Is Sergio Martinez hall of fame worthy?

He won several minor belts at 147......WBC Latino was one of them. It's not a major title I guess but he was still winning whatever "title" fights he could get at that time. Those minor belts don't count as world titles and he got those and not world titles because at that time he was considered nothing but a journey man type fighter. No doubt at his peak he was on of the best in the sport. Problem is he didn't reach that level till his late 30's. And when he did age and knee injuries cut it short. I can't vote somebody in hall of fame when he fought 56 fights. And for the first 40-45 of them he was NEVER a top 10 ranked fighter at any of the weights he fought in and no significant wins. He didn't start fighting world class fighters till what 2009? Yet turned pro in 1997. For example in 2005 he was 30 years old, but from 2005-2008 his opponents HAD more losses then wins BY A LOT. He fought a guy with 33 losses, a guy with 24 losses and a guy with 23 losses, and 2 more guys with 10 or more losses during that 3 year stretch which were his early 30's! So you really talking about 2009 and on when he was fighting world class fighters and he only fought about 9-10 fights during that stretch. GREAT stretch no doubt but I can't put nobody in the HOF based on 10 fights when the previous 40 something fights were low level fights against cab drivers and a loss to a young Margarito. And I hate the argument well Gatti got in so he should be in. By that logic then EVERYBODY should be in. That's stupid, Gatti got in for a reason that had nothing to do with his resume and wins and loses. And there is a strong argument whether that should even of happened. Gatti is the outlier and should never be the standard for what a HOF career looks like.

No. Great fighter at his peak. Problem is he was a late bloomer and wasn't elite for long enough.

Who he beat?? Paul Williams - a guy that many said that Mayweather, Pacquiao avoided when he was at 147. Julio Chavez Jr - before he was exposed as being less talented than we believed, and while he was UNDEFEATED!!! Kelly Pavlik - a good solid, MW, Lineal MW champ when Martinez beat him.

Without a doubt. Definitely one of the top 10-15 greatest MWs of all time. No one could f with Martinez from 2009 - 2013.

You're counting a win against pavlik and Chavez good wins? Paul Williams was a decent win but come on. Paul Williams had already gotten out boxed by Carlos Quintana for 12 rounds. Pavlik was a drunk and couldn't stay away from the bar scene and probably came in to the fight hung over. And don't get me started on Chavez. I don't think he even trained and came in to the fight high as a kite and still almost knocked Martinez out in the 12th? Name a good fighter that Martinez beat. You can't. The fact you call Paul Williams a bum, tells me all I need to know about you and your boxing IQ. No need to agrue with stupidity. Williams was a monster, Pavlik was the next big "White" Hope and did posses good skills. Chavez although not a dedicated individual he was a physical beast at middleweight. His defenses are far from great but not as sad as Golovkin but people also saw Sergio get screwed by the governing bodies; which others get away with.

No... But he is worthy over other fighters who have got in. His wins over Pavlik, Chavez and Williams are great wins against good opposition considering he was the much smaller man in all 3 fights. His reign was very short but considering his short Amatuer career and injuries; Sergio Marteniz made what was given to him, applied it to boxing late and did great things. Sergio remains one of my favorite of the time he was around. I still believe a healthy Sergio would put a beating on Cotto. You're counting a win against pavlik and Chavez good wins? Paul Williams was a decent win but come on. Paul Williams had already gotten out boxed by Carlos Quintana for 12 rounds. Pavlik was a drunk and couldn't stay away from the bar scene and probably came in to the fight hung over. And don't get me started on Chavez. I don't think he even trained and came in to the fight high as a kite and still almost knocked Martinez out in the 12th? Name a good fighter that Martinez beat. You can't.

Fvck no. Look at his resume. Who did he beat? Paul Williams? Lol dude was a bum. And Paul Williams already beat him once. Kelly pavlik? Lmfao. Sergio Martinez was an over hyped bum who got his azz handed to him by a non plaster margarito.

Already been said. By the current HOF standard, he is a shoo-in. As far as an ATG standard, he falls just short.

Right, and that first one was paper: won interim belt vs Bunema, defended via "draw" vs Cintron, got promoted to full champ, moved up before defending once Not his fault Vernon died!? Lol. Jesus They were supposed to fight. Nobody wanted to fight Sergio at 154 anyhow. Name a good 154 pounder who was willing to fight P Will, Pavlik (on short notice) , and Jcc Jr. P Will and Sergio were the only ones with the balls to face one another. Pavlik and JCC Jr are nightmare scenarios for anyone (especially the thought of going up as an average sized 154 lber) they were so massive at 160 it was honestly ridiculous. We couldnt even get Cotto to fight past 158 and Canelo aint leaving 155 despite looking like a tank. GGG wouldn't dare move up to 168 for Ward (not that I agree he should have) but that's exactly what Sergio did. Pavlik was legitimately a very good fighter and Jcc Jr was hilariously oversized at 160 that no one outside of Sergio (maybe Pirog and GGG?) were going to beat him at 160. And even then without movement any 160 pounder was going to have a nightmare matchup with dinero de vaca. Dude was like 185+ pounds on fight night. Man...I just took a step back to laugh at that. 185+ pounds... :/... Damn. Last size discrepency I saw that was hilarious was probably Gamboa vs Crawford. And maybe a bunch of those Broner fights too.

Right, and that first one was paper: won interim belt vs Bunema, defended via "draw" vs Cintron, got promoted to full champ, moved up before defending once Yup...:dance:

Absolutely. As it is, he had a very good run, three division champ. Had he had the opportunity to enter boxing at a younger age, he would have been the one to completely unify 160. I'd pick a prime Martinez to beat GGG; a Martinez that could have been a pro for 5 years at the age of 23 with an extensive amateur career/record. That kind of Martinez I think would be one of the greatest boxers most would have ever seen live. Couldnt agree more. People forget how talented this guy was. If he was brought on and taken more seriously at a younger age he woulda been more relevant and not had such a late run. That Margarito loss set him back for life it seemed. A prime Maravilla vs GGG today is a fight for the ages.

I think he was a two division champ, matter.? Right, and that first one was paper: won interim belt vs Bunema, defended via "draw" vs Cintron, got promoted to full champ, moved up before defending once

I have to echo what has already been said. He falls a little short normally, but the way the HOF is, if you're basing it on Gattie ect, then..yes. I loved watching Martinez fight. Really liked his style. His performances/fights against Williams, Pavlik and Chavez were really enjoyable IMO. Gatti scored big on "fame", Sergio not so much. Like 4 Fotys for Gatti.

I think he was a hall of fame talent who perservered through all the bad in boxing (decisions, politics, etc). In a sense, he had an extremely satisfying career to follow as a fan because he earned it the hard way. He fought in a division (not his own) where he was outsized every fight due to fighting in this age where the best don't necessarily want to fight the best. He was a top 5 p4p fighter who had to constantly prove himself to everyone and was disrespected as a fighter and champion. His "reign" was short and under normal circumstances I'd maybe lean towards his career not being long enough at the top level but as we're coming into this age of GGG and/or Canelo you can start to see his quality. He's the best middleweight champ we've seen in a long time if you really think about it. It's been YEARS already and as we reflect back, there are a lot of undeserving men who've held the titles but we can all be in agreement he was not one of them. He was without a shadow of a doubt the one who held the torch and he did it with heart, class and avoided no one. Short as it may have been, I think that speaks volumes of a fighter in this age, in one of the most storied divisions ever. If Gatti can get in then why shouldn't one of the guys who if you made a timeline of 160, he'd take up a small chunk of it as being the undisputed king of it? Guys like Quillin, Lee, BJS, Lemiux, etc are what the average belt holder looks like. Let that sink in. If they're champions, guys like Martinez could only be called "super" champions if we judge by quality. There wasn't a single soul brave enough to come up to 154 while he was lurking...as soon as he left, even Pacquiao manned up. None of the 154 guys dared challenge him at 160 either. I remember watching Roach as he helplessly told the cameras mid fight that Sergio was just too damn fast, he could do nothing but watch his gigantic JCC Jr fight a real talent. Like someone said, the way the HOF is he deserves it with flying colors. The way it should be? I'm not so sure. Unlike Gatti (no disrespect to Gatti, I was a huge fan) he didn't leave his mark in boxing for being just an exciting fighter but for his actual quality. Very very true. Maravilla was a legitimate champion unlike all those guys, and there are many "beltholders" in boxing today. Martinez is a HOF'er.

Absolutely. As it is, he had a very good run, three division champ. Had he had the opportunity to enter boxing at a younger age, he would have been the one to completely unify 160. I'd pick a prime Martinez to beat GGG; a Martinez that could have been a pro for 5 years at the age of 23 with an extensive amateur career/record. That kind of Martinez I think would be one of the greatest boxers most would have ever seen live. ?????????? 3 division?

Not really, but he'll get in.

Not an atg, but 20 years from now, his name will be one of the more attractive on the ballot..

Yes, for the Hall of Fame as it is. No, for the Hall of Fame as it should be. ^^^this was perfect

One of my favorite fighters, but him taking up boxing late caused him to peak late. Because of this he doesnt have a resume worthy of the HOF

I think he was a two division champ, matter.? He won several minor belts at 147......WBC Latino was one of them. It's not a major title I guess but he was still winning whatever "title" fights he could get at that time.