guerrero overlooked martinez or shot?

im going with guerrero overlooked martinez. hes not shot. and thats why im favoring guerrero to win vs garcia Martinez maybe better than expected but at the same time I think Thurman cracked that chin which Im sure was a confidence breaker. Guerrero ruined himself with inactivity, had Guerrero been more active, I think he wouldve held his own better against Thurman. Activity at this point in his career gets him into tuff fights with the Aron Martinezs of boxing and could possibly get him KO'd by the Danny Garcias of boxing. Guerrero does have a shot though and had this fight been made pre-Thurman Id bet on Guerrero because Garcia cant slip a straight left if his life depended on it and goes straight back when pressured. At this point, Guerrero needs to BOX the fight of his life not just brawl.

The ghost just didn't have any answer to Martinez's excessive clinching. That's what happens when the ref works in tandem with clinchers, intentionally or not. It sets a huge advantage to the clincher.

Always overrated.

I think he is shot however I also think there is a reason for his rapid decline. After the Mayweather fight Guerrero was was strapped with legal problems and didn't fight for a good year. I also think he didn't do much in terms of training in that time because he couldn't fight, probably didn't train, and was stressed over his legal issues. I wouldn't be surprised if the guy was drinking during this time either. You add in age and you get a rapidly deteriorating fighter.

Don't think he is shot. He probably over looked Martinez, he was a 40 to 1 favorite, probably thought his people gave him a easy fight. Also the Thurman fight was 3 month prior, not enough time to fully recover, let alone train on top of it. If he was shot, either Thurman or Martinez would have been able to finish the much smaller fighter, both had him hurt, Robert fought back like Gatti did. He has a shot in this fight, but will have to get a KO or completely dominate, we know Danny gets the benefit of the doubt on the cards. Danny by decision, seems most likely. Fight could have some good action.

His cousin who he was close with also died like a week before the fight. But maybe Martinez is better than his record. He did beat devon That's what I was thinking , add in a bit of underestimating Martinez who's was probably hungry as hell I don't think Guerrero is shot to bits like most on here seem to beleive.

didnt he test positive for something?? Ya, including the fight he got knocked out in. My point is more just about overall skill level. I find guys from the early 2000's and before to just be better fighters overall which is why they're still hanging around past the mid 30's and can challenge these new guys.

I think he was never that good to begin with, add age to that and you see what he is now. He still has a chance because the quality of fighters nowadays is really poor which is why a corpse like morales could hang with Danny and chino. didnt he test positive for something??

His cousin who he was close with also died like a week before the fight. But maybe Martinez is better than his record. He did beat devon

I think he was never that good to begin with, add age to that and you see what he is now. He still has a chance because the quality of fighters nowadays is really poor which is why a corpse like morales could hang with Danny and chino.