Every forum website seems to be split on GGG fans and hater. I'm neither but I don't get why people seems to want him to fail or not give him any credit for what he is which is the first or second best MW boxer. It's not like he's a big ass or showboat a lot. He seems respectful and always trying to give the fans a good show.
People always bring up Ward, forget ward already. He might ducked him and if he did, so what. Its in the past and people can't seem to move past it. He fights two weight division above him now so I don't get why people still have a problem with it. Its like asking why Mayweather ducked GGG or Ward ducking Vlad.
People keep saying he ducked Lara. You guys honestly want to see that fight? Me personally I don't want to see GGG fight anyone smaller then him cause IMO smaller guys have no chance against him. He might outbox him and stay alive for 12 rounds but I doubt that because he's real good at cutting off the ring. Look what's he doing to guys 20-30 lbs heavier then Lara, imagine when he touch Lara once.
He's only gonna get some credit from some of you guys if he beat Canelo, but he doesn't want to fight him yet. And when hes trying to make that fight you guys side with Canelo because GGG wants to fight at the weight limit Canelo have the belt at really? You guys can't complain about GGG trying to make a catchweight with Ward at 164 and then complain about GGG doesn't want to go down to 155.
People say he should move to 168. Is there better fighters at 168 then 160 because I'm thinking it's not much better opponents besides Ward who's fighting at 175 now.
haters are you deaf? How many times GGG should say that his focus right now is on unification of the MW belts! So forget about 154-168 statement, ok? Listen to what boss says more carefully. He will eventually come rise to save the 168 weight class.
It's crazy and the GGG hate sounds really sad and jealous.
He's in a position with many idiots on this site that no matter what he does they will never give him credit.
By all accounts, he is a good dude that treats all of the young fighters at Abel's gym like his little brothers whether they are Mexican, black, Russian, etc.
He is supremely skilled, talented, and aggressive.
I swear some people don't actually like the sport, because if they did, there is no way they wouldn't love watching Golovkin.
Those are Floydturd fans pay no attention
Yeah, very true.
Successful bands/ musicians are much more hated than those that aren't successful.
The sure sign of a successful human is a large amount of hate being directed their way. You're not successful until you're hated.
This is somewhat true but it doesn't go for everything. Canelo have a huge following and way more popular then GGG and I haven't seen the backlash at all with him. I don't think its a race issue too. Roy Jones Jr was pretty much widely accepted.
Anyone that goes long periods winning all their matches easily will be hated or disliked. That goes for anyone in any sport. Floyd Mayweather, The New England Patriots, Anderson Silva, Wladimir Klitschko, Prime Kobe-era Lakers, Pacquiao, Serena Williams etc.
Theyll pick something to complain about; level of competition, fighting style, alleged cheating, whatever. Fans do not like one person/team constantly winning in a noncompetitive fashion. And that statement is backed up by hard data in sports statistics; if you win every game of the season, your franchise will make less money than you would have had you won very often but still lost enough games to keep it interesting.
Yeah, very true.
Successful bands/ musicians are much more hated than those that aren't successful.
The sure sign of a successful human is a large amount of hate being directed their way. You're not successful until you're hated.
Anyone that goes long periods winning all their matches easily will be hated or disliked. That goes for anyone in any sport. Floyd Mayweather, The New England Patriots, Anderson Silva, Wladimir Klitschko, Prime Kobe-era Lakers, Pacquiao, Serena Williams etc.
Theyll pick something to complain about; level of competition, fighting style, alleged cheating, whatever. Fans do not like one person/team constantly winning in a noncompetitive fashion. And that statement is backed up by hard data in sports statistics; if you win every game of the season, your franchise will make less money than you would have had you won very often but still lost enough games to keep it interesting.
Golovkin is going up against 3 of the major fanbases in the Mexicans, Puerto Ricans and African-Americans.
All three stars are viewed as having avoided him, so naturally he generates resentment.
When people would rather drop titles than face you, it's hard to get all of the best names on your resume. If the best fight for a guy is a guy that is two divisions bigger than he is, then you know the threat is real and people will reach at anything to see that threat extinguished.
Youre sugar coating it , the only real fight is Ward and it was 1 division not 2 and GGG declared he would fight any one in that division , he has ducked the fight with the only elite to challenge him and its not a good look .
The big names at MW are a bunch of b grade fighters so the quality of GGG resume is very weak for all the atg praise he gets , you are only as good as who you beat .
I really like GGG but the truth is he has beat nobody close to an elite fighter and ducked the only true elite within touch and time is running out he is mid 30s , other than that he has the potential to be something really special , but he is untested not because he is so good but because the opponents are not very good .
Ward is a genuine high risk fight and its obvious GGG doesnt want to engage in that and thats my only gripe with him .
He developed his reputation by claiming that he is willing to fight anybody from 154 to 168 while destroying bums. Once top-notch boxers called his bluff, he exposed himself as a coward by demanding catchweights. He is a diva and a coward.
See this is hate...
When people would rather drop titles than face you, it's hard to get all of the best names on your resume. If the best fight for a guy is a guy that is two divisions bigger than he is, then you know the threat is real and people will reach at anything to see that threat extinguished.
34 years old and Rosado is among his best wins. There is a racial element to Golovkin. Imagine a 34 year old Black fighter like Golovkin he would be hated. Floyd Mayweather has fought in 5 divisions and people call him a coward so what is Golovkin if he's scared of 2 divisions.
^^^this
You look how Gennady Golovkin is pushed, and then compare that to how Peter Quillin was pushed (before getting KO'd). Golovkin's HBO run began only a few months after Quillin's fight with "Winky" Wright (the last fight before he basically stepped to world level).
Golovkin gets hailed as one of the best middleweight fighters ever, Quillin gets derided as a bum, yet Peter Quillin's fight resume over the stretch is arguably better than Golovkin's (N'Dam/Guerrero/Rosado/Lee/Jacobs vs Lemieux/Murray/Geale... Rosado/Macklin)
I think it's also obviously the years of hype this guy has gotten, being right up high on the P4P list, never-ending praise, talk of weight jumping without following up on those promises etc.
But, the guy has the worst double standard fans in all of boxing currently. I love watching him fight, but his most ardent fans are really ****ing cuntish frankly. He's been a champion for six years with 14 or 15 title defenses, a pro for ten years and he's only fought three champions all up in that entire ten year period. That is beyond hilarious considering how much his fans slag on other boxers. Only one of those champions was a current champion too.
Floyd being the obvious choice they rag on most as some kind of coward that never fought anyone, avoided all challenges and has a **** resume full of bums. After ten years, they both had the same amount of fights, but Floyd had already fought in five divisions, was lineal champion in two divisions and had already beaten twelve champions, including five or six current champions including P4P level guys. That's nine more champions beaten over five divisions in the same amount of fights and the same amount of time...and his fans wonder why boxing fans tell them to shut the **** up for once when they start spouting their coward, no challenges, nonsense around the place.
Three champions out of 35 pro fights over ten years.
Kassim Ouma
Daniel Geale
David Lemieux
Compared to twelve champions, five of them current (arguably three HOFers), two lineal titles over five divisions also out of 35 pro fights over ten years.
Genaro Hernandez
Carlos Hernandez
Angel Manfredy
Jose Luis Castillo
Diego Corrales
Gregorio Vargas
Jesus Chavez
Demarcus Corley
Zac Judah
Sharmba Mitchell
Carlos Baldomir
Arturo Gatti
The bolded were the current champs when they fought.
His resume is so poor compared to Floyd's 27(21KO's)-0 at Super Featherweight, that Floyd could give Golovkin his 130 resume/accomplishments and he would still be the greater fighter by a mile. That says a lot when a fighter can hypothetically give you half of his career, and your career still ain't sh*t compared to his. And this is the guy that GGG fans liked to accuse of all the things you said, for years upon years. I mean let's take it easy, start from Baldomir+, Golovkin's resume still looks like crap compared to Floyd's.
Golovkin's been a professional fighter for a decade, and is still an unknown quantity
Every forum website seems to be split on GGG fans and hater. I'm neither but I don't get why people seems to want him to fail or not give him any credit for what he is which is the first or second best MW boxer. It's not like he's a big ass or showboat a lot. He seems respectful and always trying to give the fans a good show.
People always bring up Ward, forget ward already. He might ducked him and if he did, so what. Its in the past and people can't seem to move past it. He fights two weight division above him now so I don't get why people still have a problem with it. Its like asking why Mayweather ducked GGG or Ward ducking Vlad.
People keep saying he ducked Lara. You guys honestly want to see that fight? Me personally I don't want to see GGG fight anyone smaller then him cause IMO smaller guys have no chance against him. He might outbox him and stay alive for 12 rounds but I doubt that because he's real good at cutting off the ring. Look what's he doing to guys 20-30 lbs heavier then Lara, imagine when he touch Lara once.
He's only gonna get some credit from some of you guys if he beat Canelo, but he doesn't want to fight him yet. And when hes trying to make that fight you guys side with Canelo because GGG wants to fight at the weight limit Canelo have the belt at really? You guys can't complain about GGG trying to make a catchweight with Ward at 164 and then complain about GGG doesn't want to go down to 155.
People say he should move to 168. Is there better fighters at 168 then 160 because I'm thinking it's not much better opponents besides Ward who's fighting at 175 now.
Comparatively, two years into his pro career, most people had a pretty good idea how special Floyd Mayweather was (even though Ward took longer than most, by about Yr 5, as a professional, you knew how special Andre Ward was).
No one is calling for Golovkin to fight Lara because it's going to be some great fight; people are calling for Lara, and calling Team Golovkin for ducking, because they've seen Lara in with enough top-flight opposition to understand that Lara has proven himself to be a good fighter, If Golovkin saws through Lara, as you seem to hope, he'd actually have a proven quality fighter on his resume. You add that the other fighter you seem to argue would validate Golovkin ('Canelo') fights at about the same weight as Alvarez does, and there's no reason to not fight Lara.
Beyond that, the only reason people are arguing for Golovkin to go up in weight is that he'd be facing bigger guys, likely more able to handle his power, giving fans the possible chance to see what tools he can bring forward when his opponent doesn't just fold up. No different than what the UFC ended up doing with Anderson Silva (Silva won the MW title, cleared out the top contenders at the weight, and ended up taking fights at LHW, while the UFC worked to establish fresh challengers). Golovkin doesn't have one-punch power at 160lbs; how is his power going to affect a super middleweight, likely cutting down from 175-185lbs to make 168?
They're like a religion.
Kill all non-believers. They don't like the fact that he has critics. I mean all fighters have critics. He's a top 10 P4P fighter and many people question how is that possible. We know how Mayweather and Pacquiao got there, by first beating Corrales and Barrera, two top 5 P4P fighters of the time. But how did GGG get there? He was just placed there based on hype and his fans.
I think it's also obviously the years of hype this guy has gotten, being right up high on the P4P list, never-ending praise, talk of weight jumping without following up on those promises etc.
But, the guy has the worst double standard fans in all of boxing currently. I love watching him fight, but his most ardent fans are really ****ing cuntish frankly. He's been a champion for six years with 14 or 15 title defenses, a pro for ten years and he's only fought three champions all up in that entire ten year period. That is beyond hilarious considering how much his fans slag on other boxers. Only one of those champions was a current champion too.
Floyd being the obvious choice they rag on most as some kind of coward that never fought anyone, avoided all challenges and has a **** resume full of bums. After ten years, they both had the same amount of fights, but Floyd had already fought in five divisions, was lineal champion in two divisions and had already beaten twelve champions, including five or six current champions including P4P level guys. That's nine more champions beaten over five divisions in the same amount of fights and the same amount of time...and his fans wonder why boxing fans tell them to shut the **** up for once when they start spouting their coward, no challenges, nonsense around the place.
Three champions out of 35 pro fights over ten years.
Kassim Ouma
Daniel Geale
David Lemieux
Compared to twelve champions, five of them current (arguably three HOFers), two lineal titles over five divisions also out of 35 pro fights over ten years.
Genaro Hernandez
Carlos Hernandez
Angel Manfredy
Jose Luis Castillo
Diego Corrales
Gregorio Vargas
Jesus Chavez
Demarcus Corley
Zac Judah
Sharmba Mitchell
Carlos Baldomir
Arturo Gatti
The bolded were the current champs when they fought.