According to Matthew Hatton who fought both fighters he thought Brook hit a lot harder.
He got knocked down by Brook and wobbled at WW which is his natural weight, meanwhile Canelo drags him up to LMW and cant even wobble him
Maybe Khan picking Canelo was an easier choice than Brook after all
I think Canelos power is overrated, he barely shook Cotto and this is a guy who got dropped heavily by small guys like Pacquiao and Ricardo Torres
And Canelo barely won that fight, which means hes really on the same level as Cotto. If Khan fought Cotto at WW or LMW id give Khan a shot so why not with Canelo?
He can hit as hard as King Kong what's the point? All he wants to fight are cab drivers.
The man is irrelevant. Let's stop bringing him up. He's a nobody.
Orly?
I never claimed that Brook has the best resume. However i believe that he would beat anyone at the weight not named Floyd Mayweather.
Anyway if that's the case, why are people claiming that the likes of Deontay Wilder & Luis Ortiz are the best heavyweights in the world? They've not beaten anyone.
It's the eye test my friend.
That's a change of tune. A win against Porter doesn't prove **** unfortunately. We don't hand out "best" labels on hypotheticals.
In boxing, it's about who you beat with the talent and skills.
Basically.
Making it hard to rank the likes of Roy Jones Jr high amongst ATG's
Brook looked like a very solid fighter in the Porter fight, he needs to follow it up. I have no issue ranking him 3rd best behind Pacquiao and Bradley based on his win over undefeated champion Porter, but he has really let it slide. Bradley-Brook makes too much sense after the Pacman fight.
That would be true if Jones' resume wasn't plain outstanding.
In boxing, it's about who you beat with the talent and skills.
Making it hard to rank the likes of Roy Jones Jr high amongst ATG's
Brook looked like a very solid fighter in the Porter fight, he needs to follow it up. I have no issue ranking him 3rd best behind Pacquiao and Bradley based on his win over undefeated champion Porter, but he has really let it slide. Bradley-Brook makes too much sense after the Pacman fight.
Orly?
I never claimed that Brook has the best resume. However i believe that he would beat anyone at the weight not named Floyd Mayweather.
Anyway if that's the case, why are people claiming that the likes of Deontay Wilder & Luis Ortiz are the best heavyweights in the world? They've not beaten anyone.
It's the eye test my friend.
Well you said best welterweight in the world. To me, resume is paramount when making that claim. And I agree regarding those heavyweights, they aren't the best. Doesn't make them right and doesn't make you right.
In boxing, it's about who you beat with the talent and skills.
Orly?
I never claimed that Brook has the best resume. However i believe that he would beat anyone at the weight not named Floyd Mayweather.
Anyway if that's the case, why are people claiming that the likes of Deontay Wilder & Luis Ortiz are the best heavyweights in the world? They've not beaten anyone.
It's the eye test my friend.
i agree with you, canelo is overrated, he is so plodding and flat footed i say this as a fan of both canelo and brook.
let's be honest though khan is going to have to have the fight of his life to survive 12 and even then he'll probably get robbed.
Brook is the best Welterweight in the world. Obviously the fat yanks will pretend not to rate him, but we all know he batters the likes of Thurman and Bradley from pillar to post. Too big, too strong.
Based on what exactly?
Brook is the best Welterweight in the world. Obviously the fat yanks will pretend not to rate him, but we all know he batters the likes of Thurman and Bradley from pillar to post. Too big, too strong.
I'll take Brook over all the other WW's except Bradley. Spence is not ready for Brook. Frustrating watching Brook fight C-level mandatories because Hearn is trying to save him for Khan. He even pulled him out of the Chaves fight. Brook could beat Rios, Thurman, Spence, Garcia, and Khan. Don't know if he could beat Timmy tho. That would make a good fight.
Spence is ready for anyone. Maybe needs one step-up fight against a Guerrero or someone just to get his confidence up for World level, but that's it. He sparred with Mayweather and the word is that he even gave Mayweather a run for his money.
Spence will destroy Brook in December-January when he becomes Brook's next mandatory ...
... but that'll never happen. Did you notice this week how Eddie Hearn has already been talking about moving him up to 154?
They know there's a very good chance that Spence wrecks Brook and it'll be bye-bye Welterweight title & bye-bye Khan payday.
Now they're gonna go up to 154, which allows them to avoid Errol Spence (but without the shame of vacating out of fear).
Once at 154, Brook will have to fight at least two garbage opponents ("he's got to get comfortable to a new weight class" -- lol at that b/c he's a massive WW, probably should be at 154 now)
... and after knocking over a few South American cab drivers and African goat herders at the Motorpoint, they'll play the exact same game -- fight more sh*t and hope Khan offers to fight them at 154 at some point.
If Eddie Hearn had Brook's immediate best in mind, he'd make a deal to get Brook in the ring, IN AMERICA, with one of the top Welterweights. But because Al Haymon or Bob Arum would want options on Brook in the event that he beats one of their big-name fighters, Eddie won't go for it. So Khan will now continue to be both the bane of (AND the purpose of) Kell's entire existence, yet again.
LOOOOOL but thats exactly what khan did, he stalled his entire career and barely fought just so he could run around chasing big fights
yeah after having one of the best resumes out there he slowed down... brook has 1 televised win?
It's problematic using that logic to assess power.. sometimes it can be useful but other times not so much..
Bradley KOd Rios, Pac didn't.. Bradley more power?
Khan dropped Collazo 3 times, Thurman didn't once.. Khan more power?
Marquez KOd Pacquio, but Floyd, Cotto, Margarito, Hatton, Clottey didn't.. Marquez more power?
Postol KOd Matthysse, Garcia didn't.. Postol more power?
Rahman KOd Lewis, Tyson didn't.. Rahman more power?
Mundine RTD Mosley, but Pac, Cotto, De La Hoya, Floyd didn't.. Mundine more power?
Fury stopped Chisora, Vitali didn't.. Fury more power?
etc..etc..
According to Matthew Hatton who fought both fighters he thought Brook hit a lot harder.
He got knocked down by Brook and wobbled at WW which is his natural weight, meanwhile Canelo drags him up to LMW and cant even wobble him
Maybe Khan picking Canelo was an easier choice than Brook after all
I think Canelos power is overrated, he barely shook Cotto and this is a guy who got dropped heavily by small guys like Pacquiao and Ricardo Torres
And Canelo barely won that fight, which means hes really on the same level as Cotto. If Khan fought Cotto at WW or LMW id give Khan a shot so why not with Canelo?
Cotto was on his bycicle all night, the only round he tried to stand his ground and trade with ginger was the 8th, and Cotto got absolutely TRASHED, Cotto got wobbled and close to getting dropped in that round, and he never tried to do it again
Hatton is known for having an un-koable iron chin, a chin that ginger probably softened for Brook, who also failed to stop him
I don't think I've ever heard sanyone say nelo hits particularly hard. He couldn't ko SSM so that speaks volumes. Ssm has also said nelo & Floyd hit about the same hard im sure I didn't imagine that.
I know nelo has the physique and looks the part and hydrates to a large size but he don't hit hard.
Speak volumes? what the **** are you trying to say? SSM has a great chin, never been stopped before Canelo, he's been stopped only once against Mundine at 42yo, and that's because he's totally shot to ****
SSM also forgot to mention that Floyd was using smaller gloves when they fought, and nobody is gonna believe that bs anyway
Sorry but why do we even still talk about kell brook at all
What has he done, why is he relevant?
I get that people kept talking about Andre Ward during his slow period. Andre had some great wins and was a cemented top fighter. People began to speculate.
But Kell Brook is a nobody. He is a marketing job. His whole schtick was that he was going to be to Khan what Groves was to Froch and sell a bazillion tickets for some UK feud match.
Didn't happen. He's a nobody. He's Groves if Froch never glanced at him.
It would be kind of tragic if a year from now Khan finally gives Brook the turd that big paycheck. It just sets an example for other boxers that doing absolutely nothing is more profitable than taking fights.
Yes he has 1 good win. It's like people being obsessed with Ross Puritty. Except Puritty's one win was roughly 100-200 times better.
Piece of crap! Kell Brook I'm gonna take a CRAP in your mouth you overrated POS!
LOOOOOL but thats exactly what khan did, he stalled his entire career and barely fought just so he could run around chasing big fights
I don't think I've ever heard sanyone say nelo hits particularly hard. He couldn't ko SSM so that speaks volumes. Ssm has also said nelo & Floyd hit about the same hard im sure I didn't imagine that.
I know nelo has the physique and looks the part and hydrates to a large size but he don't hit hard.
Well on his Twitter account Sugar Shane Mosley said Canelo hits very hard and that Khan is gonna get his ass beat and get knocked out in the first round.
I don't think I've ever heard sanyone say nelo hits particularly hard. He couldn't ko SSM so that speaks volumes. Ssm has also said nelo & Floyd hit about the same hard im sure I didn't imagine that.
I know nelo has the physique and looks the part and hydrates to a large size but he don't hit hard.