There's no excuse NOT to have Danny Garcia in your top 7 P4P at this time...

Yeah OK, I'm sure this has nothing to do with the fact that you're a Maidana fan who also happens to be a Matthysse fan, who Danny embarrassed and dropped. Just because the color of your flag is blue, white and yellow doesn't mean you need to be salty. Garcia beat Matthysse up when he was the boogeyman and #2 in his division (#1 was Danny). He beat Guerrero handily and Peterson ran the entire fight. No, I don't like Matthysse. I was actually rooting for Garcia when they fought and was very happy that he get the win. Does not change the fact that without a KD, Matthysse wins the fight. So Garcia was 1 punch away from losing. As close as you can get. Peterson ran for the first 6 rounds, then he gave Danny hell.

115-111, 114-112 and 114-112 is close. LOL http://thaboxingvoice.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/Danny-Garcia-Bruises-e1429221657243-210x140.jpg Being Top 10 in the world means you are ABOVE everyone else. Top NBA player will destroy players from lower leagues. Top chess player will crush regular player. They will clearly show they are ABOVE. Garcia has shown in recent years that he is NOT ABOVE anything. Yeah OK, I'm sure this has nothing to do with the fact that you're a Maidana fan who also happens to be a Matthysse fan, who Danny embarrassed and dropped. Just because the color of your flag is blue, white and yellow doesn't mean you need to be salty. Garcia beat Matthysse up when he was the boogeyman and #2 in his division (#1 was Danny). He beat Guerrero handily and Peterson ran the entire fight.

The Matthysse and Guerrero fights weren't close. 115-111, 114-112 and 114-112 is close. Peterson didn't do anything either. LOL http://thaboxingvoice.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/Danny-Garcia-Bruises-e1429221657243-210x140.jpg Being Top 10 in the world means you are ABOVE everyone else. Top NBA player will destroy players from lower leagues. Top chess player will crush regular player. They will clearly show they are ABOVE. Garcia has shown in recent years that he is NOT ABOVE anything.

Remember when Sergio Martinez was p4p top 3 for tough fights with Darren Barker and Matthew Macklin? Funny how destroying those fighters isn't p4p worthy at all now. having martinez p4p #3 was the biggest sham this sport has ever seen. Let's take a look at his most notable wins that are definitely cringe worthy. His biggest win was paul williams. Paul Williams had already beaten Martinez. And i hate to say it but PW was a bit overrated as well. Don't get me wrong, he was good but not as good as his title "the most feared man in boxing". People avoided him because he was a high risk low reward. He had no fanbase. He was not feared. He got outboxed by Carlos Quintana for 12 rounds. Got a gift decision against Lara and was getting outboxed by Kermit Cintron before he jumped out the ring. Go watch the Cintron fight again if you don't believe me. Cintron was outboxing his azz i have no idea why the fvck he jumped out the ring. I guess it's a puerto rican thing. Just because he had that aura of him "willing to fight anyone at any weight" doesn't mean paul williams was great. If you take a look and PW resume, it leaves a lot to be desired. And i'm sorry to say this, but a lot of people rate him high because of his accident and because he was a warrior in the ring. Don't get me wrong, i'm a big PW fan but i'm telling it how it is with the TRUTH. Kelly pavlik? LMFAO the drunken, bar fighting thug who came into the Martinez fight hung over? LOL Chavez Jr.? holy shlt LMAO. the undedicated weed smoking pot head who didn't train at all for the Martinez fight and also came into the fight high and still almost knocked Martinez the fvck out in the 12th round? I still don't get how martinez could be ranked p4p #3

P4P? Garcia does not have a clear good win for years... Close fight with Matthysse, close fight with Herrera, close fight with Peterson, close fight with Guerrero. How on earth can we talk about being in P4P list, when fighter fails convincingly beat any of his ranked opponents? It proves that he is about the same level. The Matthysse and Guerrero fights weren't close. Stop lying. Peterson didn't do anything either.

P4P? Garcia does not have a clear good win for years... Close fight with Matthysse, close fight with Herrera, close fight with Peterson, close fight with Guerrero. How on earth can we talk about being in P4P list, when fighter fails convincingly beat any of his ranked opponents? It proves that he is about the same level.

Lol yeah I did a double take when I saw his post. Nobody ranked Martinez for those guys, it was what he had done in establishing him as the man in the division -- moving up to defeat elite fighters. The GGG wagon is getting desperate. I feel you on that.

It had a little something to do with wins over Paul Williams and Pavlik, combined with the fact that he'd moved up a division. Lol yeah I did a double take when I saw his post. Nobody ranked Martinez for those guys, it was what he had done in establishing him as the man in the division -- moving up to defeat elite fighters. The GGG wagon is getting desperate.

One excuse: I never had any PPV, I do it the other way around.

He's #5 on mine...

Yea and no....1 robbery, 1 gift, and 1 legal assault ( Salka) dont look to good. But other than that he has one of the best resumes. It was crazy how he wasnt on P4P list after Lucas/Khan wins.

Remember when Sergio Martinez was p4p top 3 for tough fights with Darren Barker and Matthew Macklin? Funny how destroying those fighters isn't p4p worthy at all now. It had a little something to do with wins over Paul Williams and Pavlik, combined with the fact that he'd moved up a division.

Remember when Sergio Martinez was p4p top 3 for tough fights with Darren Barker and Matthew Macklin? Funny how destroying those fighters isn't p4p worthy at all now.

Danny Gift Garcia? If he beats Thurman and Brook i gladly put him up there. But not for getting gift decisions against Herrera and Peterson. better resume than golovkin by a country mile. Deal with it oh wait i forgot, knocking out cans>> never having a close fight with world champions lolol, my bad

"A win is a win" argument does not hold that much water in p4p discussion as it is in say fight purse negotiation. How a fighter won also factors in.

I have him near my top 10, definetly top 15. Danny is mad underrated, simply because he isn't flashy doesn't mean the kid isn't talented.

you just proved my point :lol1: You had no point imo

Exactly. It's actually quite simple. 1 jab does not = 1 power punch www.GoFundHerrera.com Lets raise money to send herrera a "Jab-Champion of the world," belt.

He doesn't beat the top guys at 147. Doesn't even beat the top guys at 147 in PBC.

Danny Gift Garcia? If he beats Thurman and Brook i gladly put him up there. But not for getting gift decisions against Herrera and Peterson.