The tarver kayo had me in disbelief, after the Johnson ko and watching him just lay on the ropes and get pounded really affected me as a boxing fan.
I was coming home to visit the weekend from college and my mom and step dad was like your boy Roy is fighting tonight.
I was thinking he was gonna UD Johnson easy but I realized Jones lost what made him great.
He lost his unshakable self belief and fearlessness of punching with opponents and countering.
It was like the Ali fans watching Holmes pound on Ali for me....I saw the fight live and Im man enough to admit I thought Jones was seriously hurt and shed a tear
Boxing is a little more intimate than Basketball, Soccer etc....you play those sports, you don't play boxing and it hurt watching my childhood hero take the pounding he did from the first TARVER FIGHT-Johnson fight
I realized boxing wasn't rock em sock em robots and that these fighters have family and friends and not just fans and can be seriously hurt
I realized no fighter is impervious to father time and going up and down the weight scale
I became a boxing fan in the late 80s, early 90s watching Sweet Pea Whitaker, Hagler and Sugar Ray Leonard
Roy Jones made me a full fledge die hard fan with his combination of speed, power, swag and elusiveness. Ive never seen a fighter blessed with it all and to this day he is still the greatest boxer who ever lived. Yes I said it and I seriously doubt there are more than 10 fighters in history that would be even money or favored over a prime Roy Jones from 154-175
I feelo honored to have seen him at his best and his downfall broke my heart, it was the end of an era and my youth....when he lost to Tarver and Johnson, I was 19 years old and I started training in the sport to pay homage to my favorite boxer of all time
The greatest of all time.....Roy Levesta Jones Jr.
When Salvador Sanchez died in a car accident.
Never worshipped any man again
Ruelas vs Garcia
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nMfKXxDklcE
Garcia was beaten to death in the ring, and I hated the ref for letting it go on.
The Abduslamov fight also, because dude took a frightful beating and the treatment he got after that fight. Plus I just recall comments I made during the fight and they weren't that bad but it feels bad to have been cracking any kind of wise remarks in light of that happening.
Those guys did live on but were/will never be the same and to me that is probably even worse than the quick end.
Yes. I remember having a lot mixed of feelings during that fight. Feeling that THIS is what makes boxing great. Two guys denying their physical and mental limits in an effort to overcome. But, toward the end, I started to get an ugly sentiment I always feel when I see someone's cranium get thumped too many times (Wilder/Stiverne for example). I've followed the news on Abduslamov since the fight and it's just such a tragic series of events. Really changed how I view stoppages and the "warrior" mentality in general. Hard to relish a fight that goes on too long when you know some kid might grow up with a vegetable for a father as the consequence.
February 10, 1990 - The Fall Of The Titan
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Tyson vs. Douglas was the fight that really pushed me to the edge. I like so many fight fans was absolutely caught up in the euphoria of "Tyson mania," and the idea that Mike was literally the baddest man of the planet. And who could disagree? As he was dismantling almost everyone they put in front of him like an iron worker scrap metal. Guys were quaking in their socks just looking at "Kid dynamite" across the ring from them. His finishing skills were pitiless and his body shots were delivered with gruesome efficiency. He was for a time, a juggernaut with the forward momentum of a hurricane.
But like the fabled Kingdom called Camelot, he shone so brightly for a brief time before the fall. I watched the fight with my bro, who I usually never missed a fight with. We were in our usual stations, in front of the television set frozen with excitement, wondering how Tyson was going to knock that upstart Douglas out. Well it became pretty apparent fast that Douglas was unlike any competitor Mike had faced, in that a perfect storm had finally culminated. An un-serious Tyson ran squarely into a hungry and very well prepared James "Buster" Douglas. Had Tyson been in peak form he would've had his hands full but on that night his hands were not only full they were overflowing.
When the 10th round came my brother and I were so speechless all we could keep repeating was, "I can't believe this is happening, what's wrong with Tyson? Something has to be wrong?" It was as if our senses were struggling to convince us of the inevitable and the absolute obvious. Mike was no god, he wasn't unbeatable, and most of all he was not made of iron. His loss bother me for months, and for months I struggled to understand how such a gifted prizefighter could let it all slip away. But as all of us witnessed in the months and years that followed, in some ways, the crown never quite fit on Mike's head.
Damn rough night though....
Delvin Rodriguez-Oscar Diaz on ESPN.
The ending of that fight, and the sounds Diaz made are the most haunting thing I remember, I will never forget that.
The Abduslamov fight also, because dude took a frightful beating and the treatment he got after that fight. Plus I just recall comments I made during the fight and they weren't that bad but it feels bad to have been cracking any kind of wise remarks in light of that happening.
Those guys did live on but were/will never be the same and to me that is probably even worse than the quick end.
there's a lot so i'll just say what I can think of right now:
The death of Leveander Johnson: I can still hear Lampley giving updates about his condition during the PPV.
Paul Williams' accident: totally gutted about that news, but I'm glad he lived. His demeanor and positivity helped me accept the whole thing - and it reminded me of why I was a fan of his in the first place. Still miss him though.
wins/losses:
Chavez - Whitaker - same as Bram's post basically. I was like 12 - i didn't really know how to score at the time but I knew something was wrong with the fight. There were none of the usual cheers that go on during Sr's fights. I felt guilty that I was happy that he kept his 0.
JMM/Norwood- jmm was one of the first prospects I followed on local TV. My dad and I were so sure he was ready...he stepped onto HBO and failed pretty miserably. He didn't get beat up but it was just a bad, bad night. I thought he would never get a chance again
Some KO's come to mind:
I thought Pac was dead, I thought Roy was dead.
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Holyfield-Moorer I
Tyson-Douglas
Pac/May
People throwing drinks at Tyson after his last fight
these are sad moments because I realized that it was over for these guys:
i was in denial for a long time about Chavez Sr. so I could list a lot of fights but
Chavez - Tyszu
Chavez - Wise stick out.
Seeing Gatti do that back roll as he tumbled to the ground vs Gomez was sad. IIRC there was some kid sitting ringside who was fighting back tears as Gatti was gettingbeat up- that image about sums it up.
Death of Darren Sutherland...
Watching Juanma lose to Salido twice was painful (although great fights)
Meldrick Taylor losing the fight in the last 2 seconds and the damage done to him....
Jones vs Lebedev thought Roy was really hurt
I'm glad you can admit this. When your world rEVOLves around a fighter and he loses like that, it's got to be tough.
Lmao, you still on that ****? You know you're wrong about that right?
Crawford Ashley vs Ole Klemetsen was a sad spectacle. Ashley came in over confident and under prepared and got his head scrambled. It was a bad knockout, at one point I believe he started to swallow his tongue and if I remember rightly he had to be put on breathing equipment in the ring. His lax attitude coupled with what he ran into really hit me.
https://youtu.be/vy7XU1qjvp8
Finally acknowledging that Holyfield has spent the majority of his career juiced off his tits was a disquieting moment. He'd been somewhat of a hero of mine as a youngster. I'd been teary eyed watching him stumble round like an old man taking a pasting in the first Moorer fight. The second and his win over Tyson were two of my all time favourite bouts.
Joe Loius comes about as close as anyone can get to being my favourite boxer so watching the clip of his head lulling on the ring apron after being clocked by Marciano isn't a pleasant experience but the thing that effected me the most as a fan was Hatton's reaction to defeat and his spiral into depression and self loathing as a consequence of feeling that he'd let us down. He dared to dream and it was one hell of a ride following his career. He did us proud. It saddens me that he won't seem to allow himself to acknowledge that.
Nov 8, 2014....BHop vs Krusher....the look on Hop's face after being dropped in the first round made me worry....as the fight went on those worries turned into legitimate fear!!!...I swear, I've never had that feeling watching a fight....that was without a doubt the worst feeling I've had watching a fight....I think I made a thread on here right after the fight ended....and didn't watch another fight until Khan fought Alexander....I didn't wanna hear or talk about boxing after that fight.....Khan's domination of Devon brought me back to life though
Roy was definitely one of them. I didn't so much mind him losing because I knew it was inevitable but it was just the way he lost and who he lost to, because I absolutely detested Antonio Tarver.
Bigger than that though was that I was a huge JCC fan when I was a kid and first was the draw to Pernell Whitaker. That fight was like a month after my twelfth bday and I considered it like a late gift and he got boxed circles around by Whitaker but it was excusable because I just lied and said I thought he won. I had been hearing FOREVER how he was going to hit Whitaker 'below the tongue' and I just KNEW Chavez was going to win that fight but he barely laid a glove on Sweet Pea. Even worse was just a few months later when he fought Randall and not only did he lose but he got dropped and I full-on CRIED about that.
Later it was watching Barrera getting knocked senseless by Junior Jones because I had found me a new Chavez and definitely watching Richard Grant get destroyed by Crazy James Butler after their fight. I thought that guy was going to die.
probably one of the worst cheap shots ever
Roy was definitely one of them. I didn't so much mind him losing because I knew it was inevitable but it was just the way he lost and who he lost to, because I absolutely detested Antonio Tarver.
Bigger than that though was that I was a huge JCC fan when I was a kid and first was the draw to Pernell Whitaker. That fight was like a month after my twelfth bday and I considered it like a late gift and he got boxed circles around by Whitaker but it was excusable because I just lied and said I thought he won. I had been hearing FOREVER how he was going to hit Whitaker 'below the tongue' and I just KNEW Chavez was going to win that fight but he barely laid a glove on Sweet Pea. Even worse was just a few months later when he fought Randall and not only did he lose but he got dropped and I full-on CRIED about that.
Later it was watching Barrera getting knocked senseless by Junior Jones because I had found me a new Chavez and definitely watching Richard Grant get destroyed by Crazy James Butler after their fight. I thought that guy was going to die.
The best thing ever said before a fight and I would put it tied with "I wanna eat his kids, praise be to allah" as the greatest quote in boxing history.
I agree.....I ordered the lewis/Tyson in high school. was the first ppv I ever purchased with my own money. I knew Tyson was washed up...I actually picked Lewis to win by tko in the 7th round.
I still won a lot of money off the casuals my homies were rooting for Tyson. I just pick who I think wins
"my defense is impregnable, im ferocious, power is impetuous!!!!