesn't have faith in him", said Blandon.
Finally, he said that there are great possibilities for Roman to rematch Estrada this year, as well as go after his fourth crown. "Both goals are on foot, both the "Gallo" rematch and going after a fourth belt", said the manager confidently.
:lol1: so Blandon's dumb ass recognized the fact that he knew about Estrada's hand injury in one sentence, he then claims Estrada's team is the one whom aren't confident enough in their fighter the next. Then he rounds up his B.S. By claiming the fight is on foot for later this year and he's confident in getting it made. He also boasts about money no longer being an issue :lol1: . :popcorn:
Blandon is simply calling BS on team Zanfer and co and is clearing up any talk of Gonzalez pricing himself out - He thinks Zanfer made and excuse with an injury that has 'always' been present but now that the conflict on fighters purses has been resolved a new/old issue 'Injury' is an obstacle. Simple.
Las grandes peleas que el mexicano Juan Francisco Estrada ha estado buscando podrían quedar listas para este 2016, y es que su promotor Fernando Beltrán reveló que primero buscarán pactar la pelea con el filipino Donnie Nietes y luego buscarán hacer la pelea contra el nicaragüense Román “Chocolatito” González, a quien acusó de darle la vuelta al ídolo sonorense.
“Vamos a buscar las dos peleas, con Donnie Nietes y luego Román González”, reconoció el presidente de Zanfer. “Román, en todas sus declaraciones, bien o mal le saca la vuelta (a Estrada), que si HBO tiene la última palabra, pide mucho dinero, nosotros lo único que pedimos es que se suba al ring. Es lo único que pedimos, verlo enfrente, no pedimos dinero y absolutamente nada”, indicó el promotor tijuanense.
Dijo, además, que Estrada ha hecho mejores combates tras su enfrentamiento en 2012 que los del nicaragüense, de quien dudó sea el mejor libra por libra del mundo. “Estrada ha demostrado, ha peleado con rivales de mayor calidad que ‘Chocolatito’ González después de su enfrentamiento. Hay que recordar que la única pelea que hizo Estrada en minimosca fue con ‘Chocolatito’, nunca más ha dado 108 libras, eso es una gran ventaja que tuvo Román”, aseguró.
Finalmente, el mandamás de Zanfer refirió que hay muchas plataformas donde esa pelea se puede hacer, pues es una reyerta que el público ha pedido. “La gente quiere ver la pelea, la gente está ávida de esa pelea y estamos comprometidos con el público, y estamos listos para González el día que esté dispuesto”, apuntó.
Responde Blandón
Al ser consultado sobre las recientes declaraciones de Fernando Beltrán, Carlos Blandón, manejador del “Chocolatito”, respondió: “Me extrañan las declaraciones de Beltrán, hace poco teníamos conversaciones y justificó que el ‘Gallo’ no estaba preparado para esta pelea. Dijo que tenía problemas en una muñeca”.
“Él (Beltrán) sabe que nosotros estamos dispuestos a pelear, sabemos que ambos se merecen una buena bolsa, pero de nuestro lado ya no es un tema nada más económico. Sabemos que nos pagarían lo que queremos, más bien creo que es el equipo del 'Gallo' que no confía en él”, aseveró Blandón.
Por último, ambientó que existen grandes posibilidades de que Román enfrente este año a Estrada y posteriormente busque la cuarta corona. “Ambas probabilidades están en pie, pelear contra el 'Gallo' e ir por el cuarto fajón mundial”, confió el manejador.
http://www.elnuevodiario.com.ni/deportes/384903-blandon-creo-que-equipo-gallo-no-confia/
Translation: The big fights that the Mexican Juan Francisco "Gallo" Estrada has been looking for might be ready this 2016, and that's because his promoter Fernando Beltran has revealed his plan to first put together a fight against the Filipino Donnie Nietes and then go after the Nicaraguan, Roman "Chocolatito" Gonzalez, whom they accused of giving the run around to the idol from Sonora.
"We will be looking to make both fights, against Donnie Nietes and then Roman Gonzalez", said the president of Zanfer. "Roman, in all his declarations, for good or bad, has given us the run around. He tells us about HBO having the last word, the high amounts of money he's asking for... All we are asking for is for him to get in the ring. That's the only thing we ask for, to see him in front of us in a ring, we don't ask for the money or nothing else", said Tijuanense promoter.
He also said that Estrada has been in the better fights since his confrontation with Roman Gonzalez in 2012, whom he also doubted being the PFP number one fighter in the world. "Estrada has demonstrated and fought against better quality opponents than Roman "Chocolatito" Gonzalez since they fought. We must also keep in mind that Estrada's only fight at Jr Flyweight was against Chocolatito, never again has he given 108 lbs, that's a great advantage Roman had", he assured.
Finally, the man in charge of Zanfer said that there are many platforms in which this fight could take place, especially since it's a rematch that the public has been asking to see. "The people want to see the fight, the people are avidly waiting for it and we are compromised with the public, we are ready for Gonzalez and the day he is ready himself."
Blandon Replies
After being consulted over the recent declarations of Fernando Beltran, Oscar Blandon, manager of Chocolatito Gonzalez had this to say, "I find it weird that Beltran has made those declarations, just recently we had conversations in which he justified that his fighter(Gallo) wasn't ready for this fight. He said Estrada had problems with a wrist."
"He(Beltran) knows we are willing to fight, we know both fighters deserve a good purse, but on our behalf it is no longer an economic matter. We know we will get paid what we want, if anything I think it's "Gallo's" team whom doesn't have faith in him", said Blandon.
Finally, he said that there are great possibilities for Roman to rematch Estrada this year, as well as go after his fourth crown. "Both goals are on foot, both the "Gallo" rematch and going after a fourth belt", said the manager confidently.
:lol1: so Blandon's dumb ass recognized the fact that he knew about Estrada's hand injury in one sentence, he then claims Estrada's team is the one whom aren't confident enough in their fighter the next. Then he rounds up his B.S. By claiming the fight is on foot for later this year and he's confident in getting it made. He also boasts about money no longer being an issue :lol1: . :popcorn:
gallito has matured alot since then more mature body more solid stronger more confidence a lot of more confidense in his weight in the correct div.hes a different animal in his correct weight class just ask tyson marquez and giovanny segura jeje.
I am not sure if you are joking or not?... Neither Seguro or Marquez are a good measuring stick by any means, This Arroyo could beat those shot to **** grandpas.. ! besides do you think Chocolatito is past it? or out of his prime? chocolatito is On his prime and more dangerous than before that is for sure.:boxing:
gallito has matured alot since then more mature body more solid stronger more confidence a lot of more confidense in his weight in the correct div.hes a different animal in his correct weight class just ask tyson marquez and giovanny segura jeje.
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:rofl: jus messin with ya mano, good points as always.
:lol1: thanks. Crazy how bias people can be on here. I'm surprised they tried to cluster me with the legitimate Roman haters of the forum, especially after I was one of the only posters excited and thrilled over the Gonzalez vs Hernandez rumors. I'm just glad Roman is fighting a significant threat in Arroyo, about damn time too.
I might be an extreme Estrada fanboy, but I try to remain objective in most situations. I might fail in many of my attempts but I am man enough to recognize my incorrect predictions and or mistaken comments. Till then, I stand my ground.