The rematch with Kovalev? And if yes, would he have had a chance to turn things around? It was a championship fight after all, but it ended up looking easier for Sergey than their first meeting.
Last two rounds didn't feel good.
I think some in this thread really wanted to see Pascal die.
I predicted that Kovalev would not go for a "kill", but rather look for a target practice. Which I think it actually happened.
Pascal was just playing possum, he was letting kovalev punch himself out then was gonna come on strong late rounds. Pascal was robbed
#cheatednotdefeated
With your username and moronic beliefs regarding this fight, I suggest you stick to watching wrestling.
i thought it was a horrible stoppage.
it should be up to the fighters whether or not they want to continue. pascal wanted to go out like a G, instead roach was too overtly protective of him.
pascal's worst round was BEFORE the round fight after he quit but roach let him out to continue fighting in that round then when he did better AFTER that round, when roach decided to pull the plug.
i hate these jay nady types who are TOO OVER PROTECTIVE of the boxer.
This is still boxing. A certain amount of physical damage is required.
Some people who are blatant advocates of early stoppages need to watch another sport.
Pascal was still able to defend himself and was still throwing punches. If anything it should have been the referee who should have called the stoppage, not roach.
You are a piece of ****. Watch Champs and realise why what Roach did was a good thing, the fight hadn't even been competitive the last few rounds, what did you want to see?
Pascal didn't WANT to continue, he just had too much pride to quit. It can be a dangerous mentality for a boxer to have.
I think Kovalev would've carried him for 12, brutally beating him to the body.
He really didn't care, he would've killed him.
The ref was just awful.... Pascal threw literally 5 punches in the 5th round and took heavy shots w/o response multiple times in the 5th IIRC.
Ref must've had the over or something
I totally agree, Roach probably saved Pascal from permanent damage. He was shellshocked by the power and would have gotten brutally KO'd after another round or two of punishment.
I think Kovalev would've carried him for 12, brutally beating him to the body.
He really didn't care, he would've killed him or left him with internal bleeding or something.
sergey kovalev killed a guy named roman simakov in '11
http://boxrec.com/media/index.php?title=Human:435365
http://www.boxingscene.com/roman-simakov-passes-away-tragic-knockout-loss--47006
this is the last round of the fight. he took sustained punishment throughout the fight. simakov doesn't go down from big punches, but instead starts to lose his legs after a light combination that didn't even land. he actually wobbles a bit while moving prior to any punches land.
credit to roach for stopping a fighter he hardly knew. that's not easy. training a fighter in the gym is different from working his corner during a championship fight. working a corner is an unappreciated art. you really get an appreciation for it when you watch them go 15 rounds in old fights. he wanted to stop the fight a round sooner. i would have loved to see that. it was sad to see jean pascal, a once durable and dangerous, if flawed fighter, reduced to that. he's done as a top fighter, and that fight did him no favors.
a few more rounds of that, or a brutal knockout to finish things, could have ended his career or worse. in time, if he cares to, he can come back and take easier touches in montreal. they'll still watch him fight.
I totally agree, Roach probably saved Pascal from permanent damage. He was shellshocked by the power and would have gotten brutally KO'd after another round or two of punishment.
I didn't watch the fight either live or in replay.
I imagine it looked like some sort of torture.
Last two rounds didn't feel good.
I think some in this thread really wanted to see Pascal die.
Yet Pascal seemed able to continue. I'm all for protecting a fighter, it's not that. Roach was very early with the warnings, after what round 4?Perhaps it was due to the fact that he was indeed facing Kovalev, and not some other fighter.
You consider Pascal able to continue why, because he was conscious? If the fight had gone on, he would have been a dead man.
Roach also knew that Kovalev was blatantly backing off so the fight wouldn't be stopped
Kovalev wanted to give Pascal long term brain damage
And Pascal wasn't doing sh*t whatsoever, dude had zero left
He didn't want to continue. He opposed the first time Roach wanted to stop the fight, but then the second time he back to his corner after Roach gave him a chance, he knew it was over and he didn't say a word. So no, you can't send a fighter out there to fight if he doesn't want to, he could end up getting injured or have his career or life ended.
Good stoppage, I thought Pascal had no chance to make a comeback anyways.
I know this is boxing and anything could have happened, but even if Pascal pulled off a miracle somehow, he would have took even more damage in the process.
The rematch with Kovalev? And if yes, would he have had a chance to turn things around? It was a championship fight after all, but it ended up looking easier for Sergey than their first meeting.
Naw dude, if anything the fight should have been stopped way earlier. Roach gave two many extra minutes where serious damage could have happened.
I don't remember what round, but there was a round where Pascal didn't throw anything.
that he's not been around pascal enough to know what it looks like when he's badly hurt or completely exhausted, how his dimeanor looks, etc, is hugely important. he'd never worked a corner for pascal in his life. just because you don't understand what goes on in a fighter's corner doesn't mean it's a weak argument :lol1:
Well he didn't look badly hurt, that was my point. And he didn't quit. But I like the fact that there were no complaints after from Pascal, and that he showed respect. Roach was very quick with the warnings after a few rounds only, which appeared a little befuddling.